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Avocados from seeds...

In a series of discussions, someone (A) claimed he had grown multiple avocado trees from seed in SoCal and all of them fruited around year 5. Another (B) said his relative planted a costco avocado seed in East Asia and it fruited in year three.

I'm curious what you think. What is the likelihood of the above being all true? If you guesstimate, how likely is 5 avocado seedlings all fruiting at age 5, assuming excellent care? (We all know they don't grow true to seed, or even no fruit at all. So how risky is it, really?)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID help: grape seedlings
« on: March 05, 2019, 04:17:08 PM »
Hi TFF family, I made the huge mistake of not labeling my grape seedlings sigh.
Wondering if I may have some ID help... My records only say blueberry grape, perfume (muscat) grape, and unknown crooked...
Any hints to maybe find out if any of them is concord? I'm suspecting the 3rd one. Thank you very much!







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID help: eggplant shaped avocado?
« on: May 04, 2017, 08:09:23 PM »
Does anyone recognize this avocado variety? All fruits are shaped like eggplant (?), received them overripe, dark thin skin, very creamy flesh.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Shade tolerant fruit trees?
« on: March 16, 2017, 01:40:58 PM »
Shade tolerance, anyone? I have limited growing space and every square inch counts. I hope to plant a fruit tree at a spot shaded partly by a nearby large tree. Between fig, wax jambu, guava, or pomegranate, which one do you think has the largest likelihood of fruiting in part sun / part shade, zone 10a? Many thanks!!

By the way I'm impressed how my mulberry is able to pull off fruiting in even more shaded spot of my yard, where a persimmon tree was barely hanging on previously. My loquat tree seems to be relatively OK with shade too, but they are not yet at fruiting age.

Thank you very much!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / How to save this poor peach tree?
« on: August 30, 2016, 03:45:04 PM »
Help request from a friend... Gardener gave her once-beautiful-and-productive peach tree a bad pruning 5 years ago, and it is just not the same tree again. New growth on the top only, a few fruits 2 years ago, no fruits at all last year.
What do you recommend to save the poor tree? Topping? Girdling? Many many thanks in advance!!





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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Induce new growth on tree trunk?
« on: July 18, 2016, 11:35:07 PM »
I attempted to top and multi-graft my 3 yr old peach tree this spring, and all of the bark grafts failed while V grafts on a small side branch took. Right now the tree is putting all its energy toward those grafts, and the whole tree looks unbalanced. Is there anyway to induce new growth from the tree trunk? Thank you very much!

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I have run out of ground space long time ago, and some trees will settle in 15 or 25 gallon nursery pots, sobs. However, all nursery pots are in black and they tend to heat up badly when weather hits 90+F.

Is there anything I could do to avoid damage? I cannot mulch since these pots will likely sit on concrete (sad!!!). Anyone has experience with painting the pots to a different color (maybe green? I have a few pots from Monrovia Nursery in green) Or wrapping them up with light color material? Or provide shading on ground level? Will these help? Also since trees stay in those pots long term, any suggestions to make them last longer?

Much appreciated!!

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Hello all :D  I am trying to build a mini greenhouse for rooting the cuttings I recently received: figs, mulberry, and pomegranates. Well, the frame is done (4' x 3' x 2' from 3/4" pvc pipes plus 3-way elbows), but I am not sure if the plastic sheet I have on hand will work - not sure where they came from either, construction maybe?

My friend says it will burn the plants for sure because air will not circulate. I thought the idea of greenhouse is to lock in the humidity and maintain heat...? Ideas based on the photo? If it is not suitable, any recommendations for local selections? Many thanks!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / RIP... second loquat tree loss
« on: November 14, 2015, 08:15:46 PM »
I suppose we officially lost another loquat tree. Not sure how the first one died, but the second tree (4' tall, growing new leaves and with 2 graft takes) basically turned yellow-brown in less than 3 weeks. A trunk scratch test shows dead brown near the root, while top of the tree still has some green. I guess it died from the root and probably beyond redemption. Could it be a case of fire blight?

Loquats are said to be easy growers and we somehow lost two in a row already :'( while the allegedly more fragile lychee / longan are doing OK, knock on wood... Could it be some poor gardening practice? Tears. As an afterthought, I just saw from my 10/23 photo the trunk had cracked bark near the root. I wonder what was it?

Taken 10/23/15



Taken 11/14/15


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / How to train your dragon... oh fuerte avocado
« on: October 13, 2015, 04:55:31 PM »
The tree is in the ground. No it's not a dwarf variety.
It's an older fuerte that shoots for the star in every way possible.
Revenges hard when pruned.

When you trim the tree too much it won't fruit.
When you not trim the fruits are out of reach.

How do you train large variety avocado trees so they stay about 2 stories tall?
Yearly pruning? Weight? Talking to it nicely? Just let it go?

Thank you so much!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / New plants trying hard to fruit
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:07:28 AM »
My small fig tree in pot has repeatedly tried to fruit, dropping its leaves to exactly two leaves while doing so. I usually removed the fruitlets immediately. But when I returned from a recent trip, voila, it finally found a chance to fruit ::) I gave in and hope it will ripen properly.

I also have multiple mulberry cuttings in pots. Two tiny ones from my neighbor were planted the earliest but look the smallest. Finally understood why: cuttings received in March, and by September each plant happily produced 2-3 fruits for my enjoyment. The others (diff. variety) just focused on vegetative growth.

In your experience, what trees vigorously push for fruiting even in their youngest stage?

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Hello all from 100F Southern Cal...  :) 

I am hoping to top my 3 yrs old peach tree (nursery likely screwed it up and gave us a poor variety) and graft it coming spring. The trunk diameter is roughly 3 inches. When would you recommend topping it, so there will be fresh greenwoods ready for graft when scion exchanges come up in Jan / Feb 2016?

For a mature citrus tree ~1.5 stories tall, how much trimming is required before it will consider taking new grafts? Your thoughts are much much appreciated!!

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Dear forum friends, any recommendations on buying fresh figs in San Gabriel Valley,  CA?

I fly to Chicago next weekend, and my friends requested fresh figs. Really not sure how well these delicate fruits travel, but first I'll need to FIND some good tasting fruits LOL

No luck with Wholefoods / Trader Joe. Not sure about Costco yet. Any farmers market that I should check out? Or does anyone have a large tree in the backyard that is still in season? Tips for buying and storing are much appreciated in advance :D

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Our jujube tree (not sure what cultivar, lang maybe?) has been a very reliable producer ever since planted 3 years ago. We always joked that if everything else fails, this tree will do great (relative to its small size).

Well, this year it had lots of new growth, bloomed beautifully, but only very few fruits are set. Scratching my head and wondering why? I admit I did not feed my trees during the fruiting season, just like the past 2 years...

Thank you very much!

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I have been trying to utilize more greywater for irrigating the vegetables and fruit trees. Have not implemented laundry to landscape yet, but need to find garden friendly cleaning products first lest I kill the plants with toxic water!

Does anyone have recommendations on specific products? I mostly read about the "Oasis" brand but they are $$ and only available online? Any DIY recipes that you use and seem to work well? Many thanks!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Planting dragon fruit close to wall
« on: June 03, 2015, 01:11:52 AM »
I have a dragon fruit in 5 gallon pot and am thinking about transplanting it to ground. The only space available is right by a south facing brick wall. Would having a dragon fruit planted close to the wall cause damage to it in the long run? How aggressive is dragon fruit root system and how close is too close? Thank you very very much!

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Sad story.
6' tall guava tree.
April 18, 2015.
Transplant shock.
No signs of life.
How much time to wait?
...lest it's still trying?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Caring for new grafts
« on: May 28, 2015, 04:31:43 PM »
All of a sudden I have quite a few new grafts on hand: mostly avocado (in ground), one loquat (in ground) and *maybe* one guava (in pot). I am totally obsessed and checking them way too frequently... Considering it's end of May already, what precautions would I need to protect these newly-taken grafts from the elements and summer heat? Paper bag / shade cloth?  I read it's better to keep the parafilm and grafting tape on for about 2 more weeks to make sure the union is secure, as long as the tape does not girdle?

On the side note, the unsuccessful grafts rotted as rainwater got trapped inside the transparent tape. Is there anything to be done in my future attempts? Tips truly appreciated!!!



I bumped into the above photo from myavocadotrees.com and wished I used my "tree wound" on hand: somehow thought it's for bark grafting only!

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Citrus General Discussion / Grafting: mix & match varieties
« on: April 17, 2015, 06:29:27 PM »
My navel orange tree bears lot of fruits (too much) and they are difficult to pick due to height and canopy density. I am thinking of trimming it to a more manageable size (thank you Viking Guy for detailed tips) and attempt to graft some other varieties onto it (fingers crossed).

What citrus varieties go well together? Good tasting orange / grapefruit / lemon recommendations? Timing recommendations?

I also have a smaller tangerine tree to work with, although to be honest, we can never get enough from that tree, haha.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Guava recommendation?
« on: April 17, 2015, 01:44:08 PM »
Have searched the forum and realized we have not talked about favorite guava varieties for a while :)

I am looking for a pest free, good tasting guava for zone 10b, preferably with minimal/edible seeds. It will be container grown. Recommendations are truly appreciated!

What is your favorite guava? :D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fullerton Arboretum - Green Scene 2015
« on: April 16, 2015, 01:01:18 PM »
http://fullertonarboretum.org/event_green.php
Saturday, April 18th & Sunday April 19th, 2015
10:00 am - 4:00pm
Ticket Price $10.00
$5.00 for Arboretum Members or with Titan Card

CRFG OC Chapter listed their trees on FB: https://www.facebook.com/ocfruit

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / wax jambu / wax apple sun requirement?
« on: April 11, 2015, 07:33:22 PM »
I saved a full sun spot in the garden for my tiny, still-in-the-pot black pearl wax apple, have always believed it requires full sun. today I heard from a nursery employee that wax apple actually needs shade for summer to protect its fruits from popping open. when asked how many hours of sun is preferred, she said 1-2 hours (!!)

is it true for southern California? I know wax apple is delicate and needs protection from frost, but never thought about shading it from summer heat. ideas? suggestions? Thank you so much.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Conserving graywater for fruit trees
« on: March 17, 2015, 03:59:01 PM »
California is in drought... and heatwave... My R/O water filter is not generating enough waste water right now to cover the whole garden, and I'm looking at sources of graywater before turning on the water faucet. For example, we easily collect 2 buckets of water in the kitchen daily, if we pay attention.

Does anyone use water from the shower or washing machine? How? Thanks a lot!

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For those of you mighty gardeners who squeeze maximum amount of fruit trees into limited space... I am very curious what do you consider a reasonable minimum spacing for your tropical trees.

I know in Dave Wilson's Backyard Orchard Culture theory, trees could be spaced 3 feet apart in hedgerow planting, is it realistic when it comes to tropical trees? What distance do you use for your trees and what factors do you consider? (I am planning 4-5 feet distance for loquat, cherimoya, fig, wax apple, but my parents feel it's way to little. The yard space in question is only 5' deep though instead of 10' compared to the hedgerow diagram below.)



When it comes to pruning, I heard it involves topping the trees frequently, at least for some non-dwarf varieties (cough cough kohala longan). That is, I do not want large trees, but if heavy pruning makes them barely fruitful then it defeats the purpose of planting fruit trees. Any tips and tricks to minimize the negative impact on the tree's productivity? (To be very honest, I researched on "summer pruning" and still very clueless when is it in SoCal and how is it done?)

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I am trying to figure out if anything can be done to bring more light to the base of my north facing wall. I heard about mirror, mylar, and even solar panels!! Thoughts? Experiences? Concerns? Thanks a lot!  :)

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