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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zills top tier Mango Sugar Loaf
« on: December 07, 2018, 11:10:48 AM »
Limited amount grafted and very young trees 

When Frog said they were released I called my local Zill distributor and he wasn’t finished unloading the truck befor I got there

Second place imango i tasted in 2018 after LZ

You  snooze you lose.  I am looking to solid LZ production this coming year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nishikawa Avocado - Aloha & Mahalo
« on: December 07, 2018, 11:02:06 AM »
I don't have any nishikawa but Japanese are smart plant breeders so it must be worth planting. Can someone see how long nishikawa avocado has been around? My guess is 25-30 years so it has a track record that is not well known on the internet. Spaugh was correct in tripling down on his nishi plantings to see what pans out. Not all fruit trees of a given variety are equal. Some are strong and some are weak. I see this on my "estate"

I planted three lula and only one is really very much flourishing/ I bought it in Home Depot in Sunrise FL in 15 gallon...$84 but it was worth it. Avocado trees are more finicky than mango by a long shot/ Have a brogdan too. No nishikawa/

Wasn't really bred by professional plant breeders, but by Kona coffee farmers. During beginning of the century most of the farmers here were Japanese. They selected choice types from hundreds of seedlings planted. That is why most of the old Hawaii avocado cultivars have Japanese names.
BTW, in this pamphlet from Hawaii tropical agriculture college, the Nishikawa, from possible ratings of excellent, very good, and good, is only given a good rating:
https://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/F_N-1.pdf


Many thanks for your accounting on the Nishikawa and its history in Hawaii.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where can I get a Tice Mulberry?
« on: December 05, 2018, 11:53:06 AM »
I see on permaculture forums that they like mulberry trees for their chickens. Chickens feast on the mulberry drops and on the insects that come to eat the mulberry drops.

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Meyer lemon would be a different story, it's quite expensive to buy at the store so I want to grow it if it fits into my grow area.

I snagged mine at Lowes three week ago. One gallon, looking very good for $14. There were 2 Meyer Lemons, other lemons and limes and lots of calomondin. Any Lowe's you drive by go in and see what they have. Or wait until
 the big spring gardening push when Lowe's gets lots of fruit tree and muscadines, guava, banana, citrus deliveries in one gallon size.

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I'm thinking of growing Meyer lemon, Kaffir and Calamnsi ...

You mean calomondin as seen in So Flo...decorative but non edible. Kaffir lime seems non-edible too. Look at its wikipedia entry.
Meyer Lemon...highly edible and trendy. I hear it is like a milder lemon and less acidic. I have one ready to container culture next spring.

Calomondin looks very nice with its little fruits but the fruits are way too sour. All citrus was originally small and sour and was bred over centuries to get sweet and large oragndes, grapefruits etc.


WIKI-
Calamondin, also known as calamansi, is an economically-important citrus hybrid predominantly cultivated in the Philippines. It is native to the Philippines and surrounding areas in southern China, Taiwan, Borneo, and Sulawesi. Calamondin is ubiquitous in traditional Filipino cuisine. It is used in various condiments, beverages, dishes, marinades, and preserves. Calamondin is also used as ingredients in the cuisines of Malaysia and Indonesia.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nishikawa Avocado - Aloha & Mahalo
« on: December 03, 2018, 05:13:03 AM »
I don't have any nishikawa but Japanese are smart plant breeders so it must be worth planting. Can someone see how long nishikawa avocado has been around? My guess is 25-30 years so it has a track record that is not well known on the internet. Spaugh was correct in tripling down on his nishi plantings to see what pans out. Not all fruit trees of a given variety are equal. Some are strong and some are weak. I see this on my "estate"

I planted three lula and only one is really very much flourishing/ I bought it in Home Depot in Sunrise FL in 15 gallon...$84 but it was worth it. Avocado trees are more finicky than mango by a long shot/ Have a brogdan too. No nishikawa/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2019 Mango season (Florida) flower stimuli
« on: December 01, 2018, 03:00:48 AM »
We have drier than last year.  I can tell by my lawn which  looks  60% more thirsty than last year at this time.  Looks to me like a cold winter this year with above average mango production in 2019 in South Florida East and West.

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1) Mango
2) Pommerac (Malay Apple)
3) Banana
4) Sapodilla
5) Governer Plum (Hog Plum)

Honourable mention: Portugal (Trinidad Clementine)

Wow. I can't believe I've been here over 6yrs now. My top 5 favorite fruits have definitely changed.

1) Mango (Sweet Tart)
2) Mulberries (Tice, FL Giant/Giant, Shangrila)
3) Jaboticaba (gorgeous, amazing, delicious. All hail the Red Jabotocaba)
4) Home grown bananas (Raja Puri)
5) Sapodillas

You came here four years ago for a big sweet tart reveal and tasting. The first time you ate one as your ST tree was still growing.  Hope all is well with your orchard projects.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Walmart mango sighting
« on: December 01, 2018, 02:47:41 AM »
Manilitas and wild mangos season are starting in Yucatán



Bender at his grove in Davie FL has a manilita tree. I took the last one off that tree a few years ago. Delicious. Watch out for those small mangoes. They can be superior.  Manilita is semi wild in my book.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Walmart mango sighting
« on: November 27, 2018, 04:59:55 PM »
If you are in South Florida area, go to Foodtown. I went there 2 weeks ago and they have Nam Doc Mai, as well as Yellow Dragon Fruit ($4.99/lb). The Yellow Dragon Fruit is very very sweet. The Nam Doc Mai tasted great we well, I forgot the price of the Nam Doc Mai, but I remember is was cheap.

Thanks for the foodtown tip. If one was closeby I would go. Nearest is 12 miles away. Nam Doc Mai sounds interesting.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Walmart mango sighting
« on: November 26, 2018, 05:32:45 PM »
In Walmart last weekend there were mangoes going 2 for a dollar. Really colorful red ones and medium large size......looking really nice. I picked one up and squinted at the label. Ecuador it said. The mangoes were rock hard. I wonder what it looked like inside but I decided not so spend 50¢ to find out

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to get best deal on 0-0-50
« on: October 28, 2018, 02:46:15 AM »
Yes, buy the  0-3-16 plus micros from Har or Truly tropicals.

If you are dead set on 0-0-50, Helena chemicals,$26.50 a 50 lbs bag is what I paid. They sell it in a few different forms. Ask for the mini, which is granular.

Thanks for the Helena reference. I finally got around to stopping by their Boynton Beach location and opening an account. They did not have the mini in-stock and couldn't source it from their other locations. I ended up with their "Greens Grade" shown below. It was $25.00/bag. How does the grain size compare to the mini?





Dang!  I got robbed at 38 dollars per bag at Universal....... That green grade might be slightly smaller than what I got. But sure looks granular meaning not quick dissolve which is white.......I would hold off on applying until early spring/ Like February first

Made by Vogel in Wisconsin. You can call them up got more info. To be applied with a spreader on greens like golf courses.... No it is not quick dissolve type of potassium sulfate for fertigation.

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Last Keitt's came off my tree on October 15....a few years back the last date was October 10th

How about the friends tree at the pond? Doesn't it still have Keitts?

As long as I or the animals/hurricanes/bugs don't pick mine, I have consistently had Keitts until November. This year is no exception and I already picked one today. I intentionally leave enough for 1+ a day picking till November. The + is for the animals/ or bugs. If I see a crack, I immediately pick it to avoid bug invasion. I presently have 20+ on a few different trees... Maybe a few more...  :P ... gotta get my daily mango fix.

November is great. Amazing. My friend's keitt by the pond was knocked down by the hurricane in 2017. He should have  stayed loyal to it because it was recovering and sprouting new growth. Instead he planted two new mango trees.

And his huge old Keitt...the stump is still there and putting out limited sprouts. The sprouts looked lots better last Spring before he mostly dug it out.

His Keitt tree had August into Mid September fruits

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Last Keitt's came off my tree on October 15....a few years back the last date was October 10th

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: October 24, 2018, 09:15:03 AM »
simon_grow  and JF  ----  My LZ tree is  looking great n healthy right now. I think I am too far away from masses of other peoples mango trees for my LZ tree to pick up these problems. In other words, where I live there are some mango trees but nearly as many as in Cookie Monster's neighborhood (2 miles from me) which is one of the most dense for backyard mango trees.

My lazy bet is that in California your LZ trees will continue to thrive. Three thousand miles away from Florida
 LZ tree "issues".  But now you have to propagate your LZ trees due to Zill not grafting them anymore. Probably because they got worried about whatever has been hurting LZ trees might spread throughout Zill ops.

I love what you guys have done with Manila rootstock!

Simon - very nice orange color on your sweet tarts. The way it should be. I prefer ripe and sweet as opposed to slightly under ripe and tart.

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smartdriver  -  I would never grow vegetables in iffy contaminated soil with lead etc in it?
Growing fruit trees in such soil is not nearly as perilous. I doubt that much of the "crap" ends up in the fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I am taking out my citrus trees in Miami.
« on: September 23, 2018, 05:21:29 PM »
You only have to apply it once a year. I would recommend doing it immediately after bloom. Reason is we don’t want honeybees to pick up any of the toxins. I can post some before and after pictures if you like. My growth from the spring before treatment is devastated. But after treatment all of my new growth looks excellent and I’m very encouraged.

It would be great to see some photos....thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: September 19, 2018, 11:34:56 AM »
PALMCITY- Going along with your ratings of IMO Excellant: Carrie

my number one mango tree was Carrie. Great yield this year maybe 170 fruits.  It is in my front yard and excites all mango hounds including me. One guy liked it so much I could not believe it . He climbed the tree a bit and scoped out the last one that fell and was lodged between two branches. He is from Bangladesh.  My other major Carrie fans are from Egypt, Puerto Rico, Jamaica.

If you think your buyers will be from India/Pakistan/Bangladeshi Carrie is a must tree. Carrie has an established reputation within the sub-continent community in the US.
Do you have Angie, too?  If so, do you find it to be similar to Carrie in flavor, as several forum members have stated?


I don't have Angie tree. With all the rains my Carrie fruit were mild this year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: September 18, 2018, 06:59:54 PM »
PALMCITY- Going along with your ratings of IMO Excellant: Carrie

my number one mango tree was Carrie. Great yield this year maybe 170 fruits.  It is in my front yard and excites all mango hounds including me. One guy liked it so much I could not believe it . He climbed the tree a bit and scoped out the last one that fell and was lodged between two branches. He is from Bangladesh.  My other major Carrie fans are from Egypt, Puerto Rico, Jamaica.

If you think your buyers will be from India/Pakistan/Bangladeshi Carrie is a must tree. Carrie has an established reputation within the sub-continent community in the US.

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Aldi is very sensitive to demand and supply on produce. They are big and want to be a bigger player so at least in South Florida they swing  Mexican grown Hass here on sale for 49¢  each. They may make no profit on these.

Looks like Keitt overload time in LA region so get the best.

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Forget the flavor bomb mangoes. Even the old Florida type mangoes from backyards taste 200% better than store bought. Same must apply to backyard "grown from seed" in California and the thousands of mystery Manila mango trees in the LA region......Imported mangoes are simply picked under ripe (like pears apples etc) and the hope is that by the time it gets to the consumer it is acceptable.

You need a friend with a backyard mango tree. Someone came by today and we got 14 mangoes off my Keitt tree for him and family. Has five children.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help identifying a mango variety
« on: September 14, 2018, 07:57:45 AM »
Came across tiny looking mangos at the store here in San Diego.  The mangos looked to be around 2-3 inches in length and they looked like tiny manila mangos. I asked what the name for the mangos were but they simply told me they were niños mangos. Wondering if anyone here might know the variety.

They were from a local tree? Not imported? People like to give names to mango trees they grow from seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Banana seeds are tough.
« on: September 14, 2018, 07:55:23 AM »
Very nice decorative banana plant for inside your house. I suppose it gets outside during the warm months.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« on: September 14, 2018, 07:53:26 AM »
Yah, JF you should graft out a tree and eval it.

Best to evaluate the budwood grown out before concluding it is unique. ST is know to vary considerably in size. Sometimes they are fist sized, others are like small melons.
Jeff
I grafted onto to a Manila rootstock I have here . I’ve seem large St in my trees as Aboyami mentions but never a 1 kilo it looks like a harvest moon

You might get unique size ST or you might get  "regression to the mean"   Look that up if you have not heard this expression.  Odds are regression but for sure your graft is worth a try.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What caused this Longan to die?
« on: September 12, 2018, 07:31:44 PM »
Nasty!  Never seen a sudden shedding like that. I would most definitely not cut it down. It might come back next spring....... Next spring if you see confirmed dead wood I would lop it off. Maybe some live wood too.

Maybe the tree had a nervous breakdown from carrying too many longans. No blame on you. The tree was just too stressed out from carrying. Then in 2019 it has the strength to carry lots of fruits.

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