Im getting ready to graft mangoes for the first time from budwood I got from JF (thanks). I'm not completely new to grafting, Ive done apples, plums, and peaches, but i usually stick to the brutally effective cleft graft. After reading this forum and watching tons of youtube videos im thinking of using a side cleft graft or a veneer graft.

The problem from my point is its hard to tell from the videos what is the difference between the cut on the rootstock between both techniques.
 Can anyone with knowledge of both, techniques detail what are the differences, if any?

Which technique would be more successful for a first time mango grafter? What kind of success, if any can I expect?

Thanks.

I always assumed that mangoes were an impossible fruit to grow in my climate. So I resigned myself to buying them from the super market. I then stubled upon a thread on gardenweb from 2005 and began dreaming with having my own tree. Then i started paying attentention as to what the people around my home grew in their yards. I was surprised to see mango trees being successfully grown in my area.

 I decided to buy a mango tree. Searching around i found champa nursery which had the mango variety mallika which sounded amazing. Unfortunately, the tree was plagued with lack of vigor and was constantly trying to flower. It just died. My hopes dashed, i just  pulled it out and moved on.

Months later I came across this forum and read lots of threads which described the problem I had with my mango tree. The tree was indeed on turpentine rootstock. I decided to heed the wisdom of those on this forum who successfully grow mangoes in southern california and buy 2seedling manila mango trees .

Im hoping that with help from this forum i will be able to become a successful southern california mango grower.

This tree was purchased from champa $25

















This one was obtained from lowes $25












The measurements were taken from soil line of the container.

I want fruiting bushy type tree. At which height should i pug the tree when i put one in the ground? How about the one that i put in a large container?

Any help is appreciated. Thank you.