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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / searching for chironja seeds
« on: March 28, 2015, 02:28:38 PM »
I've wanted to try growing chironjas for a long time -- now my wife and I are spending some months at her farm in Thailand, and I'll be able to take care of seeds.  If anyone is growing this plant, and feels up to mailing me 10-15 seeds, I'd be happy to repay them with money, traded seeds, or both.

We'll be there in about a month.  PM me if this might be a possibility for you.

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Questions for the banana people -- my Thai mother-in-law one time ate a red banana at a temple that she said was delicious.  Visiting here in Canada we found red bananas in a store and bought them; they sucked.  Any thoughts as to what the Thai red banana might be called, and where we could find one?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Question about IDing plants
« on: July 28, 2014, 11:31:32 AM »
OK, this is my situation -- for the past year I've been ordering seeds and having them sent to my Thai in-laws to plant.  Because of the state of the Thai mail system, and the fact that some were sent express and some were sent regular, and my in-laws don't read English and would just plant them without bothering to tell me, I have no knowledge at all of what has actually arrived.  These are the possibilities:

1)  tree tomato
2)  abiu
3)  Rollinia
4)  custard apple (red variety)
5)  cupuassu
6)  black sapote
7)  green sapote

Before I go back I'm going to google images of seedlings of these to try and figure out which is which -- my question is this, are there any here that are going to be tricky to tell apart?  I have no talent at all at plant identification, and am just throwing this out for anyone who wants to comment . . .  To me a lot of tropical plants look pretty similar . . . 

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I've become interested in trying to grow a marang -- it would be in NE Thailand, a dry tropical environment, humid and hot but nowhere near as constantly as closer to the equator.  Does anyone have any experience trying this?  I'm curious about the following questions:

- is it worth while to search out grafted plants, or are seedlings fine?
- any varieties to recommend, either for taste or climate?
- any pollination issues?
- are the seeds durable enough to survive a month in transit, or does it have to be faster?

Sorry if these are basic questions -- I'd rather hear from people's experience, than trust Google.  Any thoughts at all are welcome. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / yellow-fleshed rambutans
« on: May 15, 2014, 11:41:13 PM »
Anyone know anything about the yellow-fleshed rambutan my wife found a picture of in Kanchanaburi?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / jaboticaba hybridization
« on: May 12, 2014, 10:39:15 PM »
Basic jabo question -- is there any reason not to try and jam two or three species of jaboticaba together into a 2+ acre plot?  Will they all hybridize with each other and produce useless seeds?  Or do they remain distinct?  I'd like to use some of the seeds from mature trees to plant larger numbers elsewhere.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / root pouch bags
« on: May 09, 2014, 04:39:29 PM »
Has anyone tried using these?  I'm curious if they will hold up for one to two years in a tropical climate, and then really degrade decently after planting.  I need something that will last for at least 9 months, and won't disintegrate in a rainy season, nor bond with the clay beneath it.  Any experience?

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/root-pouch-grey-fabric-pot-3-4-year/biodegradable-pots

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Lychees splitting
« on: May 02, 2014, 01:50:06 AM »
What causes unripe lychees to split?  Is there anything I can do to prevent this?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado grafting
« on: April 26, 2014, 09:13:44 PM »
I've been reading about Hawaiian avocados, trying to sort a few things out before making an effort to getting some high quality varieties in Thailand, and I have a question for people who know more than I do.  A few weeks back it was widely recommended that I grow seedlings there and then order budwood, instead of pre-grafted trees, but this was more of a general question; and from what I read about avocados, it sounds like this is more difficult, and that grafting them is not straightforward.  At the same time, reading about the Hawaiian varieties has made me determined to obtain them . . .  Is this a situation where trying to order small trees from a nursery might be worthwhile?

For the record, the varieties I'm looking for are:  Sharwil, Malama, Linda, Kahaluu, Murashiges, Yamagata

Any thoughts are welcome, or experiences people have had either grafting or ordering from nurseries.  Bear in mind that I have no experience at all with grafting . . .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Breadfruit, mosquitoes, and the USDA blog
« on: April 22, 2014, 04:41:10 PM »
Apparently burning breadfruit flowers repels mosquitoes . . .  anyone who's interested, check out the USDA blog!  I'm impressed that they managed to get any kind of social media at all up and running, given that everything they put out probably has to go through several layers of confirmation, checking, rechecking, and rewriting in 'officialese' . . .

http://blogs.usda.gov/2013/11/19/breadfruit-bad-news-for-mosquitoes/ 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / report on global banana plague
« on: April 19, 2014, 01:29:15 PM »
I'm sure this isn't news to many people here, but I thought I'd put in a link to a good article on it.  It's the first I've heard of it:

http://qz.com/164029/tropical-race-4-global-banana-industry-is-killing-the-worlds-favorite-fruit/ 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Breadnut seeds vs. jackfruit seeds
« on: April 12, 2014, 10:57:33 PM »
Has anyone ever compared seeds of Artocarpus camansi (breadnut) with jackfruit seeds?  They look pretty similar, the trees are closely related, they're both eaten after boiling with salt, and my wife says not to waste my time with the former as she wants to plant jackfruit.  Is there any practical purpose in going to the trouble of searching out breadnut and devoting a bit of space to it? 

P.S. I just want to say that I must be going senile, I typed 'breadfruit' two times in this post and had to correct multiple spelling mistakes after posting.  Apparently growing old was an error.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cherimoya climatic requirements
« on: April 10, 2014, 06:21:07 PM »
OK, everyone ignored my question about pecans and chill requirements, that's OK . . .  not everyone cares about pecans . . .  However, I know that you all do care about chermioyas, and know a little something about them as well.  Here is my question -- given the following facts:

- the chill requirement for cherimoyas is 50-100 hours
- 'chill requirement' seems to be a technical term that means above freezing but below 13 C (55F)
- there seems to be a general consensus that cherimoyas don't do very well in South Florida

Is the requirement that there be a certain level of chilling AND summer temperatures that aren't excessive?  Where I live in Thailand, we'll normally have 50-100 hours of the above level of chilling (but not all at once, on consecutive nights) each year; but then the hot season gets up to ~41C.  Any point at all in planting cherimoyas there?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pecans
« on: April 08, 2014, 10:00:33 AM »
This is a question for the Hawaiians -- how low down can you grow pecans, there?  Will they flower and fruit in full-on tropical conditions?

I've been trying to estimate if the climate along the Mekong will permit these to grow.  Low-chill pecan varieties need ~250 hours below 13C a year; where I live, there are ~30-45 days per year when the maximum low temperature is 13 or below -- so I would probably get around 60%-80% of the chilling requirement, depending on variation.  Then there are of course many more hours that come close to that, which a couple of sources say helps as well.  Anyone with experience?

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I haven't been able to find any -- should I give up and have them shipped to myself in the States and carry them onto a plane?  Anyone have any experience with this?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / White sapote cultivars
« on: April 01, 2014, 11:51:01 AM »
I just wanted to revive the discussion of white sapotes from a bit back.  It basically ended with Oscar talking about how a superior white sapote is an awesome fruit -- but neither he nor anyone else got into which varieties are best.  I'm going to try and find a couple of grafted trees -- and I'd love to know what kinds I should really look for (particularly for a planting site that has an extensive dry season).

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Wanted: grafted black sapote
« on: March 30, 2014, 10:21:13 PM »
OK, my last post about a bare-root black sapote graft received no input . . .  So now let me ask, where can I buy a rooted black sapote?  I suppose it would be preferable if it was in some kind of light moss or sterile potting soil -- any suggestions?  I need a small tree, one that can be wrapped easily and not stimulate a lot of interest at customs.

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The headline says it all -- I'd like a grafted black sapote that can be shipped in a bare-root form.  Anyone know a nursery that sells recognized cultivars in this form?  I don't have an opinion about which cultivar, but I would prefer one that has been developed for taste more than size, durability, or production.

Just modified it a bit -- not sure if a grafted tree should be called a seedling.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What you lose in the tropics
« on: March 25, 2014, 04:24:55 PM »
In general, I love gardening in the tropics.  I love the fact that it is year-round and there's always something coming into fruit; I love that you don't have to stop for winter and spring, and stare at your barren, snow-covered orchard (I hate that I live in Alberta now).  I love the fruits -- mangoes, lynchees, mangosteens, and dragon fruits are awesome, and I hope that abiu, biriba, and jaboticaba join the list.  But there are three things that I specifically hate:

- no persimmons, especially the deep red kind shaped like a huge bell pepper
- no apples
- no peaches

And I'm curious, off my own topic, does anyone here grow pecans in a completely tropical environment?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / How to cook breadfruit?
« on: March 05, 2014, 11:46:17 AM »
My breadfruit tree in Thailand is fruiting spectacularly while I'm stuck in Alberta -- and my in-laws are throwing them out because they don't know what to do with them.  I need a couple suggestions for simple breadfruit recipes -- maybe roasting might be better than boiling . . .  thoughts?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / tropical horticulture
« on: February 28, 2014, 02:23:27 PM »
I lived in Thailand for several years, and then spent time in Micronesia -- I saw the difference between a grain-based agriculture and a tree-based agriculture (breadfruit), even though the island economy isn't subsistence level anymore and most people didn't actually depend on breadfruit.  Then years later I read Morton's book and became interested in the pejibaye; and a couple years after that read 1491, which described how the Spanish didn't fully recognize Amazonian and equatorial agriculture, because it was mostly fruit-based.

For some time I've been wondering if there might be horticultural combinations of Old and New World trees that could equal the value of rice farming.  The great virtue of rice is that it stores so well, and can be productive on a small parcel of land; its drawbacks are the labour and the dependence on water control.  In Thailand the people who make money from rice are middlemen and exporters, never the farmers themselves; and there is no fruit crop that earns more money than rice per acre (at least according to the farmers).  So my question is really just if there could be a combination of trees that could provide a subsistence diet superior to rice?  Is it worth it for rice farmers to work so hard for a few hundred bucks  (and sometimes nothing)?

Thinking about this in the most superficial way, I've come up with three trees that might work well in combination:
     - breadfruit (productive carbohydrates, can have extensive fruiting seasons)
     - pejibaye (less productive, but contains more fat and protein and other nutrients)
     - avocado (dietary fat)

Thoughts?

P.S. -- here's a ref on the pejibaye, I love the FAOs 'neglected crops' series.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/T0646E/T0646E0l.htm

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Julia Morton
« on: February 27, 2014, 01:38:24 PM »
I'm curious to know if there is a modern consensus on Julia Morton's classic book on tropical fruit?  It is still really the only reference that I've ever had -- I found it when my wife and I bought a few acres in Thailand, and I've used it to decide what to try and grow.  It's the reason that I have pejibayes that are almost ready to fruit, tried to grow black sapotes, planted an extremely fruitful Rangpur orange, and many, many others.  It's also the reason why I didn't think to try a green sapote until today (she doesn't emphasize this fruit), why I've never even thought of trying to grow alternate durian species (no mention of them, I think), and same with all the non-mangosteen garcinias. 

I loved Morton's book and read and re-read it -- it's probably caused me to be a bit obsessive about out-of-date cultivars, and I liked some of the ridiculous little trivia bits from a vanished world:  Chinese people walking around holding a Buddha's hand citron for its fragrance, the weird, varied uses she would say wood could be put towards, and all that.  It obviously came from a time when things really were still local, and you had to go somewhere and get it yourself if you wanted it. 

If people were to recommend another tropical fruit reference, what would it be?

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This is a question for anyone who is familiar with the pejibaye research on Hawaii, Peruvian varieties, or anything to do with the development of the fruit.  This video (link below) shows a landrace that is clearly macrocarp, and completely thornless.  I've planted two accessions I received from the research facility on Hawaii, which are 100% heavily thorned, and haven't fruited yet; but they come from a landrace somewhere in Amazonian Peru/western Brazilian Amazon.  I was struck in this video by how much larger the pejibayes on these trees look than those I've seen elsewhere.  Two questions.

1)  How do these compare with the varieties being researched on Hawaii?

2)  Does anyone know where I can find seeds of this type, heavily macrocarp but also spineless?

Pijuayo Bactris gasipaes

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I've planted two local pomegranates and they are producing fruit -- but Thai pomegranates are particularly lousy . . .  Does anyone have any suggestions how I can get budwood of a 'Wonderful' or a 'Granada' or a Mexican variety?  Can budwood survive a two-week journey (if lucky) by mail?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Peculiar lime wanted
« on: January 25, 2014, 11:52:24 AM »
I have a question -- my wife and I lived on Saipan in the Northern Mariana Islands for several years.  While there, we ate a peculiar tangerine that was different from any I've seen elsewhere:  it had a loose peel that came off easily, very few seeds, and a bit of a watery flavour.  I found a couple pictures on the Internet of what it looked like, and have sometimes wondered if it was what Morton calls an Otaheite Rangpur (or lime) or a kusiae lime.  This type rarely had seeds.  Any thoughts?






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