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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mosquito fruits??
« on: October 16, 2017, 08:19:26 PM »

Since the common apples have a deep large dimple at the stem, I would think it  is a place that mosquitoes can breed. No?

Sorry it is not tropical fruit but people here are good at most fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cac Hoa Loc from Toptrop, or fake?
« on: October 09, 2017, 06:15:32 PM »
I bought this special Vietnamese mango – at higher price --  from Toptrop a few years ago. This year it had a few fruits, and based on the look it is not Cac Hoa Loc as sold but rather Mahachanok to me. So far I have two incidents that they seem to have mis-labeling the trees: wrong Edward and Cac Hoa Loc. I hate when this happened because we spent lots of effort and times, especially outside of idea tropical climate area, to nurture the trees and then ended up with something else.

I could be wrong but this pic shows it is Maha and not the yellow Cac Hoa Loc. Now I have two Maha trees.






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My 36" grafted Cac Hoa Loc from Toptrop had some fruits the first time. They all fiberous and not good taste. However its two scions were grafted on a 10ft Kent seedling gave excellent fruits, just 20ft from the mother tree. So it's worthwhile to wait for a grown up tree with more roots and more leaves to get more elements for a more better fruits. I hope this applies to other kind of mangoes too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Edward mango: mono or poly embryonic seed?
« on: September 11, 2017, 03:18:24 PM »
I ate two fruits from my tree (sold by Toptrop) and both had poly embryonic seeds to my surprise. From Wikipedia “The flesh has a rich, sweet flavor with a mild, pleasant aroma and contains a monoembryonic seed.”

Picture of my Edward fruits: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=24853.msg296764#msg296764

What is your Edward?

Btw, in a similar twist, my Vietnamese Cac Hoa Loc (sold by Toptrop) fruits have mono-embryonic seeds from 3 samples. The original 36" tree had 4 fruits and they were all fiberous and didn't taste good, while its scions grafted on a 10 feet Kent seedling gave same mono-embryonic seeds fruits but tasted excellent: balanced sweet and tart and the aroma of Maha. The seed is so thin that it almost gives 3 cheeks instead of 2 and a seed.  I think a strong mature tree gives better tasting fruits in this case. (These Cac Hoa Loc fruits look more like a Mahachanoc  without the red tint than the original one from Vietnam, so I don't know if it is a real deal Cac Hoa Loc or something else.)









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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Grafting parafilm tape cannot shipped to CA?
« on: August 01, 2017, 07:21:58 PM »
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085OFNVE/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

Why this parafilm tape can't be shipped to CA?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What fruit? Mango?
« on: July 28, 2017, 08:51:54 PM »
Found this on the web. Have you seen this before? Instead of chocolate box for Valentine, a dozen of Love Mangoes.

Pic in a little more than half way in the page:
https://thinkloud65.wordpress.com/category/beautiful-pics/





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / When to pick Edward mango fruit?
« on: July 26, 2017, 06:38:20 PM »
 This year I will finally have a few Edwards to eat for the first time (praying no other critters intercept this). Bought this 3’ grafted from TT  in 2014. Last year it had tons of flowers but not one fruit. Read from Top-Trop it says Edward is picked when the base just turned yellow color. Could someone please post a photo of fruit when to pick? I will post a photo tomorrow.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bridging a girdled mango trunk
« on: July 05, 2017, 05:51:51 PM »


My 3 yrs old seedling developed a shrunken dried cracked bark 1” ring around the trunk 3” above ground. I’m thinking a bridge graft to save it. Had anyone done this on mango before? Currently the tree is doing very well with lots of healthy new shoots and leaves, but the root will run out of food in times. I think the disease  bark was cause by unprotected from strong hot sun. I now think leaving the lower shoots to provide sun shade for the trunk instead of cut them off as most people would do.

Btw, bridge graft uses small scions to connect upper and lower trunk, but can one just use healthy strip of bark for the bridge?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What is the plant name?
« on: April 12, 2017, 06:57:53 PM »
This plant's root can be cooked and eaten as Taro. Vietnamese name is Khoai Chuoi. Do you know its English name? I wanted to learn when it is the right time to dig the root for food.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / 12/01/2016: SoCal mangoes start pushing flower?
« on: December 01, 2016, 02:01:35 PM »
Night temperature is below 50F  recently and I noticed some of mine are sending out flower stalks. Are yours doing the same? Mahachanok can bear fruits this early but I think others like Edward will be too cold to have fruits.

Sapote

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Do I have Glenn mango or wrong tree?
« on: August 23, 2016, 06:11:14 PM »
Bought a little grafted tree 3 years ago with Glenn tag. Held only one fruit this year. It started changing color last few days and I kept an eye on it. It dropped on soft cushion this morning and I was surprised of a strong aroma. Skin has 2mm dots all over, feel rough as Sapodia, total different compare to Glenn photo from Wikipedia below:












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I believe this is the Kesar plantation Tropicdude is referring to. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D2-bJ_0bh1E. I'm interested to know if the fruit will be irradiated or not. I'd love to get my hands on some non irradiated fruit.

Simon

Talking about irradiated (hot water treatment?) mango fruits, I have this question: why the mango imported to SoCal in the Winter all had blacken inside while very few or none during Summer? It's hard for me to believe the treatment processes are different for different time of the year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Passion fruit experts, please help!!!
« on: July 25, 2016, 06:35:20 PM »
My Frederic passion fruit vine was planted last year and now it has over 20 fruits. I had dropped total 6 “ripen” fruits in the last few weeks , but none were good to eat. They all looked rotten inside or dried out. Any idea? We had a few heatwave over 100F recently.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Ataulfo mango flower mildew
« on: July 18, 2016, 07:27:14 PM »
I’m talking about Mexico’s Ataulfo or Champagne mango, not HD La Verne’s Manila mango which has bumps and some red color. Ataulfo is all yellow with thin seed. My sister in CA 92704 has a seedling and holding one big fruit for the first time. I remember seeing its flower this spring with a lot of grey color mildew, and her neighbor older tree had the same severe mildew on flower and young leaves. Anyone grow Ataulfo in SoCal, and does it give good crop?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango grafting: Alampur Baneshan
« on: July 13, 2016, 02:25:07 PM »
 “This is a mango for the true connoisseur. A Condo mango.”

I bought this Alampur Baneshan because of the above description from Toptrop.

Problem: It’s in ground for about 4 years and only 18” tall – inches not feet. I had tried numerous times to graft its scion to a HD La Verne’s manila root stock, but not one survived. I had tried with green scions on green stocks, and the last trial was a young red shoot scion on red stock a month ago, and  now they are green, not dried but no new grow at all. I had almost 100% success with other mango but failed badly for Alampur. Had anyone ever grafted this mango?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango -- SoCal heatwave damages
« on: June 22, 2016, 07:05:20 PM »
SoCal heatwave in June 2016

I watered all my plants the night before the hottest day, but this recently heatwave might had killed a few of my young 1 year old seedling, cooked the Valencia 4" long young fruit, burned most of the Cac leaves. I wished I had screened all the plants from the sun but I didn't think about it.

What did you do for your mango plants?


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The tree had the first flower in April and I cut off all but two fruits, leaving the flower's main stalks hoping it would stop the flower cycle. Instead of sending out new leaves, it has lots of flower now. What did I do wrong? It is a graft from Florida's Top Trop I believe bought from a local nursery in East Los Angeles. Was planted on ground 15 months ago.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fig id?
« on: May 06, 2016, 05:58:06 PM »
There is a green fig tree on the sidewalk not far from where I live, SoCal. It had a late crop extended into November – late variety? -- with green fruit with red color inside. Some fruits had a drop of honey at the eye. I had tried to root many times –  in water -- but failed when planned the rooted cuttings in soil. Last winter I grafted a 4” cutting on my Osborne Prolific and it took easily. It sends out a few little fruit now. The leaves are unusual thick and large. Can you identify it? Does Bataglia have thick leaves?




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I had noticed that my tree sent out the panicles with the male flowers opened first. These flowers lasted a few days and dried up, then female flowers started opening. If female flowers opened after the male flower had dried, then what is the purpose of the timing sequence?

Male flowers:



Female flowers:



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Edward mango fruit grow rate
« on: April 28, 2016, 09:32:02 PM »
It seems to me my Edward fruits grow half the rate as compare to others like LZ, Kent, or Glenn. What do your Edward say?

Btw, Toptropic says "Another good trait is a long-lasting season". How's so; because it sends out a 2nd season flower after the first?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Edward mango rare bearing habit study
« on: March 21, 2016, 06:14:29 PM »
I made some observation about why Edward was called a moderate bearing habit. Edward flowers have many incomplete flowers as compare to others such as Glenn’s flower. The photos show the Glenn with a tiny fruit at the center and many Edward flowers have none. A flower stalk on Glenn has many flowers with those fruits but a big stalk from Edward only has a few. This could be a genetic defect of Edward. To help it I had covered the tree with a plastic sheet at night and removed on sun rise to prevent wet dew formed on the flowers leading to fungus issue.

Edward incomplete flower:



Glenn flower:




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My 4 years old Kent seedling starts flower!!!!
« on: December 23, 2015, 04:47:45 PM »
Hi All,

Could you be able to confirm my 4 yrs  Kent seedling  is sending out flower buds?

Thanks,
Sapote




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / So Cal mango start flowering
« on: December 10, 2015, 06:52:03 PM »
Do you mangoes start send out flower buds? VN Cac Hoa Loc and Thai Maha grafted on HD manila this summer have the flower buds about to open on Dec 10th. Is it normal time of the year?

Sapote

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Edward mango leaves problem
« on: October 15, 2015, 05:12:08 PM »
My Edward sent out many flushes this year, but for whatever reason the last two flushes the young leaves didn't look healthy with big leave -- they were smaller and had those small reddish spots all over.

The whole tree shot to show it's not in any bad shape. It grew 24" or more this year.


The reddish spots



Any idea what caused this?

Thanks,
sapote

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My wife took these photos today after seeing the fruits started turn color. Last Sunday when we drove by I noticed they were still all light green, like an Asian variety. I have not seen the tree in close, but the photo seems to show it's a seedling with two main trunks near ground. The tree form and leaves look like a Home Depot Manila but those HD fruits should had ripen a month ago, and the fruit should have more red/yellow flush. The S shape is more of an Asian fruit. I want to ask the owner one day.

Sapote





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