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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: September 19, 2018, 11:34:56 AM »
PALMCITY- Going along with your ratings of IMO Excellant: Carrie

my number one mango tree was Carrie. Great yield this year maybe 170 fruits.  It is in my front yard and excites all mango hounds including me. One guy liked it so much I could not believe it . He climbed the tree a bit and scoped out the last one that fell and was lodged between two branches. He is from Bangladesh.  My other major Carrie fans are from Egypt, Puerto Rico, Jamaica.

If you think your buyers will be from India/Pakistan/Bangladeshi Carrie is a must tree. Carrie has an established reputation within the sub-continent community in the US.
Do you have Angie, too?  If so, do you find it to be similar to Carrie in flavor, as several forum members have stated?


I don't have Angie tree. With all the rains my Carrie fruit were mild this year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: September 18, 2018, 06:59:54 PM »
PALMCITY- Going along with your ratings of IMO Excellant: Carrie

my number one mango tree was Carrie. Great yield this year maybe 170 fruits.  It is in my front yard and excites all mango hounds including me. One guy liked it so much I could not believe it . He climbed the tree a bit and scoped out the last one that fell and was lodged between two branches. He is from Bangladesh.  My other major Carrie fans are from Egypt, Puerto Rico, Jamaica.

If you think your buyers will be from India/Pakistan/Bangladeshi Carrie is a must tree. Carrie has an established reputation within the sub-continent community in the US.

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Aldi is very sensitive to demand and supply on produce. They are big and want to be a bigger player so at least in South Florida they swing  Mexican grown Hass here on sale for 49Ę  each. They may make no profit on these.

Looks like Keitt overload time in LA region so get the best.

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Forget the flavor bomb mangoes. Even the old Florida type mangoes from backyards taste 200% better than store bought. Same must apply to backyard "grown from seed" in California and the thousands of mystery Manila mango trees in the LA region......Imported mangoes are simply picked under ripe (like pears apples etc) and the hope is that by the time it gets to the consumer it is acceptable.

You need a friend with a backyard mango tree. Someone came by today and we got 14 mangoes off my Keitt tree for him and family. Has five children.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help identifying a mango variety
« on: September 14, 2018, 07:57:45 AM »
Came across tiny looking mangos at the store here in San Diego.  The mangos looked to be around 2-3 inches in length and they looked like tiny manila mangos. I asked what the name for the mangos were but they simply told me they were niŮos mangos. Wondering if anyone here might know the variety.

They were from a local tree? Not imported? People like to give names to mango trees they grow from seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Banana seeds are tough.
« on: September 14, 2018, 07:55:23 AM »
Very nice decorative banana plant for inside your house. I suppose it gets outside during the warm months.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« on: September 14, 2018, 07:53:26 AM »
Yah, JF you should graft out a tree and eval it.

Best to evaluate the budwood grown out before concluding it is unique. ST is know to vary considerably in size. Sometimes they are fist sized, others are like small melons.
Jeff
I grafted onto to a Manila rootstock I have here . Iíve seem large St in my trees as Aboyami mentions but never a 1 kilo it looks like a harvest moon

You might get unique size ST or you might get  "regression to the mean"   Look that up if you have not heard this expression.  Odds are regression but for sure your graft is worth a try.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What caused this Longan to die?
« on: September 12, 2018, 07:31:44 PM »
Nasty!  Never seen a sudden shedding like that. I would most definitely not cut it down. It might come back next spring....... Next spring if you see confirmed dead wood I would lop it off. Maybe some live wood too.

Maybe the tree had a nervous breakdown from carrying too many longans. No blame on you. The tree was just too stressed out from carrying. Then in 2019 it has the strength to carry lots of fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« on: September 11, 2018, 09:09:19 PM »
I first hand witnessed it last week and I told Frank that there is no way its sweet tart, then we chased the branch and it on same branch as others. it is a true sport.

Also, Frank, that Peach cobbler doesn't look like one as peach cobbler never turns yellow that much.

Zand, there are a lot of new varieties coming out of California in the coming yrs


Good to know and good luck. Your dry air and intense sun will be  major factors in being able to grow mangoes that would fail in humid Florida.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Excalibur or PIN for fruit trees?
« on: September 11, 2018, 02:07:56 PM »
Why mess around with peaches which my opinion are alien to south Florida and very hit or miss.

I never tried to grow peaches but my guess is you will have to spray w anti-fungals due to their thin skin

IMO peaches are definitely worth growing in FL.  I have grown several varieties which have quickly produced some incredibly delicious fruit.  If possible, Phillip Rucks is the place to get the best low-chill varieties with high quality rootstock designed for FL soils.  I've only had hole shot (bacterial) on one of my trees, never dealt with fungus.  They seem to grow very well and require little maintenance other than pruning.

I guess I was wrong. How about cherries?....low chill hours for Florida
Like you said....Lara is very close-by Pine Island

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« on: September 11, 2018, 02:05:36 PM »
Yikes! A monster ST. Never saw one that big. You must get a patent on it and get richer than the Zill ops
Congratulations!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Excalibur or PIN for fruit trees?
« on: September 10, 2018, 06:54:08 PM »
My limited experience w both....you can email Pine Island and get a good answer in a day or two and maybe phone too to confirm

Excalibur you can email but they are less email oriented. Might have to get the right person on the phone and explain how this is a long trip for you so you need infos in advance.

Why mess around with peaches which my opinion are alien to south Florida and very hit or miss. Especially when mangoes taste similar enough to peaches? Now if we could grow cherries here it would be worth a gamble. Mango skin is tough to resist the fungus we have ..... peaches...not so much. Same reason we can grow muscadine grapes but not "normal" grapes. The muscadine skin is thick and fungus resistant. With normal grapes if you get anything it will be only due to spraying anti-fungals and doing it just right

I never tried to grow peaches but my guess is you will have to spray w anti-fungals due to their thin skin

Of course Home Depot always has peach trees for sale each spring. But then they also sell tomato plants in the middle of summer when they will end up producing nothing

Z

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Thanks for posting this video!

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Ison muscadine. Mine are ripe right now. From the famous Ison muscadine nursery in Georgia. Pine Island seems to propagate them. If a nursery names it's top grape after itself then ....they must have a high opinion of it. Isons sells other muscadines too

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Ison+muscadine&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN

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Nice to see such a great comeback for your plants. Some plants and trees just refuse to be denied. Similar to Oscar having his plants trees come back after three months of being showered to by moist clouds of toxic volcanic gasses. Mostly SO2 I believe.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watermelon
« on: August 16, 2018, 10:27:49 AM »
Nice! Watermelon patch photos! You have the space to let the vines run.
Two days ago I bought a seedless one at Aldi for $3.20. It had  a label on it grown in Indiana. Watermelons must be a big business to ship them them 1100 miles and sending them south to Florida?? It was sweeter than others this summer. My guess is it weighed 16lbs.
For the last 6 weeks Aldi has been selling seedless for $3.00. Walmart was doing the same but more intermittently. The only seeded one I was able to buy this year was at Walmart.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dispute with neighbor about fertilizer
« on: August 15, 2018, 03:23:51 PM »
Is this person the type to spread malicious gossip about you as far as you causing the lake algae? Be careful because he/she might want to get others to gang up on you.
Seems like this person has been watching you with your trees. One solution is only fertilize at night and turn off exterior lighting.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Stolen fruit grrrr
« on: August 15, 2018, 10:20:00 AM »
When I get back in country I plan on calling the sheriff and the ag deptartment every time I see them in the neighborhood. Problem is they come during the day when people are away working. It was a fluke my wife was home with a migrane that she saw them in the first place.

Take out a digital camera and start taking photos and taping them. Crooks hate to be caught on camera plus you have something to show the Sheriff. Or take out yr smart phone and do the same

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watermelon
« on: August 15, 2018, 10:17:35 AM »
Great watermelon photos. Wish I had the space to grow them. I had a seed come up (volunteer) out of the mango tree mulch and it spread watermelon vines all over my lawn. I eventually got a non ripe 12" long watermelon. I juiced it

I always juice watermelon rind with my green power juicer.  Chill the juice and I am sure it would be good for mixed alcohol drinks.  These inferior effin seedless watermelons have so much rind that you are throwing away 33% of your purchase price if you don't put the rind to work. Some pickle it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What to do with neighbors roots
« on: August 14, 2018, 06:15:37 PM »
Maybe bury sheet metal as a barrier? I have a big ol piece you can have for free. About the size of the side of a large refrigerator.

Also what might work as a barrier is that plastic roofing fiberglass used in greenhouses. I don't know what it is called. I comes in corrugated too. Seen at Home Depot a while back

Just looked it up ------- Polycarbonate roofing panel. Might make good root barrier

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fruitlovers  --- glad it's over and hopefully for 50 years at least. You dodged the lava but I was worried when the air got foul to toxic where you are

zzzzzz

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: USPS irradiating packages?
« on: August 13, 2018, 02:49:46 PM »
Could be the summer heat killing trees also if left in a truck all day.
I agree. It still arrives looking nice but it was cooked in the truck. The semi-truck or on the way to an airplane. Left cooking on the tarmac. Maybe file a claim. $50 coverage on flat rate boxes.

Irradiation is doubtful to me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Terroir - The Next Frontier
« on: August 08, 2018, 03:58:30 PM »
Nothing wrong with trying to discuss terroir for mangoes. I am sure mango x grown in India will turn out different in Florida and California. But terroir will never be widely used to compare mangoes. The simple problem is that wines can be compared and discussed and given prizes because wines can be shipped. Mangoes are too perishable. Unless some organizations want to spend some millions of dollars on one day shipping across international borders to mango tasting events.

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I would add Gary and Valencia Pride for some Coconut taste.

Hereís a picture of my friends Honey Kiss crop grown in inland North County. This is a Honey Kiss graft on an 8 year old Manilla seedling with a large trunk.

My friend mentioned that in a side by side tasting with Sweet Tart, it was difficult to pick a winner.

Simon


Loaded and dripping the way all righteous mango trees should be.  Sorry to use phrase loaded and dripping a lot but that's just the way things are.

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OS no contest. PPK didnít even make the top 30 2018..... itís been a bad year

Really?  Chris at Truly Tropical sells 80 of the best varieties of Mangoes.  PPK is a top 5 seller for her every year (Carrie, Edward, Glenn & VP are the other 4). What people actually buy with their money is the best popular survey there is.     

Top selling does not make them the best.  Carrie is a huge seller in this area due to the large Indian population.


I got more first hand testimony about the Carrie reputation in Florida within the lets say extended "Indian" community/  This fellow is from Bangladesh so all part of the subcontinent. He knew all about Carrie mango and got many off my tree including the last one. He came by a month ago with their childen and some in-laws and were taking selfie type photos as the children were directed which ripe Carrie mango to give a pull to and take off the tree.

Today I asked him why he and family like mangoes (not just Carrie) so much. He said because they are like candy. This is literally what he said. I am a huge Carrie fan myself and for lack of better words....... I am white old school American, so there!

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