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For sale: 1x Che (Maclura tricuspidata) grafted plant. Cultivar: Seedless. Roostock: Che seedling. Current height: 40cm

Cost is 22€ or $26 plus postage to be calculated based on destination.

An exciting new introduction of recent years, I would really recommend this species because it has no known diseases or pests in Europe. It is hardy to -25°C. The taste is similar to watermelon and cotton-candy. This cultivar is self-fertile and seedless. It is precocious (at only 3 years old they will start to fruit) while at 8 years old they can give up to 180kg fruit in a season. Choose a sunny location and plan space of 3 x 4 metres.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Feijoa - Back with a vengeance
« on: December 15, 2020, 07:25:05 AM »

Probably one of the more popular restorations in recent taxonomy...

As for Acca (Dacca) it's TNT - Dynamite for its most famous member, but not quite Highway to Hell just yet since there is still Acca macrostema & lanuginosa.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Wanted: Dwarf #8 Loquat seeds
« on: September 29, 2020, 10:32:43 AM »
As some of you may know, the mother tree of Dwarf #8 loquat unfortunately perished in the recent hurricane. So I am reaching out to loquat collectors who purchased budwood of this and could supply me with 10-20 seeds in the future. Or if someone still has seeds from this year, they might be viable as loquat seeds are said to be good for at least six months.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Early Red Loquat
« on: September 29, 2020, 05:16:26 AM »
Early Red Loquat is a cultivar of loquat that was bred over a century ago by Taft in Orange California. It apparently had fruit ripening in late January or early February. However that is not the full season I don’t think, because I found a nursery in Orange, CA that says the fruiting window is Feb to April. I'd like to know if anyone is still growing this heirloom and what the fruiting season is for you.

Edit: Sorry guys, I can't find the nursery anymore. I was browsing this a few days ago, perhaps I falsely remembered GA as CA... Willis Orchards has it.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Grapevine in shade
« on: August 02, 2020, 12:35:17 AM »
Is it possible to ripen grapes if the bunches are in the shade and just the leaves are getting sun from above? I have a narrow area blocked off from morning and afternoon sun. So just sunlight from above would hit the overhead trellis. But it would still be a good number of hours.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Black Limes Platter
« on: July 20, 2020, 08:03:16 AM »
Been experimenting with black limes and would highly recommend this method of storage, especially for those in cold climates where the season is short. They have an amazing ability to rehydrate and pass on a complex lime flavor to any soup or stew. I am yet to try the famous black lime tea or sour drink, but will give it a go.

Viable seeds wanted.
Katy, Goldkist and hybrid of two if this should be available.
PM me please.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID help
« on: June 01, 2020, 12:19:32 PM »
Appreciate knowing even just the genus of this.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / French translator required
« on: June 01, 2020, 12:01:47 AM »
If there is anyone fluent in French who would like to volunteer a little translation, I am interested to know the characteristics of Eugenia michelii as described here: It is number 27. Pretty much just interested to know what the fruit are like, and how to differentiate from E. uniflora.

Update: Thanks to the person who PM'd me a transcription, which I was able to use in Google Translate. It reads "The fruit is a globose berry, slightly torose or with rounded sides, red in its maturity, crowned by the calyx, and which contains, under a soft flesh, slightly acerbic and refreshing. a globular and monosperm nucleus."

It seems to be the same as E. uniflora. The name is invalid, even though it may show as valid in some databases.


Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Budwood wanted for EU: Morus cv's
« on: January 17, 2020, 05:41:03 AM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / White kwai muk (Artocarpus hypargyreus)
« on: December 26, 2019, 04:11:30 AM »
Ok... push came to shove...

This is a wild specimen growing in Hong Kong. Note the long peduncles and tomentose abaxial leaf side.

Ostensibly, no one has this species in cultivation yet. Will be interesting to see if mods leave two threads with same binomial now.  ;D

Citrus General Discussion / Was this bud graft from last year successful?
« on: November 26, 2019, 11:32:02 PM »
Last year I attempted a bud graft of an orange cultivar onto a grapefruit tree. The reason I did this is because the branching higher up is weak, leaning, and just a matter of time till snapping.
Unfortunately, I had to go overseas for a year, and just now have inspected the graft. I did the large rectangular piece for a grafting lower down on tree. Nothing ever shooted, but it still appears to be green and alive. If I were to prune all the growth above the bud, would it start to push growth from the bud? Though it is heating up for summer in Australia, this new growth would be in the shade due to other branches on my multigraft tree.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Seeds from Brazil: Sold out
« on: November 07, 2019, 08:18:31 PM »
Pouteria butyrocarpa (Butter sapote, Cupã) - $5 per seed (Minimum 5 seeds)
This black swan of the Pouteria world has reemerged from the shadows in a big way. No longer is it just fodder for famished loggers and lumberjacks. The meat is reminiscent of lucuma, medjool dates or cream sprinkled with chocolate powder. Can be eaten at moist stage, or later dry stage caused by natural fermentation which enhances quality. Large and ornamental tree, but could be disciplined on to a rootstock of other Pouteria I think. Adaptable to subtropics.

Pouteria torta subsp. torta (Cerrado Abiu, Grão de galo, Abiurana, Abiu piloso, Guapeva) - $4 per seed (Minimum 5 seeds)
This is one for those truanting outside the tropics. You want something like abiu, but are simply too cool for temperature school. Well this is the consolation. Fast growing, drought tolerant, allegedly withstands -3°C. Large tree with twisted/tortured trunk, hence the name torta (you thought it meant tart/pudding, didn't you?). Helton's legendary palate registers a comparison to condensed milk, so, do you want this 'milkshake' to bring all the boys to the yard?

Hancornia speciosa var. pubescens (Cerrado mangaba) - $5 per seed (Minimum 5 seeds)
The great thing about this cerrado variety of mangaba is that it makes a smaller bush and is more cold tolerant. But I'm not going to lie; raising these is like getting pandas to breed in captivity. Tree grows in soil of poor fertility, so that needs to be mimicked. Try cactus mix. Very sensitive to phytophthora, phosphorous, cow manure and excess water.  Can handle down to -3°C. The fruit are tasty and healthy. If your better half is wasting space on barren and cliche frangipanis, cut a deal by offering to plant this instead (it is closely related).

Plinia nana (Jaboticaba-peba, Crawling jaboticaba, Dwarf jaboticaba) - $4 per seed (Minimum 5 seeds)
Beware the cerrado curse. It hails from the sandy-soil terrains between Minas Gerais and Goiás. Very drought tolerant once established, and will send out runners (vegetative reproduction). Good tasting fruit. Hardy to -3°C... no I'm still not going to convert that to Fahrenheit.

Plinia spp. (different varieties) - $5 per seed (Minimum 5 seeds per variety)
Four types available: Caipirinha, Peluda jequitinhonha, Rajada and Olho de boi Tatuí. I used to be quite agnostic about Plinia, having not been impressed by Sabara. But then I saw her taste - now I'm a believer. Without a trace element of doubt in my mound. Evergreen, productive, shade tolerant, can take some frosts.

0-500 grams                                     501-1000 grams                                     
Regular: $43                                     Regular: $50                           
EMS: $60                                          EMS: $65

Seeds sent in vermiculite. Thanks to all those who inquired, but sold out pretty quick. Might be second round offers later.

Please PM me if you have seeds of Albert's Pride, Bubblegum, Albert's Supreme. If pollination parent also known, even better.

Does anyone know of a good nursery, or fruit society or even individual collector in Athens, Greece? I am especially interested in cultivars of avocado, mango, capulin cherry and white sapote. thx

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tarap vs Marang
« on: October 19, 2019, 12:17:53 PM »
Starting to get get dizzy with all the similar sounding, unrelated fruits. Marang, maprang, mangaba, mangosteen, mango. Quite confusing, would be good if there could be some kind of resolution on this...

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Wanted in Europe: Rare avocado budwood
« on: September 05, 2019, 09:33:54 AM »
Especially scionwood of Jan Boyce, Oro Negro, Malama, Gem, Miguel, Jimenez 2 and Carmen.

PM me.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / ID please
« on: August 26, 2019, 06:57:48 PM »

Mikado sounds Japanese, but I don't know about this cultivar. The fruit these seeds were harvested from came from Spain. Tasted pretty good for store-bought fruit. What struck me was the size of the fruit... 100 grams each! The shape is also unique, has an elongated beak similar to mango.

€2.70 or $3 per seed. Minimum order 7 seeds. Postage calculated per user.

Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / [EU] Asimina triloba Pawpaw
« on: May 21, 2019, 05:48:05 AM »


Just wondering if any local planeteers of the San Gabriel / San Bernadino region wanted to go on the hunt for a variety of Ribes divaricatum said to be extinct, however I think it's too soon to give up just yet. I am talking about the var. parishii, which has pink/red petals and so is simple to ID. The other varieties should not even be growing near this locality, but in any case I have included the key below. If plants are still there, they should be in flower now. Obviously remember the location if you should find some survivors, so seeds can be harvested in a few months time. I think it would be a very valuable find, as this variety would be much more adaptable to warmer climes. Regards

Here is a key to the subspecies  (Sinnott, Q.,  1985, Rhodora 87(850):189-286)

A.      Filaments 3.5-4.7 (5) mm long; petals 1.2-1.8 mm long, white; style 5.5-7.5 mm long; coast ranges of southern Oregon southward to Santa Barbara Co., CA ……var. pubiflorum

AA. Filaments more than 5 mm long; petals 2-3 mm long, white or red-pink; style 8 – 11 mm long

B. Calyx tube 1.7-2.7 mm long; petals white; coastal areas from Queen Charlotte Islands southward to southern Oregon    ………………………………..var. divaricatum

B. Calyx tube 2.8-3.5 mm long; petals pink or red; foothills of the San Gabriel and San Bernadino Mt. Southern California ………………………………….var. parishii

Very limited seeds, exclusively for people in Europe, Africa and Asia. These arrived to me today in vermiculite. Minimum order 4 seeds total. Send me PM and no need to post on this thread "PM sent".

Myrciaria aff. guaquiea "Purple guaquica": New discovery from Bahia with limited info. Most probably a separate species. Similar to yellow-fruited M. guaquiea (best taste in genus) but blue/purple fruit and smaller tree. Sold out

Plinia edulis (Cambuca): Jaboticaba-relative growing in popularity. Some say the taste is similar to papaya-mango-apricot. Berries are 3-6cm in diameter, with pulp recovery of 50%. Self-fertile (but increased production if cross pollination). Tree is densely foliated, ornamental, evergreen and though can grow 5-10m in cultivation is easy to maintain smaller due to its slow-growth and graft compatibility with Plinia cauliflora/jabotiaba. Cold-hardy down to -4 Celsius. Likes a lot of water. sold out

Alibertia sorbilis (Borojoa, Giant Marmalade Fruit): Similar to Aliberia edulis (Marmalade Fruit) but has jumbo (7cm) fruit with a more protective peel. Has a similar mass, consistency and flavor to tamarind (Tamarindus indica), although a little more sweet. The plant is a small, dioecious tree with leaves measuring 25-45 cm long by 15-20 cm wide. The pulp of the fruits is tasty out of hand, and also used in the preparation of juices, jellies and in savory dishes. Plant in full sun, in tropical or subtropical climates without frost. Adaptable to different types of soils, enjoying a certain humidity in them. It begins early fruiting. Family: Rubiaceae. sold out

Psidium acidum (Pear Araza, Araçá-pera, guayaba de monte, sacha guayaba): Globose or pyriform fruit 8 cm in diameter, weighing up to 240 g. Much superior in flavor to regular guava. The seeds are large, much larger than those of guava (Psidium guajava) and less numerous, therefore easier to extract. Juicy and fleshy, acidic pulp. Consumed mainly in the form of delicious juices, creams and ice creams, which refer to the flavor of the European pear (Pyrus communis). It is a 3-7 m tall tree, with new quadrangulated branches and light green foliage. The leaves are printed and curled at the edges, lending an elegant look to the plant. It can be used successfully in landscaping small spaces. Adapts well to all types of soil. Starts production between three and four years. sold out

Postage and handling to Europe is $9. To Africa and Asia $14

I am looking to collaborate with someone who has a Small Seed Lot Permit and can receive about 20-30 seeds of Asimina triloba from Ukraine. You will be required to post onwards to an address in Minnesota. The seeds are of the cultivar "Dezertnaya". You can order seeds yourself through their webshop, or I will pay them and leave your address. All expenses covered.
This is just a one-off thing. Please PM for more.

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