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can anyone tell me what this is ?
lost the tag, but i think it was from a trade, and it was supposed to be either purple forest guava
or, Myrcianthes pungens, but i dont see a "point" at the tips of the leaves ?
i only got 2 fruit so far, and they both went from green, straight to purple, no red coloring.
seeds (only 3 in each fruit) seem to be larger than regular guava, or strawberry guava.
it did have a sweet, very nice flavor.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID's please ?
« on: August 19, 2019, 02:25:06 PM »
lost tags.
i did have E Repanda seeds, and i thought maybe the bottom pics were Repanda
but the leaves are very narrow and long. ??
i have no idea on the rest...

plant 1

plant 1

plant 2 (same species as P1 ?)

plant 3 

plant 4

plant 5 (same species as plant 4?)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / couple of ID's please...
« on: November 13, 2018, 02:41:30 PM »
i have a few seedlings which i have never identified.
any help appreciated.

plant 1


plant 2


plant 3

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pomegranate - can i hard-prune to graft ?
« on: November 13, 2018, 02:35:40 PM »
i have a couple of POM i grew from seed.
1 tree acatually produces rather well, but the seeds are hard,
and while sweet and fairly tasty, the juice-sac is rather small.
the other tree is taller, 12ft + and doesnt produce at all.
both are seedlings from "wonderful" variety.

i have a cutting grown out to about 3ft which i think is Parafinaka.
i am wondering if i can take 2 cuttings from it and graft them to the large tree ?
and how hard can i top-work it ?
it would be nice to cut it back to 3ft or so to graft to

also, should i graft them in Spring ?
and if anyone has a couple of cuttings from a tasty soft-seeded variety, i would appreciate it.

taller POM

fruiting POm

Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID seedling ??
« on: July 19, 2018, 05:49:15 PM »
i have 2 seedlings
old soil and no tags.
can anyone ID them ??

also in the 2nd pic, there has been no new growth in months
and ive added fertilizer, iron, magnesium, and fish emulsion.
not sure what else to do
and the leaves have started curling under.

so we had 21F record breaking cold in New Orleans in January
but, lots of stuff are back from the roots.

here are a few pics.

Cherry of the Rio Grand



purple forest guava, natal plum, pachira glabra

Honey locust


Malva - marshmallow

Pepper -white


Japanese Raisin Tree


Jujube - Sherwood

Lichi tomato

dagga - lions tail


Eugenia Florida

Pachira, Guava, Chaya, natal plum


Indian Jujube

Jabo, strawberries, peppers, edible greens

naranjilla (Lulo) blueberries, myers lemon


sunflower, grumichama

tree tomato

I am in New Orleans
ive actually never eaten a white sapote
though, now i have 3 small trees growing.

I am, for some reason, allergic to bananas and Kiwi.
im not allergic to any other fruit i know of, and ive tasted several subtropicals/tropicals
when i was in Peru, Costa Rica, several trips to Miami, the Keys etc...

Before i get 3 huge trees, it would be nice to know i like the fruit and am not allergic.
as far as liking it, there are very few fruits i dont like. im pretty sure that wont be an issue.
but, still nice to know the flavor.

so where can i get a small amount of fruit shipped to me
and when ??

Tropical Fruit Discussion / a couple of plants back from 20F
« on: May 12, 2018, 03:10:04 PM »
New Orleans had a once in 100yrs record breakinhg cold snap in January this year.

its taken a while to find out what is actually coming back and what is not.

it was so cold, Cattley Guavas died to the ground.

First... what was not affected at all...
Feijoa, CORG, Jujube, mulberry(red-wild), Pakistani Mulberry (grafted)
Loquat, muscadine...
(did not lose 1 leaf from the CORG)

What was not protected, yet, came back anyway....
tropical guavas in ground and in containers (lost 1 small one, at least 10 came back)
sugar cane...
Dwarf Namwah banana.
Myers Lemon (lost medium bracnches, but looking healthy now)
Blood orange (died back to graft)
finger lime from seed... container on driveway, no damage
(the cement driveway, may have kept some plants in containers a few degrees warmer?)

mango -
1 protected, grafted (1yr old) died.
1 in-ground 4yrs old - died.
1 7gal container, 2 yrs, coming back from roots.

white sapot - died to roots, coming back.
Longan - in-ground (1yr) dead.
Baobob (5yr old) dead.
Lychee - 3yrs container... coming back from roots
Parmentiera cereifera (candle tree) - back from roots
West Indian Arrowroot -back from roots
Katuk - lost 2 plants... 1 coming back from roots (planted near house)
plectranthus esculentus (African potato mint) - back from roots, unharmed.
neem (1gal container) back from roots.

1 container, back from roots
one in-ground , back from roots.


Inga in container, not protected, coming back from roots
(unknown cvariety)
Inga in-ground - semi-protected - died back to roots

Indian Jujube 2yr old in container - dead.
Indian Jujube 1yr old, in ground - coming back from roots.


Moringa - in-ground, unprotected.

died back to roots. (lost 1, 1 came back)
i think the reason it did come back, is the roots were intertwined with fig and elaeagnus

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB Schizandra
« on: May 09, 2018, 10:38:02 AM »
Anyone know where i can get a Schizandra ?
i had ordered one from Logges last year.
it was tiny, and i baby-ed it forever
 and it finally kicked the container.

There are a couple of named varieties that will fruit by themselves
otherwise you need a male and female plant.
I am willing to get both if need be.

This is just the right side of my front yard
but i had a Blood Orange, a fig, autumn olive, jabo, Jamun
and several other plants.

in just this front bed, the main plant is the CORG
and i have peanut and strawberries as ground cover around it.
the peanut is a nitrogen fixer.
i had West Indian arrow root behind (North) of the CORG (not to shade it)
it died to the roots, but started coming back also.

In Jan 2018 it hit 20F here
and killed damn near everything, at least to the ground.
the CORG didnt blink...
i think i saw 2 or 3 leaves with slight tip-burn

FEB 2017

MAY 2017

AUG 2017

FEB 2018

early March 2018

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Loquat - when is it ripe ?
« on: April 12, 2018, 12:45:38 PM »
This is the first year my loquat has fruit.
a few of them have split, maybe 10%. i am guessing it got too much water.

the flavor is a bit muted from what i remember them tasting like as a kid.
i think ive only had 2 or 3 in the last 40yrs... LOL.
but, also, some have shriveled up.
Very few have fallen off so far, and most are a yellow to yellow-orange color.
i dont know if they are just not ripening properly ?
if this will get better as the tree matures ? - its 5yrs and a decent size tree already.

 i have 4  trees  total. - 2 have new grafts.
 - 1 tree has a graft from last year that has fruit. (none are ripe enough to taste though.)

large fruit from large tree - not grafted


pics of large - fruiting tree (no grafts)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / hard freeze /arctic blast for New Orleans
« on: January 16, 2018, 10:13:48 AM »
i remember when i was in my early 20s (30yrs ago ish)
we had temps in the low 20s, and there was ice on lake pontchartrain so thick i walked on it.
it stayed in the mid to upper 20s for a couple of days though.

so, i am going out to buy 4 heaters and extension cords.
i piled leaves on things like aloe-vera, and small plants
(i piled leaves on everything actually)
covered things with cardboard etc...

i plan on putting boiling water in a 5 gal bucket for the 2 Jabo in ground.
and probably for the Longan

a heater for the Ingao, baobob, green sapote, and mango.

this is quite depressing.
i may be changing hobbies in spring depending on what comes back.

i did just order a couple of Pawpaw, a Che,  and blueberries.

22F for tonight/early tomorrow

thankfully, temps will be dropping during the night
not reaching 22F till 8am
i can wake around 6 and try to curtail the damage.

should i use a hose and water stuff down at 7am ?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / massive mango on google
« on: December 27, 2017, 04:15:06 PM »
so, sometimes i get sidelined
and have way too much time on my hands
and i poke around places in google maps in street-view...

ive seen several fruit trees before with fruit
but, this one caught my attention
the leaves looked like mango, but, the tree is far away
and the pic isnt that clear

but this is amazing to me
Maybe its normal , but im in New Orleans,
and my history of viewing mango trees with fruit is very limited.

a block over, maybe it was more than 1 tree ??

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Hog/June plum - Spondis cold tolerance ??
« on: December 19, 2017, 03:13:41 PM »
So i was under the impression i could not grow these in New Orleans zone 9

but, i just saw a couple of videos on youtube from Orlando
and Pheonix of people growing these.-
Is one species more tolerant than the others ? which one ?
If i get a late frost will i lose all the fruit ?

I live in New Orleans, so do not have access to top mangos to taste.
outside of Kent, Keitt, Tommy, and Ataulfo, ive only had  a few, and it was years ago.

So i am looking to graft at least 5 different varieties
i would like them to be as spread out as possible
and also high production.
Obviously taste is also important, but season and production is more so.

I also have to worry about availability
if it is a very rare variety, it might be hard to get scions.

Ataulfo, Kent and 1 other will be the rootstocks.
im not sure what the 3rd is, but it might be Florigon ?

largest tree is here

1 more issue
we had a freeze in Jan, and my largest froze back to the roots
(or close)
now i have 5 branches coming up from the ground
One is so long and spindly, it is drooping down to the ground.

So, i am guessing i should graft as low as possible ?
and the characteristics should stay with the scion
(about it being more rigid) correct ?

mango on right...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / double rootstock mango grafting
« on: October 26, 2017, 02:45:33 PM »
guess this is one way to do it.
my grafting skills arnt the best, so i will probably be doing an approach graft
and then grafting a couple of varieties to it later.

does this look like a harder graft then an approach ??

So since we had 1 night that was a pretty hard freeze
and i thought my Katuk plant was dead, i had bought 2 more.
i planted 1 about 15 to 20ft away, and the 3rd around the back of the house.
Had i thought i would get fruit, i might have planted it closer.
i might dig up the 3rd one, and plant it closer...
(its possible the sellers got thier stock from the same original cuttings maybe ??)

How close do i need it for insects to cross pollinate ?

Anyway, i did get 1  lone fruit.
THe large plant must have over 200 flowers on it.
i can imagine if they all fruited ??
At least now i have a few seeds to play with.

The fruit is more like a veg
However i have no idea if i am eating it at peak ripeness ?
as you can see the seed ratio is high
and the "flesh" ( a soft shell really) isnt bad as a veg,
though i might cook or stir-fry it if i get lots of them.

Anyone taste these Ivy Gourd (Coccina Grandis) fruits when red ?
i know the Indian store sells them unripe, like little cucumbers.
but, they arent bad ripe.
fleshy, kinda stringy, but not in a bad way.
kinda sweet and a nice mild flavor.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bioturbation - soil life video
« on: October 08, 2017, 03:55:54 PM »
sorry i couldnt find a youtube video for this
only on facebook
but... a very neat video.

worms and other soil critters are important !!
a deep natural mulch layer can create excellent soil.
rain filters down through it, bringing with it microbes of different kinds and sizes
not to mention free minerals and a waste-stream (bug - poop)
creating the best natural fertilizer...

recently i got some sawdust, bags of leaves
100lb sacks of coffee grounds, and bags of grass clippings.
mixed them up, and used as mulch around the base of my trees.
working excellent so far...

Bioturbation with and without soil fauna

i have several things to trade
or can pay if its not too much.

want improved varieties of Feijoa , Loquat, and citrus
(a good sweet mandarin, also a lime)
i would want at least 3 scions of each.

and also 1 or 2 of a tasty mango.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mamey back from the dead + a leech
« on: September 16, 2017, 05:18:28 PM »
I am in New Orleans
and grew a Mamey from seed about 4 years ago.
it was looking pretty nice last fall.
We had 1 day in January that was colder than normal
and i thought it had bit the dust.
I was waiting to use the container for something else
so, i hadnt removed the dead plant yet.

In the beginning of September, i finally was going to tackle the chore.
and ... WTF ?
it was coming back !

By the way, has anyone ever seen a leech in their yard ?
Is this a vector for disease ?

Leech i found in my backyard


Mamey yesterday

Mamey first week of Sept 2017

Mamey in Nov 2016

My Naranjilla
 (never had the fruit before)

i have several things for trade.

i am looking for cuttings/scions of mango, loquat, longan, starfruit
and other.
or possibly seeds, seedlings of species/varieties i do not have
(whatcha got ?)

i have butterfly (white) ginger  - edible flowers /medicinal
guava seedlings, scions of Mexican cream

Maypop (passiflora incranata)
i love this passionflower... it flowers and fruit when small, and is very easy to grow
(grows wild in places in South Louisiana)
and everbearing dwarf Mulberry cuttings.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Nitrogen fixing plants and fruit trees
« on: August 30, 2017, 03:29:03 PM »
I had a couple of plants, in containers and in ground
that were either sluggish putting on new growth
or, had yellowing leaves.
After giving them some iron and magnesium, worm castings and compost
and only marginal gains, i tried planting several nitrogen fixers near the roots.

My understanding is most N chemical fertilizers wash through the soil quickly.
With a N fixing plant, i think it acts more like a slow-release.
it also does not harm soil bacteria or fungi like chemicals.

ive seen a couple of very nice gains.
I dont like using chemical ferts. I use dry organic on rare occasions in small amounts
and use liquid fish, worm castings, or compost normally.

This seems to be a solution in certain applications for me.
I also think certain species fix N better than others
and some may be better for particular species
maybe bean is better with Plinia and Senna is better with Coffee ?
it would be nice to have a database showing which ones work better for what fruit trees...

cant find a pic, but these leaves were very yellow.

Red Jabo... was chlorotic. Iron and Magnesium had not helped.
compost  gave me only very minimal gains
i planted 3 bean seeds about 10 inches from the trunk
in 2 weeks the leaves greened up nicely
(day was overcast, so pic is yellowish) but leaves are much greener.

Grumichama hadnt pushed growth in several weeks.
4 bean seeds seemed to help.
the 1st pic is with my old camera
 - july

Grumi new growth - today


Coffee - greening up leaves

Jabo - pic is from April - after freeze in Jan killed large branches.
was not putting out new growth at all.

Jabo - today - Nitrogen fixers... 4 beans (3 to 4 weeks)
leaf color slowly coming back , still spotty.

had to move it from backyard to front.
transplant caused some shock and it wouldnt put out new growth
now its holding fruit and growing fine. leaf color is excellent.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Psidium ID (angulatum, Acutangulum ?)
« on: August 27, 2017, 04:56:58 PM »
So i am a bit confused.

if i remember right, i got seeds from here...

and the leaves DO look similar
the problem is, i cant find any authority that can confirm this
often, i search for this plant, and the leaves look just like regular guava leaves.

Once or twice, i found a site showing similar leaves
but the plant was named "Angulatum", not " Acutangulum "

If someone can ID the pics of my plant
at bottom
i would appreciate it

I will leave a few links i found searching
none of which really have helped much...


if you search for Psidium  Acutangulum website snames  Psidium acutangulum

EOL lists acutangulum, but as  Psidium persoonii

Global Biodiversity Information Facility - says this...
Accepted Name:  Psidium acutangulum Mart. ex DC.
Synonym =Psidium persoonii McVaugh

Psidium Angulatum

The  PLant list, lists   Acutangulum , but not Angulatum

as does "The Ferns"

But... Wiki Species lists Angulatum, but not Acutangulum

My plant...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID this plant ? (one more)
« on: July 29, 2017, 04:51:20 PM »
i had thought this might be Psidium
(purple forest guava ) ??
perhaps not?

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