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I added a couple of quick video descriptions of the Bangkok Lemon Seedling Jackfruit tree I am growing in my yard.

https://youtu.be/dE2zKXuHhG0
https://youtu.be/h7gVVDas5g4




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My Florida Lucís- Fruit tasted video links
« on: September 07, 2019, 03:48:55 PM »
Hereís a video of us trying out the Mexican Garcinia I have growing in my yard from seed. 




https://youtu.be/JEyjifr0w74
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XT5OJKlvWbQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5tZ0NatX1-c

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Aichacharu first fruits - SFl
« on: April 13, 2019, 04:36:30 PM »
My Aichacharu has a few little fruit on it. 

I was walking the yard and found them growing - never saw it flower. 










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / The Best Mango - On any given Sunday
« on: July 01, 2018, 05:36:00 PM »
It was great to sit down today with Friends and continue our traditional, annual, Mango Snob evaluation and Feeding Frenzy.  A few key players were missing - but the core was there, as well as a new official 8 year old snob in the making.  HMHausman(King Harry), Murahilin, cbss_daviefl, PDiddy, and myself stuffed our faces and rated more mangoes than 5 humans should really eat.





I canít remember all of the varieties we tried, but here is a list off the top of my head:
E-4
Edward
Guava
Taralay
Dupree
Lemon Zest
Orange Sherbet
Pineapple Pleasure
J12
Ice Cream
Dot
Coconut Cream
Haden
Sweet Tart
Maha Chanok
Fruit Punch
Peach Cobbler
Edgar
Venus
San Felipe
Rapoza

There were definitely more varieties than above at the table.  My memory is probably obscured a little bit by the sugar coma the feast put me in.

My top 3 -

E-4
Sweet Tart
Dot.

Many others were really great, some off, and some falling short of potential and previous years.

As always it goes - not everyoneís top 3 were the same, with my sonís top 3 being J12, Dot, Fruit Punch...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Berry Jackfruit Seedling
« on: July 08, 2016, 11:04:53 PM »
Today Brandon and I tasted my Berry jackfruit seedling.  It is described in the link below


http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?action=search2;params=eJw1zMENAjEMRNFWEBeuUAI1bAGR1x6RrEyCnASElOLXQcvtzzsMyZsyQ8ZlXMd5rDbr5lVj-QQuz5ei4W993cAtlKxfpynFWpBkvgSVD_FlUPyeJ4GMo-O912akifJpAURTfuydxjJX;start=0




Best Jack I've had this year by far, and possibly my favorite overall to this point.  It's difficult to determine based on a single fruit, but this one sure seems like a winner.  Wonderful aroma, great texture - medium to firm with no gagging effect, and taste was on point.  In addition to all of that, the tree is only 2 years in the ground and should only improve. 

I'm very impressed. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Lychee Bloom S. Fla. 2016
« on: February 20, 2016, 11:33:59 AM »
My Sweetheart Lychee is going into full bloom.  No activity from my Mauritius or Brewster.

Anyone else seeing lychee bloom ?




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Nubbins
« on: May 23, 2015, 12:15:42 PM »
This year, for whatever reason, my Glenn and Cogshall are producing quite a few mature "Nubbin" mangoes.  About golf ball size, mature ripe, and they pack a punch. 

They taste better than the full size fruit.  My Cogshall overall production is very light, and 80% of the fruit are Nubbins.  Weird but true....

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I have a " mystery tree" that I was hoping to get some new opinions/insight on.  I have brought this tree up for discussion in previous years, but now it is holding fruit, which has brought me to ponder it's origin and genetics once again..

Background:  I was given this tree by fellow member jsvand in a 3 gallon container.  When I first planted it, it was not in great shape, probably having been in the 3 gallon for some time.  It had a tag on it from the Broward Rare Fruit Council which read " Chempedak".  I had little hope for the tree, being a chempedak which are notoriously tough to grow here in S.Fla.  The tree however has done quite well over time.  It has been a strong grower and has not seemed any more sensitive to the cool winters than my other Jacks.  Early on, I posted photos of the tree and most experts including Oscar commented that is was most likely a cheena, as the leaves were not "hairy" enough to be a true chempedak.  Add all the previous up, and I had also come to the conclusion that this has to be either 100% Jackfruit, or a cross Jak x Chempedak. 

I have been anxiously awaiting the tree to flower and fruit, and this year I am happy to say the tree is holding 2 fruit.  To add to my excitement, the fruit definitely look different than any of my other Jacks.  They are long and cylindrical, with a yellow color.  Leads me to believe ( or hope) at this point that these have a lot of chempedak DNA in them. 





One interesting point that Brandon brought up to me this weekend at the BRFC sale is as follows :  Excalibur sometimes has trees that are put up for sale at the BRFC.  Especially Jacks and the like.  Sometimes Excalibur has some very interesting things in the works.  Which brought me to wonder if this tree is from Excalibur, and if so, could Rob find out any info on it?

Anyway, on to the pictures, and hopefully some expert opinions ....












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Jackfruit Flowers can be tough to identify in regards to male vs female.  I figured I would post some pics of female and male flowers to help my fellow Jak growers.

In general female flowers grow from flower stalks that are near the trunk or major branches near the trunk.  This is a general rule of course, and females can grow more peripherally.  Female flowers also tend to have a more profound "collar".  This can be deceiving however as females from some varieties don't have a particularly profound collar and males from some varieties do have remarkably profound collars.  Females have much more noticeable bumps on their surface.  You can definitely see the difference in the "bumps" when side to side with a male. 

One thing that is only present on females is tiny "tubules" on the tip of the bumps when receptive to pollen.  When seen close up, it is distinctive.  Males have powdery or granular pollen which is also distinctive.   

Well, a picture speaks a thousand words right?  Check it out :)

2 females on variety: Excalibur


Close up of "tubules" on female flower variety: Excalibur



Male flower on variety: Excalibur



Female flower on variety: Super Thai.  Yes, there is male pollen on it, I had just finished hand pollinating it :)



Female flower past receptive stage, now more like a fruit - variety unknown, tagged as "chempedak" by BRFC - likely a cheena.  You can also see a female flower pre receptive stage in the background.




Receptive female next to a crusty old male - asme variety as above


Male from same tree



Female variety : seedling of Bangkok Lemon


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Here are two pictures of my Bangkok Lemon Jackfruit that I harvested today --






I've been waiting on this fruit to ripen for some time.  It has been on the tree for about 8 months.  I have been thumping it daily to check for ripeness since early July.  It seemed to sit on the tree forever.  This morning I knew it was ready as I walked up to the tree.  It was emitting a pleasantly sweet aroma that I detected about 10 yards away..

It has a slight give to it, adding to it's odor emitting sign of ripeness.  The fruit looks like 2 fruit fused together, giving it a tremendous girth.  It is the largest Jackfruit I have harvested from this tree.  It grew in the canopy about 10 feet off the ground, and was completely self pollinated.

So, whats the weight?






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My first South Florida Breadfruit
« on: August 09, 2014, 05:41:49 PM »
My Ma-afala tree has held 5 fruits over the summer.  I harvested the first one today and cooked it up on the grill ...











I think I overcooked it.  I left it on the grill for about an hour at around 425f.  The flavor was decent, but I think I need to up my cooking skills in order for it to truly shine.  Anyway, I am happy that the tree actually held fruit to maturity here in S.Fla.  I certainly won't Axe the tree anytime soon, but I also don't think I'll make a grand effort to cold protect it this winter.

I hope I can get a chempedak or marang to fruit one of these days ....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sequestrene drenches are a PITA!
« on: March 14, 2014, 11:56:26 AM »
I just wanted to vent about what a total PITA it is to do soil drenches with sequestrene 138. 

Mixing 3 tablespoons of that powder in a 5 gallon bucket, geez, iron lung.  Then, it is so blood red, your hands and everything else gets stained.  And to top it off, you have to dump 3 gallons of the mix per inch of tree diameter.  Hmmnnn ... Let's say 20 gallons for a decent sized tree, x a lot of trees = a $hitload of work.


There.  I said it.  I feel better now :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My Breadfruit Protection Project
« on: January 05, 2014, 03:08:22 PM »
I figured i would start a new post to illustrate this weekends project.  With the help of Brandon, we did it in about a day and a half.  Couldn't have done it without his help, and many thanks. .....

This project began in a rush, without much planning, as a cold front is making its way to S. Fla Monday night.  When I planted this tree, I knew the risks and I told myself I wouldn't try to protect it from our occasional winter cool blasts.  But, this tree has almost rudely had a way of changing my idea of just letting it be when it decided to pop out 5 fruit in January.  Go figure.

Anyway, here is what we did:

I decided on using wood to frame out the structure.  I knew going into the build that wood is not exactly a long lived material here in S. Florida.  I thought about using steel fence posts used in chain link fences, but realized the cost was about 3x that of wood.  Brandon discussed with me using steel conduit, which seemed like a reasonable idea.  I ended using wood because I figured I would have and easier time fastening the plastic sheeting to the wood.  Using wood definately may have been a mistake as far as longevity is concerned,  I'll find out soon enough.

Posts, I used 4x4's, in 8 foot length.  We dug post holes, and concreted in the 4x4's.  Height was extended with 2x4's, mounted on metal brackets, adding about 3 feet of height.   We set out a 8x12 area around the tree, and after the posts set, built up the rest of the structure.

The posts and framing took up a good bit of time.  The cost for all materials including concrete, screws, etc was about 100$

On day # 2, I went back to home depot and purchased some 6 mil plastic sheeting.  This is not the UV protected kind, but I had to use what was available.  We cut the sheeting, and attached the two long sides in a semi-permanent fashion.  I intend on leaving the two long sides up until march or so.  The smaller sides we cut the plastic to size and attached it on the top of the structure.  The rest of it we rolled up and left it up top, waiting to be rolled down and tacked on the eve of an impending front.  !/2 of the roof we covered semi permanently with the plastic sheeting, and the other half with an agricultural frost cloth, rolled up , waiting to be tacked down the eve of a cold front.

Inside the structure we placed a rain barrel full of water, heated by two aquarium heaters. 

So there it is. 

Would I do it again?  Maybe, maybe not.  It was a lot of work, cost me about 200$ total, I have no idea how long it will last, and I have no idea if it will work well or not.

Time will tell ..












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Amazingly, yesterday during a quick walk around my yard, I spotted what looked
like a Breadfruit female flower or fruit on my less than 2 year old Ma'Afala
breadfruit tree.

Today, when I got a chance to go really inspect it, I was again in near
disbelief as I found 4 female flowers vs fruit and 1 male !

In January, in Florida, planted in ground, no protection.

Any advice regarding pollination would be greatly appreciated.  Thinking about
getting a paintbrush out to try and get some of the male pollen onto the
females. 

Also, anyone know if these are fruit or flower at this point?  One is much
larger than the others, about the size of a quarter.

Pics:







Male and female flower in the following photo..







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / December Guanabana S.Fla
« on: December 21, 2013, 09:51:06 AM »
I figured I would share a photo of this Guanabana I picked this morning.  It has been an unusually warm fall, and my Guanabana tree is obviously happy about that !

After 7 or 8 years off and producing nothing, my Guanabana tree finally has come back into production , and in 2 waves.  A summer and a winter crop.



The tree produced about 6 of these nice sized fruit in Nov-Dec.  I only was able to harvest 2, as the squirrel population has exploded and they take out almost anything they can sink their teeth into ..

The carambola are Kary, in the photo for size perspective.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My 18 mo breadfruit is flowering S. Fla
« on: October 09, 2013, 06:21:48 PM »
I am amazed at what I found in my yard today.  My 18 month old in ground Ma-afala breadfruit tree has a flower on it.

Check it out !














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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bangkok Lemon Seedling Jackfruit
« on: August 31, 2013, 10:20:33 AM »
I thought I would share some pictures of my Bangkok Lemon Seedling Jackfruit that I opened this morning. 








Weight was about 30 lbs. 

Texture is just about perfect.  Crispy but not too crunchy, thick fleshed and very juicy.  The flavor has a nice sweet and lemony character.  Distinct from other Jaks I have tried.  Not overpowering.  My only critique would be that it lacks the intensity to make it #1 for me.

Overall an excellent fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pineapple Pleasure vs others at Harry's
« on: May 19, 2013, 08:24:51 AM »
I stopped by Harry's place yesterday for a quick mango tasting.  I had 2 Pineapple Pleasure fruit that I had purchased from Walter Zill's place earlier in the week.  The fruit were large and quite green when purchased, and had sat on my countertop for 6 days. 






The PP was a meaty mango.  It was mostly green, with some yellowing at the shoulders.  It had some give to it, and upon cutting we felt that is was ripe.  It is a mango that has a lot of flavor, very much like pineapple, with a touch of "chalkiness".  Harry seemed to really enjoy it and was impressed. I'll let him give a more detailed evaluation from his point of view, but he definitely liked it enough to want to grow it.  For me, it was a little lacking in sweetness, and maybe too much tart.  But that just shows differences in palate. Maybe a later season one would have more sweetness and bump it up for me.  Same mango, different ranking, again illustrating the "try before you buy" theory when it comes to mango tree planting.

We had a pretty nice selection to compare the PP to after a trip around the yard collecting.  Some of the other players included were PPK, Maha Chanok, Edward, Angie, NDM, Okrung, Khun See, Florigon, Pina Colada and more that I cant recall at the moment.
                                                                                     






For me the winner of the day was ..... tied for 1st .... PPK and Maha Chanok. 

Couple of additional notes:  On friday, I ate a Valcarrie that I had also picked up from Zill's.  It was superb. Rich and very sweet with a texture that I am quite fond of.  I have to say that it one of my favorite mango's, as good or better than I had remembered.  I need to plant an entire tree or get some budwood ASAP.

Also of interest was the Angie.  Normally one of my favorite all time mango's  .... Thought it was awful yesterday.  We tried 3 and I thought one of them was so bad I actually spit it out.  Don't know what was going on there.  I'll keep it in my list of top cultivars, but wow, weird.
                                                                                       

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Custard Apple ?
« on: April 18, 2013, 08:37:21 AM »
So, this is a custard apple right? 

Taste is OK, IMO.   Not really sweet enough for me.  Flesh has a nice creamy texture and seed count is low.  A few years ago a Jamaican friend tried one and she said it was very good. 

 








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My Guanabana finally holding fruit
« on: April 13, 2013, 02:07:02 PM »
In 2004, this tree fruited heavily.  I didn't know anything about the fruit at the time, and the tree had been planted by my home's previous owner.  In 2005, the tree took a hit from Hurricane Wilma, and it has not fruited since.  Every year I have waited impatiently to give this fruit another try, and every year, nothing ..

The tree is competing for sunlight with my neighbors wildly overgrown 30ft high ficus hedge.  The darn hedge is just an unrelenting beast.  This year however, that hedge has been thinned quite a bit by whitefly  ... Maybe that has contributed to this seasons success. I have given the tree a bit more attention this year as well.

Anyway,  now after 8 long years, it seems as though it will produce a reasonable crop!

Photos are from this afternoon, and as you can see there are fruits in various degrees of development.   Cant wait to try them  :)



















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There is some difficulty, especially with new tree owners, on how to identify a female Jackfruit flower.  I originally was a tad bit frustrated on my inability to identify female vs male flowers on my first Jackfruit tree.  Over time, I have learned how to identify the male vs female flowers with relative ease on my Bangkok Lemon ( seedling?) Jackfruit tree.  It wasn't easy though when I was inexperienced with the tree. 

Now I have a second tree fruiting.  It is a seedling from a Jak I purchased at Robert is Here ( Black Gold?) a few years ago.  The female flowers on this tree have a different physical appearance than my BL (S?) tree. 

 We know that females are more likely to be produced on thick stalks originating near a major limb or trunk.  They also tend to have a "ring" around the neck of the flower.  But males can also have these traits, depending on variety and maturity of the tree.
 
I am currently attempting to cross hand pollinate these two varieties in hopes of producing fruit with the highest fruit to rag content. 

Maybe we should fill this thread with female flowers of different varieties.  It might help those who are having difficulty in identifying flowers.


Bangkok Lemon (seedling?) Female Flower in the receptive stage.  You can see the transition from stem to fruit is fairly gradual.




Now compare that to this Female Flower ( receptive) on my BG-S tree.  Notice how abrupt the transition collar from stem to fruit is.






It is not so easy to see in the photo, but the BG-S Females have a very distinct lip at the stem/fruit transition.  Nearly impossible to miss when seen in person.  Much different than the males.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My in ground Ma'afala breadfruit
« on: January 01, 2013, 12:59:04 PM »
I purchased this Ma'afala breadfruit earlier this year from Pine Island in a 3 gallon.  I knew it was doubtful that it would make it through our south florida winter, but so far so good.  I have given it no cold protection, and I don't plan on doing so... Very little cold damage thus far..







Thoughts?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Jackfruit leaves look like Mango leaves
« on: January 01, 2013, 12:52:56 PM »
I planted out few jackfruit seeds intending to use them for future rootstock.  I believe these seeds were from Harrys Mai 1 seedling.  That would make them mai 1 S2 I suppose?  Anyway, some of the seedlings had a totally normal appearance for Jackfruit leaves.  But some others looked very unique to me.  Almost like a mango leaf.  Since I have never seen this before, i found a little space to put them in the ground.

Has anyone else seen Jackfruit leaves like this?  If it is common I wont keep them going in ground since my space is limited ...





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My dog died from eating a mango seed.
« on: December 11, 2012, 04:48:46 PM »
Hello all,

Just wanted to give a heads up to those with dogs.  My 85lb Cane Corso ( Italian Mastiff) has always eaten an occasional mango.  Sometimes she would eat the seed, but always had regurgitated the seed, no harm done.  We have not had mango's around for a couple of months, so she most likely picked up and swallowed an old and dried up seed.  There is also a remote possibility she had eaten a fresh mango a while back, the seed sat in her stomach for some time, and just recently traveled to the intestine.

The seed ended up perforating her small bowel. 

Anyway, just thought I would get the word out.  I will always from this point on discourage my dogs from having any interest in mangos.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pakistani Mulberry
« on: October 17, 2012, 03:30:58 PM »
My Pakistani Mulberry tree is putting out a few berries right now ... I thought it was a springtime only bearer, so this was a nice surprise :)







They are really tasty.  My favorite berry.

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