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Variety Sugar dragon / Paul Thomson's '8-S

I have only 2 cuttings for sale 10 each if you buy both it will be 17

I will post worldwide with tracking however not responsibility for seizing at customs, as I am not able to provide phytosanitary papers.

postage depends on the weight so if you buy one or both cuttings. (5,5 or 8)

picture is not able to upload will try it again later from home.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inga Vulpina Impostor
« on: November 20, 2018, 04:38:21 AM »
here you have the flowers and fruit forming..

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What rootstock can be used for grumichama?
« on: November 07, 2018, 04:04:12 AM »
thats guava leaves - psidium sp., that for sure is not compatible rootstock for grumi.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Questions about Ice Cream Bean
« on: November 06, 2018, 02:01:08 AM »

Have a photo of the flowers? Are they pink?

sure here you are, i had only one flower stalk...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Questions about Ice Cream Bean
« on: November 05, 2018, 12:15:31 PM »
 it is 4 yrs old, but gowring in 6b zone and cold overwintering..

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Questions about Ice Cream Bean
« on: November 05, 2018, 11:05:19 AM »
I have i. vuplina, first time flowered this year and also have 4 small fruits growing. I will let you know the taste, however I have not tasted any other inga before.
here are the fruitlets.. Also it is growing in 3l pot and max of around 1m tall

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: November 05, 2018, 11:01:14 AM »
Pretty sure it's a female based on flower rack structure.

Do you have the female plant?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: November 01, 2018, 05:51:35 AM »
first flower opened up..

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Jaboticaba escarlate seeds for sale
« on: October 16, 2018, 07:52:52 AM »
I have second crop of these from august so very prolific variety! 

Escarlate fruits have very nice sweet taste with some extra flower tones I cant describe, definately must to grow! Better then the red hybrid.
 1-3 seeds per fruit  and start frutiing in 3-4 years from seed,  could be kept small in pot.. 

Price same 3 per seed and postage 5,50 worldwide with tracking number.

Please send me PM. thanks

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: October 06, 2018, 02:02:01 PM »
Nice job. I am afraid it's a male. Don't kill if someone will have a female and you can share the pollen.

yes i know it will be high probably male. I have 3 more seedlings so hopefully there will be a female.. i think i have two males and two females according to the grow habbit.. both pairs have very different grow habbit.. time will tell 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: October 06, 2018, 11:25:50 AM »
here little update, the leaves are getting more fat wider.. and the flowers still not opened yet.. :)

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Jaboticaba escarlate seeds
« on: September 19, 2018, 05:26:34 AM »
Also have some seed of escarlate to sell, shipping from EU - worldwide 5,50 with tracking.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: eugenia repanda!
« on: September 18, 2018, 06:24:57 AM »
Right now in season, here are first fruits cut, taste very good like sourish sweet cherry. however not that much pulp you would expect the seed is fairly big :)

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: September 11, 2018, 09:14:01 AM »
Mine tastes like pineapple and banana. More sweet than P. edulis.

I got to taste one fruit from my vine, I got seeds from gooner 2-3 years ago from his wild collected fruits. And it does taste like pineapple(less banana) or maybe a virgin pinacolada with little drop of acidity so very nice to eat out of hand! no need to add sugar or honey, but my vines are small so maybe later the sweetness will be higher.. Sorry forgot to take a photo..

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: September 10, 2018, 05:05:56 PM »
thank you, not sure how many europeans do grow these but hopefully there much more so better chances to preserve and save this species! i wish you are right about the second seedling and frmale flower let wait and see..
i do have spidermites problem indoors when i am overwintering my tropical plants.. i still do not know how i will be overwintering these if in cool/cold room or in warm.. as in warm they would need lot of light in cold they might go dormant but could get root rot..

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: September 10, 2018, 02:43:57 PM »
here are more photos of the flower clusters forming, they are still very small.. also the second seedling is starting to form flowers this have a bit purple color, but it might be caused with lower temps.. these two seedlings have same grow habitus the other two seedlings that havent flowered yer are shorter and have more compact growth, also they are already growing side shoots/branches.. so i think this might be a gender difference sign? taller males and compact robust females?

here is the second seedling tiny flower cluster

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are Loquats in Zone 7a possible?
« on: September 07, 2018, 10:12:25 AM »
I live in Northern Va zone 7a, my tree is at 6ft and fruited every year, I do cover it up during the winter.I grafted a Gold Nugget branch to a seedling and it fruited after three years.This picture took back in April when I uncovered it.I also have a dwarf Premier variety in a pot and pushing out flower now in July , not sure how.

Thats sound promising, what is your min winter temp? and what kind of cover did you use?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: September 03, 2018, 02:02:41 AM »
How exciting!  Please post lots of pictures :-)

have only this for now:) will be in garden in 2-3 days so will take more picstures, also by that time they should be more emerged now they were really tiny..

Hard to tell what kind of flowers are coming out.

i think they are going to be on the long stalks like the males on other papaya relatives.. but might be wrong lets wait few days..

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: September 02, 2018, 02:26:01 PM »
1 of my 4 seedlings start to make first flowers, these will be probably male..

here are mines so for they grow quite problemless, but i am worried about the winter and my notoric overwatering..


In winter you should not water them. Keep the land very dry. Leaves will drop and growth will be on hold. It's not because of temperature but light. Mist the plants to take water but that is a little bit tricky inside the home where is very dry. Also a hard water will accumulate salts which will kill the plant.

Are they deciduous also in nature or it is just lack of light? and at what temp should I keep them? I can provide them some artifical light..

Your watering seems to be good.
Daily watering will kill the plants. The soil needs to get dry first then you can water them. In fact never water the carica species 5 in to the trunk when the plants are young.

What condition do you recommend for winter/overwintering? I am +- same zone as you..

thanks, Daniel

I grow banana and chamburo,  and have done a lot of research on vasconcellea. I have seeds from 7 species that I am trying to germinate. Most germinate only in laboratory conditions.
The problem with papayas lies in the root system, once that it's damaged root rot sets in. I have a solution for every problem of papayas in containers but I will not share them as it is my own research and invested years in trial and error.
To have a faster growth you need a deep container like 3 feet. Also your plants show signs of nutrient deficiency. A foliar spray every 10 days will improve the appearance.
There is not much research on palanda. And who wants to go to the forest to pick up the seeds, he must be kidding. That is not a vacation to walk through jungle for 3 hours with snakes and other animals, especially to go there alone.
I know the exact location in case someone is so courageous and I asked many Ecuadorian friends to go to pick up, but they declined my offer. Those who have the plants you better preserve them. The forest where palanda is will be cut in few years so it will become a extinct species soon.

do you have any palanda papaya growing?

Mine are doing well.  3 are about a foot as well, and one seems to be lagging behind at 5" or so.  Germination was very, very sketchy. 


Do you have any update on your plants Scott? I have four plants and there is a little difference.. two have more smalish side leaves in the heel of main leaf and two havent have this feature..
I was wondering if it could be a sign of male/female? so would like to ask if you can see this difference in your seedlings?


Wow! That is very small to be fruiting already. How old is that plant?

Rootstock was I think 1+ year old when grafted so it could be 3+yr old alltogether..

Is that on the graft union?

Nope the graft union is lower about where the first string is...

I think the key is in grafting scions from an adult tree, just as happen with mangoes, litchis and many others fruit trees. The results of sanitarium seem to point is worth grafting this slow trees to save the long waiting of seedlings. Really good news if similar results from other members proves this hypothesis right.  ;)

Could be a sleeping flower bud.. :)

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