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Hi all, I know there is a post about growing Luc's Garcinia around the world but I thought it would be a good idea to start a post about growing it in Southern California.  I figure it is common enough now that we can gather information specific to our location.  Information like growth, cold tolerance, heat tolerance, disease problems, fruiting characteristics etc. can vary from location to location.  Hopefully gathering information in one place will be useful.

I'll start by telling you guys my experience so far.  I obtained my one year old seedling in April of 2015.  If I remember correctly it was about six inches tall.  I grew it in a pot until spring of 2018 when I put it in the ground.  At that time it was about two feet tall.  That summer it had three growth flushes.  It grew to three feet tall and started to branch out laterally.  This summer it is always in a constant state of growth.  It doesn't have growth flushes where the whole plant grows at once, anymore.  It now is always growing somewhere on the plant but not all at once.  It is currently over 4.5' tall and sill growing strong.

My house is in Long Beach and I live about two miles from the beach.  Because of this I have mild summers and winters.  I have the Limoncillo planted in dappled shade with about two inches of mulch.  I fertilize it several times a summer.  The only disease problem I have had so far is scale attacking the new growth. 

I'm hoping it will fruit at about 6-8 feet tall?  I really have no idea.

Here are some pictures.


Hi all, I'm looking for the largest Garcinia Intermedia "Lemon Drop" plant available for sale in SoCal.  Does anyone have one for sale or know of nurseries that sell them?


Hi all FYI Laguna Hills Nursery in Santa Ana CA has airlayers of Farwell Ranch.  I don't know much about this variety but believe it is a seedling of Brewster or Mauritius.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB AeAe variegated banana
« on: April 16, 2018, 05:08:12 PM »
Hi all, I'm searching high and low for an AeAe variegated banana.  I know they pop up for sale occasionally on Ebay but does anyone here grow them?  Or know where I could buy one?


Hi all, I want to buy a Garcinia Madruno or Garcinia Madruno sweet seedling.  I'm willing to pickup in SoCal or mail order.  Any help is appreciated.

Long Beach, CA

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB Garcinia Paniculata
« on: April 13, 2018, 01:16:09 PM »
Hi all, I'm searching high and low for a Garcinia Paniculata seedling.  I can pickup in SoCal or mail order is fine.  Anyone have one?

Long Beach, CA

Hi all, I have several Garcinia Achachairu seedlings for sale.  These are for local pickup only.

two feet tall $40 SOLD
almost two feet tall $35 SOLD
Six leaf seedling about 8" tall $15


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Bananas for sale in SoCal
« on: April 13, 2018, 12:35:43 PM »
Hi all, I grow the following bananas.  All heights listed are the height of the Pseudostem i.e. "trunk" at fruiting height. By propping I mean that certain varieties when fruiting become top heavy and will fall over. To prevent this they need to be propped up.  The size doesn't really matter because they grow so fast. The true value here is that you are actually getting the variety you pay for.  Many, many bananas sold online and at nurseries are mislabeled. 

3 gallon plants are $20 and about 2-3 feet tall total height excluding pot.
6 gallon plants are $35 and about 4 feet tall total height excluding pot.
15 gallon plants are $50 and 5 feet or taller, total height excluding pot.

Currently available for sale I have Namwa in 3 or 6 gallon, Gold Finger in 6 and 15 gallon, Dwarf Brazilian in 15 gallon, Blue Java in 3 and 15 gallon and Manzano in 3 and 6 gallon.  I have one 3 gallon Paggi available.  It is over two feet tall and costs $30. 

Dwarf Brazilian - Beautiful plant, grows to 8-10' tall, nice wide dark green leaves, produces large bunches of delicious fruit. This is a Hawaiian variety. In Hawaii it is called an Apple Banana. THIS IS A MUST HAVE! If you only grow one banana, this is it! Never needs propping. Photo 6.

Gold Finger - Nice banana, grows to about 10', large fruit. It is a cross between Dwarf Brazilian and Gran Nain (the bananas you buy in the store i.e. Chiquita bananas). Needs propping.

Manzano - Grows tall and skinny, produces bananas that have a slight green apple taste to them, grows to 10-13' tall. Requires propping.

Mysore - Reddish purple coloring in the trunk, and the underside of the leaf. Produces heavy bunches of very sweet flavorful bananas 3 to 5-inches long. Widely grown in India and one of the favorite dessert bananas there. Very ornamental and a good producer of quality bananas. Grows to 10-14' tall. Requires propping. Photos 2 and 3.

Blue Java AKA Ice Cream - This is the real Ice Cream banana.  Most bananas sold as Ice Cream aren't the real thing.  This banana tastes like no other! It has a light and fluffy texture with a slight vanilla taste. The fruit ripens to a blue, silver color with light green leaves on the plant. Grows to 10-12' tall. This is a Hawaiian variety.  It requires propping. Photos 4-5.

Namwa - Produces 200-300 of the sweetest bananas you have ever tasted! Fruit flesh is dense and light orange colored. This banana is from Thailand.  Requires propping. Grows to 8-11' tall.

Red Iholene - One of the most beautiful banana plants due to its attractive coloring of red and purple on the trunk and under sides of the leaves. The pink fleshed bananas are delicious fresh or cooked and is a favorite Hawaiian variety. Very beautiful plant but it is cold sensitive.  It grows to 10-12'. Photo 1.

Gros Michel - The original store bought banana! Up until the 1950's this was the most popular banana sold in the world. Most of the plants were killed by disease and the banana industry switched to a new variety. The Gros Michel is a little larger and MUCH better tasting than the bananas sold in stores today. Grows to 12-14', requires propping. Photo 7.

California Gold - A very short and cold hardy banana. Excellent for colder areas or to be grown in a pot. Grows to only 6' tall. Does not require propping.

Raja Puri - A very popular banana from India. It is very cold and wind tolerant. Another good variety to grow in pots. It grows to 8' tall. Sometimes needs propping.

Dwarf Red - Very beautiful short plant that is very sensitive to cold. The plant has red coloring to Pseudostem and fruit. These are the red bananas you can buy in the store. It grows slow and is recommended only for collectors. Grows to only 6-8' tall. Photos 8, 9 and 10.

Paggi - Believed to be related to Gros Michel.  Many who have tasted this banana say it is the best they have ever tasted.  Grows to about 12'.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Reed Avocados in April?
« on: April 03, 2018, 04:04:13 PM »
Hi all, my two and a half year old Reed Avocado is dropping its fruit.  The tree is about ten feet tall and three or four feet diameter.  I let it hold three fruit last year and stripped the other fruits off.  Two days ago it dropped one of the fruit and today it dropped another.  The fruit are very big the first weighted over 24 ounces and the second weighted over 26 ounces.  I've read that Reed usually weight 16-20 ounces.  Is this true?  If so are these fruit dropping because they are ready?  Or are they too big for the small tree?  Any advice would be appreciated. 

The first fallen fruit is getting soft and I will try it tonight.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Dot mango dying in SoCal
« on: March 20, 2018, 12:26:32 PM »
Hi All, I thought I would share my experience growing Dot mango in SoCal.  I knew it was disease prone in SoCal but I didn't realize how weak it truly is.  I bought this Dot as a three gallon and it has been in the ground for about a year.  It has experienced consistent die back so about six months ago I started spraying it with copper and sulfur once a month.  That seems to have helped as it kept the remaining one foot plant alive threw winter.  But it has now started to die off again.  I think this is do to all the recent dew and fog.  I have not given up and I bought a seven gallon Dot to replace it.  This plant seems much more disease resistant.  I think this might be because I have been spraying it since I got it or because it is larger or because it is mislabeled and I accidently got a different more disease resistance variety.  Time will tell.  Does anyone have any advice to keep this variety alive?


Temperate Fruit Discussion / Strange Royal Lee Cherry behavior
« on: March 20, 2018, 12:19:03 PM »
Hi all, here are some pictures of my Royal Lee and Minnie Royal Cherries planted at the end of 2015.  They have grown like weeds and have been pruned back every winter.  Last year I got about 3 fruit off the Minnie Royal.  This year the Royal Lee is blooming before the Minnie Royal and it has fruit!  Strange thing is, I thought the Royal Lee needed the Minnie Royal to cross pollinate?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Lychee success in SoCal
« on: March 20, 2018, 12:13:44 PM »
Hi all, I thought I would share pictures of my Brewster Lychee planted as a 15 gallon at the end of 2015.  It has grown like a weed and far exceeded my expectations as far as health and vigor.  For me it has been a very low maintenance tree.  I was planning on pruning it this weekend but discovered flowers emerging all over it!  I hope it holds fruit.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Need help with small air layered Lychees
« on: August 24, 2017, 12:50:08 PM »
Hi all, these are two very small "micro air layers" of Kwa Luk Lychee.  I have had them for about four months.  At first they seemed to be doing fine but now the leaves are yellowing and some leaves are dropping.  I'm not a Lychee expert of nutritional expert so I thought I would look for some advice here.  I'm scared to fertilize them because I know others here have lost small air layered Lychees after fertilizing.  These air layers are only about 12" tall.  Any advice?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Not impressed with Ice Cream banana
« on: August 24, 2017, 12:13:01 PM »
Well, after looking endlessly for the real Ice Cream banana I finally found it.  I then grew it to fruiting size only to have it blow over in a strong wind.  So I waited for it to grow it to fruiting size again.  It has now fruited for the second time and the bananas are ripening as we speak.  This whole process has probably taken three years.  After all this time and work and suspense all I can say is "What a let down".  The bananas really aren't that good.  The peal if very difficult to peal off.  It keeps breaking off instead of peeling off.  Once I do manage to peel the banana strings from the peel are all over the fruit.  Once I peel these off, the fruit is just OK.  It does have a lighter more creamy texture but not in a good way.  Mushy might be a better way to describe it instead of creamy.  And to add to all this the core of the fruit is firm.  It is the only banana I have ever had that I eat around the core and throw it out when done.  I have tried eating these bananas a little under ripe and a little over ripe trying to find the right timing but nothing seems to help.  I think I'm going to give the plant another chance to fruit but if I get the same result I'm going to pull it.  Right now I'm hoping that this is just a bad batch of fruit since they hung on the plant all winter.  Only time will tell.

Has anyone else had a different experience with the real Ice Cream banana?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Has anyone tried Kwa Luk Lychee?
« on: April 16, 2017, 01:10:21 AM »
After reading about how good and big they are supposed to be, I'm wondering why no one grows them?


Temperate Fruit Discussion / My cherries are blooming in sync!
« on: March 05, 2017, 01:05:38 PM »
My second leaf Minnie Royal and Royal Lee just started blooming together!  I'm excited. Hopefully I can taste some of these cherries this year off my own tree.  I'm excited so I had to tell someone. My wife doesn't care.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Grafted Mango trees for sale SoCal only
« on: September 21, 2016, 02:19:37 PM »
Hi all, I'm trying to clear some room in the backyard so I'm selling some mango trees.  For sale I have:

15 gallon grafted Rosigold Mango tree. This tree is very well developed and five feet tall from the top of the pot. This tree is known for being one of the earliest mangos of the season. $150

Cogshall Mango tree grafted in 15 gallon pot. This is a very developed tree that measures 4 feet tall from the top of the pot and about as wide.  $150

This is a very mature 7 gallon grafted Fairchild Mango Tree. It measures over four feet tall from the top of the pot and three feet wide. The trunk measures almost 2.5" wide. It is ready to go into the ground or a 15 gallon pot. $125

This is a 7 gallon Edward mango tree. It is almost 4 feet tall from the top of the pot. $75


I see that Sadhu at Govardhan Gardens in Puerto Rico has two types of Garcinia Madruno.  He has a regular and sweet variety.  Has anyone tasted the sweet variety and can compare it to the regular Madruno's?  How much better is it?  Any info is appreciated.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Are Garcinias true to seed?
« on: August 22, 2016, 12:56:10 AM »
What I'm trying to figure out is if seeds are obtained from a supposed superior strain of Garcinia does that mean that the seedling will have the same superior traits?  Sadhu at GOVARDHAN GARDENS has what he says is a sweet variety of Garcinia Madruno.  Is it worth trying to get seeds from this supposed superior strain?  If Garcinias aren't true to seed than seedlings from this variety could be average or subpar.  Am I correct with this reasoning?  I don't want to go thru the hassle of growing the plants from seeds if the resulting plants aren't going to carry the superior traits.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is this Garcinia Intermedia?
« on: August 14, 2016, 07:10:39 PM »
Hi all, Long story short I was in Costa Rica for the past 9 days and found this fruit at a fruit wholesaler.  They call it Jorco which according to Wikipedia is Garcinia Intermedia.  The description and pictures sound right except for the size of these fruit.  These on average are 1 5/8" wide by 2" long and some are a little larger.  They taste like Mangosteen but not as sweet with a slight acidity to them.  They are very addicting.  There is not a lot of flesh to them but like eating peanuts you can't stop eating one after another.  I found out where the grower is and maybe next year I will try and visit him.  I'm thinking it may be a grafted form of Intermedia since in the last couple of years  grafted variety of fruits are popular in Costa Rica. 

Any ideas?  I really don't know much about the many different Garcinias and would like a little help from the more knowledgeable people.


After several years of growing my mango trees in pots I am finally planting them in the ground.  On the left are newer varieties Fruit Punch, Lemon Zest, Sweet Tart and Gary (a parent of many new Zill varieties).  On the right are oldy but goodies Edward, Maha Chanok, Southern Blush and an open spot for Dot.  I plan on following Fairchild's fertilizer and pruning advice to keep them small.


Is it an old Florida variety?  Was it imported?  Another Zill creation?  I have this tree and don't really know much about the history of it so thought I would ask.


Hi all, in Southern California how small can a regular mango tree be kept?  By regular I mean not a normally compact grower such as Pickering or Ice Cream but a regular variety such as Edward, Southern Blush or Lemon Zest.  Is seven to eight feet realistic?


Hi all, I bought a grafted Star Apple purple variety on Ebay.  I have never tasted the fruit. My wife is from Costa Rica and she said these were her favorite fruit as a kid growing up.  She really wanted me to get one so I did.  You know the saying "A happy wife is a happy life". 

From reading posts in this forum and others I know they can be grown in Southern California.  I was wondering if anyone has first hand knowledge of how they grow or fruit in SoCal.  When do they fruit here?  Does the fruit properly sweeten up here? Is the tree a fast grower?

I've read that the tree is very nice looking which is good since I plan on putting it in the front yard.  I figure even if the fruit isn't very good grown here, the wife will be happy because I tried and I'll have a nice looking ornamental in the front yard.

Any info will be appreciated.

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