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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sil-Matrix on Mango?
« on: March 18, 2019, 03:16:00 PM »
Thanks, Har, I'll have to give it a try.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sil-Matrix on Mango?
« on: March 15, 2019, 05:36:26 PM »
I was just wondering if anyone has tried Sil-Matrix on mango for fungus control.  I saw some on sale (or clearance?) at my local co-op & saw it was listed as a fungicide, miticide, & insecticide.  I didn't have time to look it over too well as I saw it at the check out but I picked it up anyway (2 1/2 gal for $25 sounded like a deal).  I have had time to now check it more & see it is a soluble silica and it is primarily effective against powdery mildew. I was hoping it might also have some activity against anthracnose but that is not claimed on the label.

Has anyone tried this product on mango?  If so, verdict on effectiveness?


I received an order the other day.  All the seeds were extremely well packed and well documented with labeling.  All arrived in good condition and many were starting to germinate.  He even threw in a few extra seeds.  This was possibly the best shipment I have ever received, considering the condition of seeds, care in packing, and good documentation.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good rootstock for Abiu ?.
« on: March 13, 2019, 12:51:01 AM »
If I were looking for another rootstock, I would be inclined to try Pouteria torta -- however, it is probably more uncommon than abiu so probably not a great candidate for most people.  The fruit seems more similar to abiu than most of the common Pouterias so I am guessing it may be a closer relative.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Salacia verrucosa
« on: March 10, 2019, 01:01:27 PM »
I believe he was asking if it is dioecious (male & female flowers on separate plants) not if they tasted good (delicious).

Waikoloa is a nice area for vacationing but not sure that there is much game for fruit hunting.  A lot of the more unusual fruit here does not typically make it to market.  The best bet is probably if you make it over to Hilo side on a trip.  The farmers' market is worth a try, especially if you can make it on a Wed or Sat, the "big" market days.  I've heard some people say that there are some unusual fruits at the Kona market sometimes but I have never seen anything very interesting there the few times I visited it.  Usually nothing very exciting at Kea'au, Honoka'a, or Laupahoehoe markets the times I have visited them either.  I have heard that there is sometimes some interesting fruit at the Maku'u market down by HPP but I have never encountered anything very exciting the times I have been there.  Unfortunately, markets can be hit or miss as most interesting fruit is seasonal.  Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.


I believe that Wirsiy at Forest House did have grains of paradise (A. melegueta) plus a couple of other, unidentified ones.


If you do a search here for Forest House in Cameroon, they used to list a few types.  Some of these can get pretty big & can spread aggressively by a running rhizome so might not be ideal candidates to grow in pots in a greenhouse, if that is your thought.


Citrus General Discussion / Re: First Fruiting of Sanguinelli Blood Orange
« on: February 13, 2019, 04:28:53 PM »
No worries.  I think Cara Cara is supposed to do pretty well here.  I am not a big orange guy, I tend to prefer mandarins but threw in a couple of blood oranges for variety. 


Citrus General Discussion / Re: First Fruiting of Sanguinelli Blood Orange
« on: February 12, 2019, 10:00:32 PM »
You GA guys will have to post some pics when yours bear, I'm sure they will put mine to shame with the pigmentation.  It will be good to see pics of some getting a proper chill to kick off those pigments.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please id this matoa-like fruit
« on: February 08, 2019, 03:24:22 PM »
Do you know if this Dracontomelon costatum is dioecious or monoecious?  Information online is scarce & seems to be conflicting.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Angiopteris evecta
« on: February 05, 2019, 12:04:37 AM »
Angiopteris get HUGE! Unless you have a rather large conservatory/greenhouse, I doubt they would survive outside in St. Augustine

Yeah, I am living where I can plant it outside & I am still debating whether I want to tie up the space with it.  You would need an extremely large greenhouse to attempt one of these under glass.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Angiopteris evecta
« on: February 03, 2019, 12:25:05 AM »
Mule's foot fern, got them growing as invasives on the big island.  A very impressive plant, I keep going back & forth about whether I want to devote the space for one.  They are ferns so I guess you could try to get spores from somewhere.  They come up here as volunteers, near places where they are grown (like the Hawaii Tropical Botanic Garden).


I don't see what's so wrong with using your pictures, provided they are selling plants that actually look like the picture.
Sometimes a seller will use someone else's picture if they had neglected to take a picture when their plants were in flower or had fruit hanging on them. Or sometimes they'll use someone else's picture before they have an opportunity to take their own, for example if the plants are not big enough to produce fruits yet.

Using another seller's pictures can sometimes be one of the signs of a scam, but it is not always necessarily so.
Using someone else's photos is basically stealing.  It is different if you have their permission to use them.  At the VERY LEAST, they should be citing where they got the pics from, giving credit to the owner.

Oops, Rick slipped in before my response ...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dropping in ground Lucís Garcinia
« on: January 28, 2019, 09:20:02 PM »

i have a barrel i can wrap with shade cloth and that should work. maybe i'll try out the cripple one first in the hoop and bring the nicer one out of the shaded area to a partially shaded area closer to where I want to plant it!

I know a lot of people make the barrel out of some type of wire fence like hogwire and then cover it with shadecloth.  A lot of people just leave them on until the plant grows out the top.  I was making a lot of these so I just made a bunch out of the orange plastic fencing you can get a Home Depot (they stuff they had a few years ago worked much better than the current stuff).  I would staple it into a barrel shape with a heavy duty stapler & then staple the shadecloth to the fence material.  I would secure these with 2-4 bamboo stakes (depending upon the size of the barrel).  The bamboo stakes don't last too long in Hilo weather but long enough to harden off the seedlings.

I made hoops with galvanized wire used for bracing for the hogwire fencing.  You can cut it to size appropriate for the seedling & just bend it into a hoop shape.  I'd then tie shadecloth on the hoop to drape down over the seedling & cover it.  If it was a larger seedling, I might also might up a wire spreader(s) to hold the shadecloth off the seedling.  The hoops worked fine and had the benefit that you could lift some of the shadecloth up to harden off the seedling after it was out there a while.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dropping in ground Lucís Garcinia
« on: January 28, 2019, 03:48:56 PM »
I've got mine in full sun & they are doing fine.  No supplemental water here (but I am right outside of Hilo).  I would start them out with shade (I have used both "shade barrels" & "shade hoops" to create shade, using old discarded shade cloth from greenhouses) and gradually ease them into sun.  I would take it slow for the transition (I have heard that Honolulu area can run about 10 deg warmer & I believe a little less humidity) and you probably should use some supplemental watering until they get settled in.

I have put out some plants that were pretty small.  For most, if you give them shade & control the weeds, it is not an issue.  I think the ones I have lost has been due to not watching the weeds well enough.


Citrus General Discussion / First Fruiting of Sanguinelli Blood Orange
« on: January 26, 2019, 07:24:54 PM »
I tried my first fruit of my sanguinelli blood orange today.  My young tree was really too small to be bearing fruit but I let it keep the two fruit it set this year anyway.  The tree is planted at probably 650-700' elevation here just outside of Hilo, HI.  Advice I had seen indicated that only Moro blood orange was worth growing here and that the others would not develop any color at all.  I planted a Moro and a Sanguinelli with low expectations for either developing any real blood pigmentation due to our lack of any real cold snaps here.

I was uncertain about the ripeness of the oranges.  Regular oranges sometimes do not color up well here so I was not sure what to expect from a blood orange.  The orange developed a nice deep orange color with a little rosy blush -- not the exterior color Sanguinelli is noted for but very nice!  I was uncertain about the ripeness of the oranges; I would be gently probing & squeezing to see when they seem to have a little more "give".  When I tried it today, it came off in my hand -- so maybe a bit over-ripe? 

I was amazed when I cut the orange open, it had developed some nice rosy coloration in the flesh as well!  The flavor was mild, low acid, mildly sweet, and juicy.  It was sort of "citrusy" but not a typical orange flavor.  There was another flavor -- maybe peach? -- that seemed more predominant.  If I were blindfolded and someone popped this in my mouth, I would have no clue of what kind of fruit it was.  My wife is not a fan of oranges but we both enjoyed it.  I suspect it will improve significantly in the future.  The fruit had 14 well developed seeds as well as 3 or 4 small aborted ones.  Since I had no other citrus flowering at this time, I have decided to try to grow out the seeds.  With no other citrus blooming, this will be a "selfing" (as plant breeders say) where it will just be juggling around the genes of Sanguinelli so there could be some interesting variants coming out of this.

The bottom line is, if you are in HI or similar tropical areas, do not just dismiss Sanguinelli as unsuited for your orchard.  It might not color up as well as in subtropical areas but you might still be pleasantly surprised.


An interesting (& helpful) paper on pollination in Annonaceae:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sibu: a rare fruit supermarket !
« on: January 18, 2019, 04:11:52 PM »
Did you sample the buah langir?  I have heard it is supposed to be very sweet but have heard no particulars about the flavor or how much flesh there is?  If you could provide any details, it would be appreciated.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pulasan trees flowering . . .
« on: January 06, 2019, 11:32:56 AM »
Congratulations, Doug.  I hope you have a pair in there, you'll have to let us know how it turns out.  I'm happy to hear that two trees in one hole appears to be working out.  I've done the same thing with a number of different species (based on forum members' advice) and none of mine have fused yet but some are approaching this.


Here is an old paper by Swingle on a rarely seen citrus relative:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Giant LauLau experience
« on: December 12, 2018, 02:17:00 PM »
I've never heard glowing reports either.  I think most reports I have seen say it is insipid.  I have one here in Hawaii and it, so far, has been growing slowly.  I am hoping it is nearing the point where it will kick into gear and start to put on some serious growth.  I think it is one of those fruit that are grown for its novelty value, not its flavor.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Another rewarding Borneo fruit trip
« on: December 12, 2018, 02:09:58 PM »
Looks like a great trip.  What areas are you visiting in Borneo on this one?


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