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Tropical Fruit Discussion / plucking sapodillas
« on: September 16, 2018, 03:25:32 AM »
My sapodillas have been picked and plucked by lots of different friends in the last few weeks.People bring their own pickers and it is the thai plastic bucket such as the one in the photo from 10 minutes ago that I favour.

Citrus General Discussion / Citrus at the supermarket
« on: September 15, 2018, 09:20:52 PM »

I went to the supermarket this morning and noticed how the citrus is laid out. My local supermarket has around 15 to 25 varieties at any one time all laid out in neat rows. They change around varieties regularly. It is totally different from the haphazard nature of the local markets.It would be interesting to see what citrus is on offer in supermarkets in various places.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Starapples in the park
« on: September 08, 2018, 10:15:56 PM »
Went fruit foraging with my brother this morning and spotted a few trees in public areas.

Found a few odds and ends but lots or Garcinia sp. and Durio sp. are in flower now.
A large purple type of starapple was found and they are very nice to eat.

It is what's inside that counts and these proved to be very good.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Really Good Flavicarpa Passionfruit
« on: August 26, 2018, 01:51:39 AM »
The names given to Passiflora edulis flavicarpa locally are a bit unusual. They are given names from other places even if they have been selected crossed and bred for decades. Panamas are local types that come in yellow and red/purple forms and it has become a bi word for extra sweet types with almost no acidity. ones that are not yellow had some standard edulis crossed in at some stage in the past. Panamas are a group rather than a single variety these days such has been the crossing in back yards. African yellows are very sweet and musky. is a large and very sweet new variety bred from Panama red. Lilikoi seems as a term seems to be more and more referring to sour yellow flavicarpas not just Hawaiian in origin.
While edulis has had over 100 years of selection and breeding with several southern Australian types claimed to be worlds best the richness and complexity of taste and very low acidity seems to have many flavicarpas way ahead of any edulis in the desirability stakes.
This week I tried a red flavicarpa selection from Cooktown that was rather like a 3 sided pyramid in shape and I was advised that a private grower spent 30 years selecting and crossing to get this line. The one I sampled was fantastic being sweet and richly flavoured. My prized red flavicarpa is the offspring of the best tasting flavicarpa I could find after trying 100s of fruit.My standard panama pales by comparison.

Below is my one that I ate today and possibly is the last fruit of the crop.I just cant pick which is better but they do taste disinctively different and are the 2 best passionfruit I ever tried.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / What is this canistel like fruit?
« on: August 25, 2018, 01:53:22 AM »

The tree was quite clearly distinctive from its canistel neighbour being more compact, with narrower and furrowed leaves and larger flowers.The yellow fruit were very hard still with no sign of ripeness.
Any ideas?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mid Winter Jaboticaba Flowering
« on: July 07, 2018, 06:55:05 PM »
My jaboticabas flower and fruit more in Summer and those old enough to fruit seem to have several crops a year. Scarlet fruits almost continually but not heavily for each fruiting flush. I will show pics of 3 sabaras, a grimal and a red hybrid.

This sabara just has a light flowering

This sabara has a heavy flowering flush.

The flowers are festooned on the sabara here.

The grimal has buds for flowers.

The red hybrid has flowers and small fruit.

I thought I would share a few pics from a visit to a farm a couple of weeks ago.

Pedalai have nice fruit like a giant rambutan and are like a marang inside but the trees get big very big.

This young but fruiting pedalai is getting some width and is ready to rocket up. They get very tall and are hard to train.

Keledangs can be maintained as productive tress at 2-3m tall.

Here is a row on a trellis.

Juicy pearls are small trees and can be kept below 2m.

This hard pruned row is being trained and the first flushed already have flowers and fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Kepels and a walk in the park
« on: July 01, 2018, 06:50:09 AM »
I had 2 kepel trees that I planted too close to the house once and so were chopped down. They were more vigorous than expected and many still have the experience of them being slow growing. My ones just began fruiting when they volunteered for mulch patrol. Two large trees in a nearby park are fruiting and here is a closer look. They aren't too bad really. The taste is hard to describe a bit like fruity caramel and perhaps closest to sapodilla but denser, smoother and not as sweet. Big ones have 4 seeds and are a bit over 150g.

The flesh yield is perhaps around 35%.

The trees are very attractive with colourful new growth like the finest Theobromas.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / A very good Rollinia
« on: July 01, 2018, 06:25:47 AM »
Annona mucosa doesn't seem to be catching on in the marketplace or on the farm with Rollinia deliciosa being the identity of preference. Surely people don't prefer delicious over mucous. Anyway in Australia they have been popular for a long time and each farm that grows them seems to have a few preferred selections. Inside they vary a bit in how firm they are, how seedy they are, how mucousy they are and the taste varies a little as well. Some are a little sweeter at the same stage of ripeness and some have a more pronounced lemony tang. They vary quite dramatically on the outside ranging from completely smooth to like sputniks and the segment size vary a good deal as well.

The commercial selections are the firmer and better tasting types which are more productive on smaller trees. I sure have eaten plenty of them before and last week I tried one of the best with a rich lemony taste and firm flesh. This selection reaches 4kg and is very productive.

It may look green but this is the stage I like to eat them at.

In Australia the standard soursops are labelled as Cuban Fibreless or don't have labels. Cuban Fibreless is an old Cuban variety and perhaps should be called Cuban Fiber as it is fibrous with cotton wool like flesh, perhaps a little too much sourness and plenty of seeds. The other un-named Australian selections are fairly similar.

I currently have a fruiting Arusha (thanks Soren) and a fruiting Lisa from Recife (thanks Mangaba). My Whitman's Fiberless originally from Coconuts tree and Morado (the giant type) are yet to fruit. Last week I also  saw the golden soursop which some people are fussing about and ate some Whitman Fiberless seedling fruit that came via Whitman to Kamerunga research station and a heavier producing seedling of this tree was grafted.

So how would I rate the ones I have eaten?
Cuban Fiberless is poor being too fibrous and not sweet enough.It is hard to consume large amounts.
Lisa/Recife is good being sweeter and less fibrous than Cuban fibreless and it also has a richer ore pleasant taste nd they are productive,
Arusha is very good much like Lisa but a little better with a slight pineapple taste present.

Whitman seedling via Kamerunga is very good and the lack of fiber makes it appealing. The taste is very good but maybe Arusha shades it in that department.
Whitman (Coconut) reported to be very good on this forum and when my seedling fruits I will be able to give an account.
Golden Soursop is striking in appearance and reported to be of very good quality but I cant as yet give a personal account.

At 14 feet up the flying foxes gave their seal of approval to this Arusha soursop.

The Whitman via Kamerung doesn't look fancy on the outside.

That handsome paw is behind a young golden soursop which is canary yellow in 'life'.

Some of you may have noticed a fruit that stevo posted pics of a few weeks ago. It was Pangium edule which the literature is ambivalent about the eating qualities and whether the consumer experiences ill effects. I also acquired some when stevo did and ate the fruit with trepidation at first and with gusto later on. I asked about the fruit by enquiring with seasoned fruit campaigners who did not give glowing reports of the taste and warned it might make me sick.
I found it had a soft mango like quality with pineapple and papaya elements and was one of the best tropical fruits. I suffered no ill effects after eating large volumes and was told by the grower that this large fruited Mariana Islands variety did not have the cyanide of other types.
As luck would have it the grower dropped a large hard unripe fruit and an over-ripe one for seeds to me today.

Here is the unripe one looking like the biggest mamey sapote or capuassu in the world.

Here is the soft over ripe fruit that I will cut open.

Yes it is too far gone to eat but is a bit like capuassu still..

The structure inside is not unlike some Annonas. Stay tuned for the grand opening of the currently unripe one.


A few trees in my yard have volunteered for mulch patrol and left me with space for new trees. I seem to have lots of choices for the few spots I have. I want to plant either paulista,z4 or coronata restingia jaboticaba but am not sure which is best. I want to plant an Annona maybe a big orange or red sugar apple, soncoya or if Duguetias are small enough and have good enough fruit one of those. I have a choice of good chempadaks and maybe one of those.
A chum who grows fruit and who is going away to a cooler climate has offered some plants that I can have. Amongst his impressive collection is Chysophyllum imperial as in the picture above and Alphonsea maingayi. I am concerned that I am too warm for C.imperiale ,its fruit are not that good, they get too big and they have a long juvenile period. I don't know much about Alphonsea maingayi and my main concern is tree size and that it isn't monoeicious.Can anyone advise on this?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bruno is a good Canistel
« on: June 15, 2018, 08:13:14 PM »

I have eaten some very ordinary canistels before and often they are the ones that look best on the outside. Those with moist flesh all the way to the skin, have bright orange/yellow flesh and have a pleasant rich fruity (not dry sweet potato) taste suit me. There is a big difference between good and bad canistels and I think Bruno has the best flavour and texture of any I have tried, The one in the pic has 4 seeds and 2 or 3 is more the usual number.

Citrus General Discussion / Being bugged a bit too much
« on: June 04, 2018, 04:15:22 AM »
Growing citrus in my area is quite a challenge with lots of insect pests let alone avian ones like cockatoos.Numerous fruit piercing moth species attack my mandarins and oranges before they ripen. The foliage of trees is consumed by several species of large phasmids, whopping Valanga irregularis grasshoppers and even emperor moths. The following black and white (with bits of red and blue) swallowtail butterflies have their caterpillars on citrus in my district.

Dainty swallowtail, Papilio anactus (WS Macleay, 1826)
Orchard swallowtail, Papilio aegeus (Donovan, 1805)
Ambrax swallowtail, Papilio ambrax (Boisduval, 1832)
Fuscus swallowtail, Papilio fuscus (Goeze, 1779)
Chequered swallowtail, Papilio demoleus (Linnaeus, 1758)

The smaller aphids,and sucking bugs also give me grief at times but fruit flies and leaf miners are leaving the fruit and trees alone. Pinks disease is a constant fungal issue but we are talking insects now. Maybe may area and location are prone to insects pests and I do like butterflies. Are other people finding their citrus trees and fruit on the menu of insects a little too much? 


Taking my phone camera for a lap of the yard reveals only meagre pickings.It has been the coldest morning of the year so far with the minimum aound 10c less than what it has been all week. Anyway take a look at this stuff.

The dark flavicarpa passionfruit are loaded as you would expect at this time of the year.

My Bruno Canistel has some action and this is a very good type being richer and moister than most varieties.

There are always a few papaya and this one is looking hagged from the wind.

The krasuey sapodilla is loaded and finished its last crop just a few months ago.It is hard to show the abundance of fruit in a picture

Citrus General Discussion / A rare lime related to Fingerlimes
« on: June 01, 2018, 04:39:57 AM »
I got a plant from the market and received some fruit which a Brisbane grower gave to another forum member in Cairns who passed them on to me. Mt White Limes sure look much like fingerlimes but occur naturally around 2000km north of where finerlimes naturally occur. Mt White limes live in remote monsoon forests of Cape York Peninsula and further afield. They do have vesicles perhaps less developed than fingerlimes and the seeds are tiny being flattened discs around 2mm long.

I have been testing the camera on my new phone as I have been surviving without a mobile (cell) forever or maybe even longer.While strolling around Rusty's Market in Cairns today I thought I would take a few snaps of atemoya as Thera and others have shown an interest. As winter started today fruit availability is troughing and times are lean.

I see some pinks mammoths which are all around 1 to 2kg so I guess the whoppers have been taken out.

A mammoth derivative,maybe Hillary white.

The large variety I cut open last week.

They are everywhere.

With plenty of rollinia and soursop around also.

Sam ru du is the only mango in winter in the market


I have been seeing this large knobbly variety of atemoya in the markets lately and have tries it.It has few seeds unlike AP and Gefner and it sweeter and better quality than those. This one is well over 2kg and they get at least double that size with 1kg to around 3kg seeming to be pretty standard. Pink's Mammoths do get much larger but those in the markets are not the whoppers and Pink's Mammoth is mis-shapen and almost flakey inside such as in the broken apart one below and an intact one on the scale.

Could this be a new child of Pink's Mammoth or does someone recognise its variety? Maybe it is just new to my area.When I chop it open I will post a pic.


My female Russell's Sweet Garcinia has flowers and unfortunately the male tree beside it doesn't have flowers. Without pollination the fruit are small being only golf ball size when they get ripe.They often have one or two seeds that germinate and presambly grow only females.

When pollinated the fruit are large and sweet.

My Luc's Mexican Garcinia also has flowers and at a small size and young age. Maybe next year I have a Garcinia showdown between an Asian and American champ.


It is believed dinosaurs used to eat the cones whole.There is a big season every 3 years and these huge trees planted around the towns and cities have had their cones wasted for such a long time. Bunya nut trees are one of the most strikingly impressive pine trees as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Plucking lilly pillies
« on: May 11, 2018, 03:57:48 AM »

As I strolled through a small Atherton Tableland town I picked a few lilly pilly fruit of the myriad of types that seem to be planted. Three trees in a row caught me eye and I think two of them are Acmena smithii and Syzygium luehmannii which taste like sour apples and the trees are festooned.I don't know what the pink one is and the more vibrantly S.papyraceum and dainty Syzygium fibrosum (which are alright to eat) were a bit high. The fruit colours and heavy cropping of lilly pillies make them yard favourites in my district even if people hardly use the fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / What you see when fruit sleuthing
« on: March 30, 2018, 03:27:21 AM »
Today I went around a few places looking for safu.

Picked up a twisted chempadak from a friend on the way.

Got a mammoth and a Mt white Lime (Citrus garrawayae)  from the market.

Went to the 'safu' park and no safu on the trees bit there were other things to see.

Cant climb up the big matisia tree to get these.

Or this tree.
Saw a big canistel variety and 2 mystery canistel like Pouterias

An Annons padulosa from my brothers tree today. Or is that A,paludosa?

Went to a friends place but his safu had no fruit so came home and consoled myself with limberlost durian from my tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Need for seed - Urban foraging today.
« on: March 25, 2018, 02:26:55 AM »

On the way home from Innisfail today I stopped at a park with friends in the rain and did some freestyle plucking. The model behind the matisia is a friend.The matisia tree was crazy laden and huge.

Nothing special about these Garcinias except the G.dulcis is not your usual variety.

Giant yellow mulberries


When I arrived home today a limerlost and a Penang88 durian from my trees (as you can see in font of that stylish shirt) were on the ground and ready for consumption.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Innisfail Feast of the Senses
« on: March 25, 2018, 01:48:54 AM »

 On a crazy rainy day in Cairns I went with a couple of chums to the Innisfail Feast of the Senses today where the rain was lighter/Anyway, there were fruit displays of rare fruit including lots of durians,mangosteens.abiu.pulusan.chempadak and other tropical fruits that you would expect. A great day was had by all and it was great to see the Fruit Forest Farm people doing a roaring trade in rare tropical fruit trees and fruit in general. Unfortunately I was unable to get any fruit or seeds that I was really after.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / kampong mauve sugar apple
« on: March 16, 2018, 11:36:56 PM »

They are pretty good and at $4,80us/kg at the Mossman markets pretty reasonable.

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