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Mikado sounds Japanese, but I don't know about this cultivar. The fruit these seeds were harvested from came from Spain. Tasted pretty good for store-bought fruit. What struck me was the size of the fruit... 100 grams each! The shape is also unique, has an elongated beak similar to mango.

€2.70 or $3 per seed. Minimum order 7 seeds. Postage calculated per user.

Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / [EU] Asimina triloba Pawpaw
« on: May 21, 2019, 05:48:05 AM »


Just wondering if any local planeteers of the San Gabriel / San Bernadino region wanted to go on the hunt for a variety of Ribes divaricatum said to be extinct, however I think it's too soon to give up just yet. I am talking about the var. parishii, which has pink/red petals and so is simple to ID. The other varieties should not even be growing near this locality, but in any case I have included the key below. If plants are still there, they should be in flower now. Obviously remember the location if you should find some survivors, so seeds can be harvested in a few months time. I think it would be a very valuable find, as this variety would be much more adaptable to warmer climes. Regards

Here is a key to the subspecies  (Sinnott, Q.,  1985, Rhodora 87(850):189-286)

A.      Filaments 3.5-4.7 (5) mm long; petals 1.2-1.8 mm long, white; style 5.5-7.5 mm long; coast ranges of southern Oregon southward to Santa Barbara Co., CA ……var. pubiflorum

AA. Filaments more than 5 mm long; petals 2-3 mm long, white or red-pink; style 8 – 11 mm long

B. Calyx tube 1.7-2.7 mm long; petals white; coastal areas from Queen Charlotte Islands southward to southern Oregon    ………………………………..var. divaricatum

B. Calyx tube 2.8-3.5 mm long; petals pink or red; foothills of the San Gabriel and San Bernadino Mt. Southern California ………………………………….var. parishii

Very limited seeds, exclusively for people in Europe, Africa and Asia. These arrived to me today in vermiculite. Minimum order 4 seeds total. Send me PM and no need to post on this thread "PM sent".

Myrciaria aff. guaquiea "Purple guaquica": New discovery from Bahia with limited info. Most probably a separate species. Similar to yellow-fruited M. guaquiea (best taste in genus) but blue/purple fruit and smaller tree. Sold out

Plinia edulis (Cambuca): Jaboticaba-relative growing in popularity. Some say the taste is similar to papaya-mango-apricot. Berries are 3-6cm in diameter, with pulp recovery of 50%. Self-fertile (but increased production if cross pollination). Tree is densely foliated, ornamental, evergreen and though can grow 5-10m in cultivation is easy to maintain smaller due to its slow-growth and graft compatibility with Plinia cauliflora/jabotiaba. Cold-hardy down to -4 Celsius. Likes a lot of water. sold out

Alibertia sorbilis (Borojoa, Giant Marmalade Fruit): Similar to Aliberia edulis (Marmalade Fruit) but has jumbo (7cm) fruit with a more protective peel. Has a similar mass, consistency and flavor to tamarind (Tamarindus indica), although a little more sweet. The plant is a small, dioecious tree with leaves measuring 25-45 cm long by 15-20 cm wide. The pulp of the fruits is tasty out of hand, and also used in the preparation of juices, jellies and in savory dishes. Plant in full sun, in tropical or subtropical climates without frost. Adaptable to different types of soils, enjoying a certain humidity in them. It begins early fruiting. Family: Rubiaceae. sold out

Psidium acidum (Pear Araza, Araηα-pera, guayaba de monte, sacha guayaba): Globose or pyriform fruit 8 cm in diameter, weighing up to 240 g. Much superior in flavor to regular guava. The seeds are large, much larger than those of guava (Psidium guajava) and less numerous, therefore easier to extract. Juicy and fleshy, acidic pulp. Consumed mainly in the form of delicious juices, creams and ice creams, which refer to the flavor of the European pear (Pyrus communis). It is a 3-7 m tall tree, with new quadrangulated branches and light green foliage. The leaves are printed and curled at the edges, lending an elegant look to the plant. It can be used successfully in landscaping small spaces. Adapts well to all types of soil. Starts production between three and four years. sold out

Postage and handling to Europe is $9. To Africa and Asia $14

I am looking to collaborate with someone who has a Small Seed Lot Permit and can receive about 20-30 seeds of Asimina triloba from Ukraine. You will be required to post onwards to an address in Minnesota. The seeds are of the cultivar "Dezertnaya". You can order seeds yourself through their webshop, or I will pay them and leave your address. All expenses covered.
This is just a one-off thing. Please PM for more.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Apricot disease
« on: December 21, 2018, 01:47:14 AM »
Didn't have this skin diseases on apricots last year. Variety is Bulida, but other varieties grafted on got it too.
Internally, fruit do not seem changed. But many apricots small and shriveled.

Citrus General Discussion / Replacement for Tahitian Lime
« on: October 17, 2018, 08:51:21 PM »
I believe Tahiti(an) lime is a cultivar of what is known as Persian lime internationally.
Basically, I want a lime that has these properties in order of priority
  • more vigorous (so grafts grow strongly on Eureka lemon tree)
  • is seedless
  • has fruit that is more visually distinct from lemon (Tahitian turns yellow and is similar in shape)

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Grafting Actinida / kiwifruit
« on: October 15, 2018, 09:43:10 AM »
I am a fairly skilled grafter but have had no luck with Actinidia. It obviously works because I purchased grafted varieties in pots, however I don't think it works when you are grafting onto a mature plant. I think a multi-varietal vine doesn't work. My grafts would take, then push out minimal growth and die. The thing is, I wanted to keep the original main growth. Maybe should have grafted at a more terminal location?

Another thing, I have wanted to graft A. arguta onto A. deliciosa. Is this even remotely possible that they co-exist with similar vigor on the same vine?

I would like to buy 10 seeds of the sort Pennsylvania Gold. Sent to Minnesota. Although there are apparently different strains of PE-Gold, I am not picky about which one you have.

Granted, the genera are allied, but this is still kinda funky how similar the two plants are in the photo.
There is kinda only one characteristic that separates these two species at this stage of growth...

According to
"Most Japanese pear varieties are dwarfed about 50% on P. communis rootstock"
and "[Nijisseiki/20th Century] should not be grown on P. Communis rootstock because it is badly dwarfed."

My question is whether there is a Nashi that is minimally affected by P. communis roostock. I want to graft onto a Josephine de Malines espalier. If that works, then the next year I guess I could do Nijisseiki on top of that, because the interstem should no longer dwarf it.
My last contingency would be to use a Chinese White Pear like Ya Li for an interstem, but they are bland from the description I've read.

Has anyone done this experiment? Regular pears normally sink, whereas apples float.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / New species: Pouteria tennisballi
« on: April 01, 2018, 05:05:34 AM »
Recently discovered in the Amazon region of Brazil.
Grows on clay or lawn.
Can be used dehydrated or deuced.
I will be able to Fedex seeds in future.

Looking at quantity of 15-20. Need them sent to Europe. Obviously a longshot in subzero temps (and that's fahrenheit too) but will be fun experiment.

The suckering is so annoying with this species. But I've noticed there are a lot of cultivars that people have bred in Europe and North America now.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best tree for shallow soil?
« on: September 12, 2017, 01:34:16 AM »
We're talking 6 inches before hard rock. Though I can build a mound of perhaps a foot. Total 18 inches.
My options are:
- avocado (grown from seed)
- biriba (dwarfed on A. montana rootstock)
- asimina triloba

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Seeds available: Plinia spp.
« on: June 15, 2017, 02:17:15 AM »

Sorry don't know variety names.
The durian was a commercial variety from Malaysia and the jakfruit came from Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia, very little rag.
All seeds $3
PM for postage.
Durian and jakfruit seeds are recalcitrant so people may want to look at express post.

Hi all.
Would like to graft over a Pyrus calleryana (Chinese Pear) with species like Amelanchier alnifolia, Crataegus schraderiana/azarolus or Sorbus aucuparia/domestica.
Which of these will work?
Is there an interstem that could potentially make all these grafts compatible with Pyrus rootstock?


Minimum order of 8 seeds. Price is $2 per seed. Postage and handling is $10.

Seeking a cultivar of Imbe called 'Cile'. Plenty of them present in California.

I also want seedless lychee but quarantine forbids any scions are sent to me, so I'll have to grow from seed.

Thank you for understanding.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Selling seeds: Self-fertile cherimoya
« on: January 28, 2017, 07:37:56 PM »
Very high-yielding, no hand-pollination required. Classic cherimoya flavor. 'Forbidden Fruits' variety.

$2 per seed, minimum order 10 seeds. No charge for delivery.

Australians pay as though $AUS, everyone else $US.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Eugenia phylogeny/taxonomy
« on: September 04, 2016, 03:06:26 AM »
A paper was done on this in 2014 by Fiorella Fernanda Mazine, Vinicius Castro Souza, Marcos Sobral, Fιlix Forest & Eve Lucas in KEW BULLETIN (2014) 69: 9497
DOI 10.1007/S12225-014-9497-X
A preliminary phylogenetic analysis of Eugenia (Myrtaceae: Myrteae),with a focus on Neotropical species.

I've put the phylogenetic trees below. They don't include some major species like candolleana, luschnathania and selloi. Probably the most interesting finding is that uniflora and pitanga are in the same clade as brasiliensis.

Unable to find any data on roughly how many chill hours this species needs for proper flowering and fruiting.

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