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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fatty tropical fruit photos
« on: February 27, 2019, 05:47:31 PM »
We call these iniaku here, pasu in Peru, and gustavia macarenensis in Latin.

Itís fatty, kind of salty taste.. thin flesh






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I expect you all enjoy it about as much as I do.

https://youtu.be/3HwWkVZhFbU

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Black Sapote Propogation by Cuttings
« on: August 12, 2018, 12:29:57 AM »
Sorry I donít have a photo, I might soon. So recently I was surprised a discarded black sapote stem that was discarded onto the soil of a potted black sapote as mulch or whatever stayed alive for maybe a couple months, still green I figured Iíd toss it out of the container and up came a nice little root. So I figured black sapote take by cutting very easily.

Today I searched the internet and found nothing about black sapote cuttings so far. Besides some none experienced based questions of why not.

While grafting some black sapote today I figured Iíd put the rootstock trimmings into some random unused pots with soil in them to see if they take as easily as the other one. I should wait a few months and post more content but Iím eager to pick brains of others. Iíll update this post if there is quality success.

So anyone have experienced with black sapote cuttings or noticed black sapote trimmings taking root before?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Banana photo diagnosis request
« on: August 10, 2018, 11:53:43 PM »
So this area seems to have degraded soil, Iím assuming low ph from agricultural mining but itís also been left to the wild for a couple decades and might have decent ph. Iím not sure. It is tropical ecuador at roughly 850 meter elevation the canopy was opened when the bananas were planted roughly 4 months ago. Any idea why they have the unhealthy growth habit? Slow growth and overly compact leaves it seems to me. It looks kind of like bunch top but the plants we took the suckers from donít have this disease so I think it is soil nutrients or ph..?

https://www.apsnet.org/publications/imageresources/Pages/FI00162.aspx

I will try given them urine, calcium and maybe magnesium sulphate. I havenít had soil testing done because itís a long ways and unfamiliar process down here in Ecuador but itís on my to do list.

Any experience with this and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / New plants for South America
« on: June 05, 2018, 07:31:29 PM »
Check out these new plants we got!

https://youtu.be/WqWlLd7_5Zc



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We will continue with some grafted mangoes, some Ross sapote seedlings and Mamey sapote seedling also another Black sapote Wilson variety. Then we will fill between the rows with flemingia for a chop and drop and encourage some low level ground cover like pinto peanut and short grasses to grow in the walkways for us to mow down and mulch on the trees. We have here pace Mamey sapote, grafted Ross sapote, bernicker and Wilson Black sapote, and lemon zest mango going in the ground.

https://youtu.be/1gDJnGMjIVs

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I have been having difficulty ripening plantains for consuming raw. We know to wait until they are black but usually the outer flesh is rotten before the inner flesh turns from starch to soft sweet juicy flesh.

Does anyone know if this is because of the variety being grown or if it is based on harvesting time or ambient humidity or available ripening gases in the ripening area?

Big thanks to anyone with a reliable clear answer to this!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Dwarf Fijian coconuts
« on: February 26, 2018, 11:28:42 PM »
Hey everybody,

I am looking to get some truly dwarf Fiji coconuts. Iíve tried contacting the guy in homestead but havenít succeeded, are there any other reliable sources in Florida?

http://romneyfarms.angelfire.com/coconuts.html

Is it true that Fiji are the only truly dwarf coconuts, I know there may be debate on this topic so mainly what are good resources for Fiji dwarf coconuts.

Thanks for the help


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Update on the Nursery Stock!
« on: January 04, 2018, 12:32:13 AM »
We are building an army, all of the Amazon jungle will eat these fruits! Food for the people, social security via backyard produce, health insurance from organic fruit based food intake, avoid pollution and taxes with homegrown local abundance! Spreading the ideas with irresistibly tasty nectar of godlike quality, some of the best genetics known worldwide turning carnivores into caring lovers of nature! Anyone in South America that is looking for these genetics, feel welcome to contact us, during the coming years we plan to be giving these out to experienced people and nurseries. Terrafrutis.com




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Here are some shots of recent grafts Iíve worked. We have a very recent side veneer of Bell carambola, two camouflaged approach grafts of Choquette avocado, two successful musang king approach grafts pushing growth after being removed too abruptly and loosing their leaves. Finally a close up of another approach graft of a lemon zest mango. If I get to eat each of these fruits I will be sofa king happy, really this is a part of living that outdoes most experiences in my opinion.













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Hey there from Terra Frutis down in Ecuador! Summertime here!
I am using air Pruning Trays and Pots to encourage more adventitious root growth and less tap root, in the wet tropics we need to focus on stimulating flower sets, when there is a short dry season a fruit tree may not even be stressed enough to flower which means no fruit. A big factor that causes the plant to get stressed is the supply of water, tap roots go deep to get a reliable water supply while most of the surface adventitious roots reaching to the sides of the tree provide the nutrients from fallen leaves, fungus and hummus.
The roots dry in the air and respond ideally by producing more root growth near the source instead of at the tip like when physically cutting a root. The plants vitality is greatly increased with this process, in the photos are some young ackee trays and underneath a grafted green sapote pot.

Any thoughts, criticism or advice?












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I canít tell if the left branch is from the rootstock or from the grafted geffner Atemoya scion.. this came from Excalibur nursery a couple weeks ago. Kind of valueable right now because I donít have much material and donít want to make the mistake of using scions of a rootstock. And of course I want to multiply it as fast as possible onto soursop rootstocks I have waiting.














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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Water droplets inside grafting tape
« on: October 20, 2017, 02:36:45 PM »
So after 2 days I am seeing water drops inside the grafting tape. It has been 4 days now. This is worrying me of course. Any thoughts on the cause and the risks? These are outdoor Some covered with bags some not, both have droplets. 12 mango grafts in total, 2 are already pushin growth. Suggestions for actions to take?   
Ecuador, mixed rainy sunny days, temps are avg 21 degrees C lows are maybe 16-17. Highs are mid to upper 20s. Y foto..




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Approach grafting Durian
« on: October 03, 2017, 12:52:43 AM »
Will it work? I did two approach grafts and two cleft grafts of musang king today.




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Hello, buenos dŪas,

So we have some ant problems here, we have waited to determine if they were simply a pain to us and not the plants, but now after seeing various trees with many flowers and no fruits that have these ants on them and another type of tiny ant that local Ecuadorian people state damages the plants, we decided to look into our best options to deal with them!

So I have been looking into options so far it seems we have.

Borax and sugar
Baking soda and sugar
Trunk rings of tanglefoot or similar products and Vaseline
Ash
Diatomaceous earth
Soap
Boiling water
Fire
Cinnamon, garlic, cayenne (on a cloth or around base of trunk)
Chemical based Insecticides
Oecophylla longinoda Or weaver ants

Worst types of ants we have so far are leafs cutter ants, they will just chop off a young trees foliage overnight. cambas or tiny fire ants as we call them which leave no eruption but hurt and itch for half an hour or more and usually can't be noticed until many are on you and 10-20 stings can induce a fever, and apparently cause root damage. Black ants that make a termite like trail and molest the flowers beyond acceptable amounts.

We have Implememted a few of these options listed and are looking for something more long term and effective. We are wondering what personal experience people have with Oecophylla longinoda or green/weaver ants how bad their sting is vs their help in a orchard. The bite of green ants might be less than the cambas or black ants which would be worth trading out if they don't damage the trees. Does anyone know if green ants damage any specific trees? Or just help most fruit trees?

I know of a farm(dry climate) that has already imported them to Ecuador but are is a drastically different climate than us here in the humid tropics. I would also like to hear people thoughts on their invasive potential, it seems to me that green ants building a small to large nest is a easy target if they do get out of control. I read they are a great benefit for citrus, coconuts, mangoes and?

Thanks for your information.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit Forest Nursery
« on: December 28, 2016, 11:20:44 PM »
So we hope to get some more plants as always but this is the current nursery batch, I think it is a pretty nice variety. Working on getting grafted cultivars now. So far we have collected kungyit or musang king, red jackfruit, lemon zest and harvest moon mango and a few others, but it's a bit difficult getting stuff to Ecuador.

https://youtu.be/UXo51rsv-P8

Prospects are to get grafted, air layered etc.:
Atemoya geffner
Sapodilla alano
Lychee
Breadfruit
Mamey sapote magaŮa or pantin?
Green sapote


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So most of these papayas are doing well but every so often i see or pick one that has this skin damage or rotting going on.

Also something i have not figured out is what makes some papayas get tumor looking bumps while others have nice smooth skin?!

here is the video showing the papayas and the tree.
https://youtu.be/QDdlXyPqqqw

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So these images are from a set of 3 papayas that are planted about 10 months ago in may, the second image is of a papaya planted about 5 months ago in September.
The main difference is that the second image the papaya has been urinated on daily because it is outside my bedroom window and i get up to pee at night. The group of papayas has been urinated on occasionally and had compost put around them a few times. Another aspect is that one against the house has a cement foundation to grab onto. What are your experiences with using fresh or fermented urine as a fertilizer?

Note: you can see the 3 papayas in the background of the second image.

 The flowers dont look to be holding onto the fruits or they are not getting pollinated in the first image?


 
This Papaya is growing faster than practically every other papaya plant in the yard :D


Updated Photo (feb 11th 2016) :D




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / plant identification
« on: January 15, 2016, 09:41:31 AM »
2 images each of the 2 most resiliant ground weeds i've been dealing with, I would love help identifying them and any information on suggestions for dealing with them, if they are good mulch etc, anything you know.  This is located in Ecuador 1900mm rainfall 700 meters elevation. Amazonian side of the andes south east Ecuador.







second subject:










any resources or pdf on weeds n plants of latin tropics etc are helpful. I have been searching online for these two all morning n macheting them forever!!  :(

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Hello Everyone, So i have some anonna plants, sapodilla and maybe guava that seem to have this same problem of the root/stem getting a infection? and callusing up and slowly dying off?

Can you help tell me what is going on here? too much water? Too rich of potting soil?





And any thoughts on fig here? I sprayed soap water on them which reduced the pests a good amount but still the are going at the leaves.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Terra Frutis
« on: December 10, 2015, 09:48:11 PM »
Here is a video we made specifically for this post!
https://youtu.be/P-M6EbpzEmQ

Hey Everyone!
A group of People and myself have started a farm, Terra Frutis. We are trying to collect all the best fruits to grow in the tropics. Our hope by creating this video and post are to attract more similar minded people to start something similar, help us by getting their hands dirty, sharing information, sending seeds or financially donating. Our website www.terrafrutis.com has more information about us and at http://www.terrafrutis.com/starter-packs we have a seed wishlist. Green Sapote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pouteria_viridis Is a seed we are really hoping to find.

We are very glad to hear suggestions for seeds or strategies that you think can improve our situation. We are striving to live more and more sustainable in time and do the least damage meanwhile. We really appreciate reading through the website as a resource for information and look forward to contributing more soon. We have lots of land to work with and a decent seed collection so far, after roughly 1 year since starting most of our trees are still young. currently we have 10 people living and working on the land. There is climate info and more on the about us page of the website. I am glad to answer any questions anyone has and fill requests for trading seeds, videos etc.

-TF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Water Extracts of IBA from plants
« on: October 12, 2015, 11:14:22 PM »
I have read about willow being used as a rooting hormone, I am here to ask if anyone knows of plants more rich in IBA and if water extracts are the ideal solvent? I am looking for something more tropical as I am in Ecuador. Shipping rooting hormone is not the best option here but it is one. I would rather use a bit more time and effort than outsourcing though. So any insightfilled science based information is very appreciated.

I will continue to research myself, thanks!

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