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It is necessary to fixate a bone fracture when the 2 parts donít align properly and when there will be excess motion. If not prolonged healing will occur along with excess bone callous between the parts in an attempt to hold the parts together and fill up the spaces between the parts that has air space between them and not bone to bone. Likewise sometimes while doing Mango grafts our cuts on each side or the curvatures of each part doesnít allow the parts to align or lay on each other perfectly. The grafting clips in the video below can compensate for our grafting weaknesses and for scions or branches that curve up or down or side to side by holding the pieces together where itís crucial.
I was making a list in my head while doing these of all the advantages to using clips and Iíll tell a few that I can think of.
So when you attach these 3/16-5/16Ē scions with budding (Buddy) tape and you are doing it on a very thin new shoot that can easily get pulled off at its base as you pull the buddy tape tight to secure the scion you donít have to do that anymore...pull tight.
Why? Because when you apply the clip it supplies just enough pressure down on the 2 sides to bring them together but not crush them.
Also if your cuts arenít perfect the clip makes up for that.
Since you are using very thin diameter scions being attached to very thin shoots when you make the cut into the shoot deep enough a lot of the time that shoot that has heavy leaves on top becomes structurally unstable but when you attach the scion with buddy tape itís still is unstable but with the clips across the 2 pieces the weakened thinned out portion becomes supported by the ďpatchĒ which is the scion and the ďglueĒ which is the clips.
Also sometimes when you make your entry with your knife into the scion the angle can be a bit too steep so when you attach it to the shoot the top part will not lie flat on the shoot. Here we try to press with our fingers the 2 parts together and twist the tape to make it stronger than tie the pieces together hoping that the pressure from the 2 parts to pop up doesnít happen. But now we just have to put a clip there to hold the parts together. A lot of times youíll have a scion that curves to the right or curves to the left or itís just curves back-and-forth to forward back and even if you cut the scion as perfect as possible when you line everything up you have to like push part of it over. But with the clips you can compensate for that and straighten it out and itíll stick in place. In the video you see 2Ē clothes pins. The branch of the tree curved upwards. This scion really needed to be pulled down on its top and itís base and the center. It was so stiff it would have been worthless to tie it down because nothing could hold it down enough except a clip/clothes pin with lots of constant downward pressure keeping the parts stick together till it heals together just like a fixated bone.
https://youtu.be/CU8y1LuMpBY

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Haas and Haas Carmen
« on: July 20, 2020, 01:18:40 AM »
Can one of you Californians please answer this question. The Haas avocados in Cal can be eaten in November but you leave them on the trees to become better as time passes. If they turn black/brown say Thanksgiving will they stay on the tree till May/June/? Do they stay green on the trees all the ay to May/June?
Thanks

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I wish to inform everyone who has an interest in all the substitutes for the real Haas because you are under the impression that one cannot grow a ďreal HaasĒ in Florida that you now can grow the real Haas even in Miami as my 4 Haas trees have proven. This is a previously patented variety called Haas Carmen. I bought mine in California 6 years ago and they are exactly the same variety you buy in Publix. The name is still under copyright so one can reproduce this tree but cannot sell it using the name Haas Carmen. There is only 1 nursery at this time in Homestead that is reproducing these trees but itís being called a Mexican Haas.  I gave Zill scions so that they can start reproducing this variety themselves.
Hard to believe Iíve got 4 beautiful big healthy Haas trees growing in Kendall with lots and lots of perfect Haas youngins growing and staying clean on the trees right through maturity. I have zero financial interest in any of this.

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I have an important question so I can improve my mango collection. Can you please tell me in your opinion how you would rank the following varieties only by taste and nothing else like fiber and productivity. Only by taste starting with which of the following would be #1 followed by 2 etc. if you havenít tasted any of the ones on this short list please just leave it out.
Sugarloaf
Pineapple Pleasure
Kathy
Orange Sherbet
Lemon Zest
M-4
Sweet Tart
Cotton Candy
Buttercream
Orange Essence
Thank you soooo much your opinions are very respected by me. Rank them purely on taste. Thanks Rich

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Can someone please tell me what to look for to tell when to pick my Rosigold. Thanks

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So we can stop worrying. The big bloom is coming.

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This is a 2 parter. So you have a home on a 1/2 acre corner lot with a pool and around the home you have a mixture of 10 beautiful mango and avocado trees 6-12 feet tall. Will this increase the value of your home?
Part 2. Same home but with close to 300 of the same mango and avocado trees do you think that this would have an effect on your homeís for sale value?

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I currently have Rosigold and Dwarf Hawaiian babies on the trees about the same size and was wondering which will be ready first and when? The Rosiís are a little bit bigger. Thanks. 

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I have a dwarf Hawaiian that has given me fruit this year for the first time and the next week or two I think theyíll be ripening and thatís already going to be the end of May and I have a lot of Rosigold fruit that are probably ready around the same time so Iím thinking that should the Dwarf H taste too Julie like and I donít like it, if I topped the dwarf Hawaiian will there be any problem if I graft say a sweet tart or lemon zest to that dwarf tree?

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Here is the video. It is very entertaining and educational. Enjoy!!!
https://youtu.be/ZacRtEM0F0Q

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Check out its babies on 3/28/19
https://youtu.be/IREa60TIdnk
And itís not related to Haas itís totally vc 801 rootstock from Israel.
The most salt resistant rootstock and tree in existence.
https://youtu.be/XSsy6lZOVIs

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / 262
« on: February 16, 2019, 04:26:39 PM »
I got off the stage due to stage fright

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Maybe you can help me ID an avocado I brought back 5 years ago from Persea nursery just north of San Diego 5 years ago that has since closed.
I brought back 5 Carmenís in 1 hard cover Samsonite suitcase to Miami.  One of them grew 6 Times faster Than the other 4 trees. 2 years ago the tree was about 20 feet tall and loaded with fruit but a hurricane blew them off. Last year zero fruit. This year loaded with fruit and then holy crap around December they started turning black. These were not Carmenís because they were looking like Florida avocados. The last one was picked last week. It was 2 lbs 1 Oz. Average size was about 4-5 ounces less. With smooth black skin. This tree was not a grafted tree because upon examination of the trunk there is no sign of a graft and the diameter at the base of the tree is 4 xís The size of my Carmenís.  It may be a new variety but one of you might actually know what it is. It was tested for dry weight and it was 26%. Thank you for any help.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / 250+
« on: February 13, 2019, 01:20:15 PM »
Stage fright

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Iím
« on: February 09, 2019, 09:30:17 AM »
Off

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / 15 days later my next Zill HP adventure
« on: July 19, 2018, 10:19:06 AM »
This past Friday I went to the mango lectures for the industry at Fairchild. The only one I recognized was Gary Zill and his son. When the last lecturer who spoke about mangoes in Israel was finished they got all the speakers up to the Dias for a panel discussion. The experts were from Israel, S Africa, India US and Egypt. Attendees were from around the world.
Mr Zill walked out and I moved over to his son Marcelli and we spoke. He told me that if I wanted to get Orange Sherbet Fruit I should go up there Wednesday morning. So yesterday I drove the 77 miles to Zillís just to buy Orange Sherbet fruit that I have been hearing about on the forum and had already planted a bunch of these trees. Again when I walked in my hands started to shake because the floor and bins were filled up with Orange Sherbets AND Lemon Zestís which I also have a lot of trees of and have never tasted AND there were 3 Sweet Tarts for the taking although in not pristine condition. Of those 3 varieties I totally loved the size and girth and shape of the Lemon Zest. But thatís a pretty dumb subjective thing to say!
Lastly I was surprised to see a handful of green Lemon Meringues as I thought they matured much earlier.
The giant news is that when I got out of the car Juanna and Marcello were standing outside and I had no intention of buying any trees yesterday but I said hello and asked by any chance if she had any M-4ís and I was floored when she asked how many do you want? Took a few home. So happy so relieved!!!!
Stopped at my daughterís house on the way home to Kendall.
Just tasted my first Sweet Tart that was good and fun. Bought 3 yesterday. Opened 1 yesterday at my daughterís and it was good but nothing special to me. My granddaughterís eyes lit up when she tasted it because she said she loves tart. She only gave it a nine. I tasted the last 2 today. First one was a bit soft on part of it and it was nothing special taste wise. I said what the heck and opened the 3rd pretty firm one with just a bit of yellow on the skin and it was a mango tasting adventure. It was soft inside and tangy and sweet. Very unusual multi-flavored tastes. Was not boring to eat but fun taste wise. 
Then I opened a partially yellowed Lemon Zest which was the first one I ever tasted. My wife tasted the lemon and I did not but it was really a delicious flavored mango. A solid 10.
Somehow I was able to get 3 Lemon Meringues which I thought was an early variety. Havenít tasted them yet. Too green and hard so far. I did taste one or 2 before and those really had that sweet lemony flavor and those were 10ís for me.
Too bad they are liable to get bacterial black spot some day???

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 05, 2018, 05:09:19 AM »
Went to Zillís on Tuesday July 3rd for some trees. Was lucky enough to get Orange Sherbets and Cotton Candyís even though they were only 18-24 inches tall. The adventure was started when I opened the office door. Inside covering the entire floor were 7 gallon plastic pots filled up with gorgeous Harvest Moons, fruit Punch, coconut Cream, Carrie, Fruit Cocktail, Pineapple Pleasure, and more! And what made it so special for me was 2 things. I have planted over 200 mango trees over the last 2 years and all of my choices came from the TFFís comments and yet so many of the varieties I havenít yet even tasted. And here was my opportunity to taste so many. So I took my time picking and choosing each variety and each fruit in each bucket. What made this visit soooo special was that all the while Gary Zill was in this part of the office watching the World Cup and during the big break on TV he spent about 20 minutes with me. The highlight of which was him presenting to me the E-4  which has been named Sugarloaf. And he told me about it and picked it up and cut me a slice. My taste buds exploded and it was a seriously special mango moment. Iím not exaggerating like an ignorant little kid, Iím a 69 year old retired medical professional with 11 grandkids and Iím not being emotional. Sugarloaf stays green. It has no color changes. I think the only way to know when itís ready is by touch. It tasted like the inside of a mango pie that was made with real cream and sugar and was just as pure a taste as possible. And the texture was that smooth too.
Yesterday was the 4th and we had a total of 6 adults at the BBQ. I cut up in paper bowls for a mini mango taste fest, harvest moon, pineapple Pleasure, Sugarloaf, coconut Cream, fruit Punch, Haden, emerald, maybe 2 others.
My daughter and her husband chose Coconut cream as their favorite and the other 4 went ape over Sugarloaf. Mr Zill said he was going to start propagating it even though it has that solid green skin from beginning to end. Yes Sugarloaf will knock your socks off. What a great visit to Zillís and my 20 minutes with Mr Zill and our talks about all areas of the world of mangoes from mango disease to soccer will always be a special memory for me   He is such a nice guy!!!

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I need to pull a bunch of my 1 year old mango trees and replace them with Orange Sherbert and Cotton Candy trees. Which of these varieties would be the least desirable to keep.
Fruit Punch, Venus, Phoenix, Rosigold, Nam Doc, Lemon Zest, Coconut Cream, Juicy Peach, PPK, Orange Essence, spirit of 76, Dearf Hawaiian.
Maybe make me a list of the ones I should pull first?
Please only respond if you have eaten most of the varieties I listed.
Thanks

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Itís like a dream comes true!!
Zill has them in 3 gallon size only but they are only about 12-24 inches tall and very delicate
at the grafted intersection.
They only will sell them to groves because they donít want anyone else reproducing them.
And Zill deserves that respect 100 million percent.
Now weíll get to see if Orange Sherbert really is going to be the unchallenged King of the
United States mango family!!
This is so many years in the making itís just sooo fabulous.

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In the summer of 2019 I will have 7 mango trees that I will let fruit for the first time. (If they decide to)
Please tell me what date should I stop pruning their tips so that they have a chance to fruit naturally. You can assume that all 7 trees will bear their fruit on June 1, 2019 to be safe.
Thanks

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / I need expert mango advice please help
« on: May 17, 2018, 06:21:19 PM »
I have 2 Cotton Candy mango trees that were 3 gallon plants before they went into the ground about 1 year ago and they have that yellowish sickly color and when they produce leaves they get black blotches on the edges and everywhere else. For many months theyíve gotten special care with regular fertigation and terrific micro nutrients. I have 2 gorgeous vigorous Fruit Punch trees in 3 gallon pots and a nice healthy 1 gallon Sweet Tart in reserve that I can replace the Candy Cottons with.
Hereís the questions:
Should I pull the Candyís out and replace them with the 2 Fruit ouches or 1 Fruit Punch and 1 Little Sweet Tart or should I wait for the sickly Candy Cottons to come around?
Today I had a similar situation with 2 Sweet Tarts and a Juicy Peach but I had those varieties for replacements. I wish I could get my hands on 2 more Candy Cottons but it seems the supply everywhere starting with Zill will be gone for quite awhile.
So what do you think I should do? Are fruit Punch as highly ranked as Cotton Candy?
I have never tasted either one.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Overwatering a very young mango tree
« on: March 21, 2018, 12:22:23 AM »
Does anybody know for sure how overwatering or a poorly
drained hole will affect the leaves on a newly planted mango tree?

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Enjoy this tremendous information. Itís a 48 page document telling and demonstrating all disease and pests etc.

http://midh.gov.in/technology/IPM-Mango-Revised-Sept2011.pdf

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