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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2019 SoCal Mango tasting
« on: October 13, 2019, 10:53:11 PM »
2020 - save me a seat!!
Go there. Mango growing and this includes stupid bad mangoes is too easy in FL.  No sarcasm!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2019 SoCal Mango tasting
« on: October 13, 2019, 10:47:01 PM »
Many extended and illustrated  posts from Simon. well done!

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Hello:

Just picked up an Orange Sherbet tree at a very good price. My question: how tall are these at mature size? Shall I expect the Orange Sherbet to grow to a 50' tree?

Thank you!

You are already committed and bought into a great variety, so plant now and hope for no winter freeze, though out on your island this is doubtful.

Hello Zands--

There is an enormous open space outside my work (with permission) where I had intended to plant it. When my wife began researching this variety and reading the rave reviews about it today, she suggested we keep it. Problem is that we already have many fruit trees on our property and available space would be limited to a tree with only a 10-12' canopy; certainly not a 40-50' monster.

Hi
I planted my OS two weeks ago and allowed for a 13-15 foot growth radius. My guess is this will take 8 years to fill in this radius. Plant an average mango tree at your place of work and plant OS where you live. At work your tree can be raided before the OS fruits are ripe

I planted my OS without reading anything here about its growing habits. I will just prune and tame it if necessary.  Astoundingly enough my new OS is planted 30 ft from my old school and Zill no longer grafts>>>> Lemon Zest. So now I have  orange and lemon mangoes in the same corridor.

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Hello:

Just picked up an Orange Sherbet tree at a very good price. My question: how tall are these at mature size? Shall I expect the Orange Sherbet to grow to a 50' tree?

Thank you!

You are already committed and bought into a great variety, so plant now and hope for no winter freeze, though out on your island this is doubtful.

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Thanks Joe and Ed for the replies and further information. My grafting has never turned out well but I will try with zip ties next year.

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Why would zip ties be better than clothes pins?  The pressure would be the same......... Anyways I have seen bags of them in the local 99˘ store and will take a look there and buy if I see them again.

Ed are you using more than one zip tie?

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We’ve had NDM mangos for many years but from Mexico.
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=32836.msg359592#msg359592
Good to know we’re going to be able to get them from Thailand as well.

If only we can get Florida Mangos shipped to the entire US.

Simon


We feel your mango love Simon. Thanks and I would never know or care about mangoes except that my (deceased) parents and their neighbors had mango trees and fruits when I visited about July 4th each year.. From Massachusetts.

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You don't have much to tip there. Wait until next year. You are at same latitude as Virginia in the USA where one could never grow mangoes outside. You have the warmth but less sunlight and fewer sunlight hours than mango growers in Miami, much closer to the equator.

Very nice looking tree with plenty of time to tip prune in 2020.

30 lat for me.  I tipped about a month ago and got a big flush. Will not tip anymore.  Would think his tree is shutting down for the winter now so tipping will have no effect until the spring flush.

BTW Zands, left you my phone # to discuss your irrigation questions.  Too much hassle to do it via text for me.

Mark

This is not me about any irrigation questions. Must be another forum member/  Your wine grape plantings are awesome and hope you do great with them next season which is next year 2020 maga DT!

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You don't have much to tip there. Wait until next year. You are at same latitude as Virginia in the USA where one could never grow mangoes outside. You have the warmth but less sunlight and fewer sunlight hours during the summer growing season than mango growers in Miami, much closer to the equator.

Very nice looking tree with plenty of time to tip prune in 2020.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is my sweet tart going to make it?
« on: October 02, 2019, 07:28:32 PM »
Keep that baby well staked at least for 12 more months as that gap starts healing over next spring. You have a good looking leafed out tree, I think it will heal up during next years warm months. Next spring keep well watered and well fertilized to boost growth over that ugly spot.

Even this fall it will heal up a bit but the real takeoff starts next February-March.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 5 sprout mango seed
« on: September 29, 2019, 09:21:28 AM »
I have patronized an "Islands" automobile mechanic not far from me. He planted a Julie seed and it put out three branches. Very bushy of course which just might be a survival mechanism. I have not seen this tree in a few years. I must take a look. It is just outside his shop. I have had avocado seeds put up two shoots. One is now in a neighbors back yard. Planted 4 years ago.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 50,000 Apples Stolen From Indiana Orchard
« on: September 29, 2019, 09:11:16 AM »
Whoever stole the apples is probably making apple cider for Aldi!
Yeps! Indeed! Now I see why apple cider is at bargain prices at Aldis. They also have anvil loppers there at $9.99 this week but I will admit I don't like the design. Having bought previously. The handles have to spread out too far to cut off the branch. But razor sharp!

Aldi also has electric chainsaw at $35 and battery ops pole saw at $69 this week. At least at the Aldi at McNab and University in Tamarac 33321 that I saw yesterday. I bought their electric chainsaw a few years ago and have no complaints.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / 50,000 Apples Stolen From Indiana Orchard
« on: September 29, 2019, 08:58:56 AM »
50,000 Apples Stolen From Indiana Orchard
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Orchard owner says the apples were stolen to make apple sauce or apple cider. btw go to Aldis if you like apple cider. $3.49/gallon. They are giving this stuff away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=46&v=1xRcuAjBUgE




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Looking great on the cluster before and after thinning and........  great looking orange mango flesh there. Orange means sweet/ripe while yellow means acidy and premature.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's National Iguana Awareness Day!
« on: September 16, 2019, 04:11:41 PM »
National Guacamole Day 2019 – September 16


U.S.National Guacamole Day 2019 – September 16
It’s not just a side dish anymore.  On National Guacamole Day every September 16, we elevate this tasty green blend into the spotlight.  Guacamole (or “guac”) is made of avocados, which are well-known for the health benefits related to their high vitamin content and lots of cholestoral-lowering healthy fats.  Originally native to Mexico and Central America, avocados  grow on trees.  In fact, avocados are technically considered a fruit!

There are hundreds of ways to pepare guacamole. People spice up their guacamole with onion, garlic, cumin, tomato, cilantro, or even store-bought salsa. Traditionally, guacamole is served with tortilla chips but it’s also good with corn chips, carrot sticks  and celery. Guac is delicious on sandwiches and hamburgers or  in salads. Some people even blend it into smoothies! So, Go Green with guacamole on September 16!

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The Dell Inspiron 15 5575 sports a 15.5-inch full HD display with 1920 x 1080 resolution which is a good value for money. The display has a LED-backlit display panel with an anti-glare coating that minimizes the reflections on the screen. The display quality is really impressive and watching movies on the bright screen is fun

Besides the legit NVME drive slot, that my eBay seller inserted a 256GB  NVME card into, another reason I bought this one from eBay is the full HD display with 1920 x 1080 resolution. It seems that major websites are optimized for full HD display with 1920 x 1080 resolution default and my other laptop missed this.

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What fruit is that?

My Win10 notebook with the NVME drive boots in 5 seconds...shutdown in 3 sec. But this one is 2 years old already.

Udon Noodle.... same boot  time with me. And you bought two years ago for lots more $$ shekels and NVME was a more exclusive club. Now I bought for $300 used on eBay. I am amazed at the 256GB NVME boot time and responsiveness once the Dell 5575 is turned on. Laptop also has a 1TB hard drive at  a pathetic 5400RPM that I use as storage.....movies...MP3 etc

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: thumper
« on: September 16, 2019, 04:04:57 AM »
Looking good! As in what is the point of having fruit trees if you dont want them looking good and edible to others.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's National Iguana Awareness Day!
« on: September 15, 2019, 07:34:42 PM »
I had no idea iguanas are such bad news. Good to know and share with others. 11 in one summer? I would have a gun just to shoot them.

Are a major pestilence and nuisance in some parts of South Florida. Where I live Iguana are not a problem ..... Yet.  But we have  small curly tail lizards that have pushed out the small lizards. The curlies have taken over their ecological niche.

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Yikes this new Dell 5575 Ryzen laptop (used gotten off ebay but new to me) is flying even with an inferior KingSpec 256GB NVME card inserted as the Windows Ten Operating System. Look at Dell Inspiron 5575 Ryzen for NVME options.

You buy or build new computer.......make sure it is full M.2 NVME capable...and not an inferior M.2 SATA slot meaning you get no better speed than traditional SSD drives by Samsung etc.   Many motherboards are NVME and I just might build an Asrock B450 mobo desktop computer. Build on this this Asrock Motherboard with a Ryzen 2400G>>>> https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450M-HDV-R4-0-Promontory-Motherboard/dp/B07MWGKHR9/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=b450m-hdv&qid=1568526990&s=electronics&sr=1-1

The NVME hard drives with much faster reads and writes are taking over so fast that NVME at 256GB are about the same price as ye old SSD

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to increase yield on Lemon Zest Mango?
« on: September 09, 2019, 08:57:32 AM »
Simon.... Reading in between the lines that Zill puts out. They will no longer graft Lemon Zest due to so called "issues". My take is LZ will do just fine in lower humidity southern California and Arizona you have proof already fr Starch. You just have to iron out the kinks. Right rootstock etc. Maybe some  minimal sprays. How about a dose of potassium?

I’ve tried a multitude of Foliar sprays including seaweed and Citrus Nutritional spray. My particular location in San Diego is more coastal inland and the humidity is relatively high compared to more inland locations. I get heavy fog in the mornings which causes a lot of fungal issues for me.

My area is an excellent growing environment for Powdery Mildew. I do feed my trees with a good amount of Potassium and micro and trace elements. I also increased silicon levels with Potassium Silicate.

Simon

I made too many assumptions Simon. San Diego has annual precipitation of 10.4". Looks like this precipitation comes at exactly the wrong time for you in the form of morning fog. I never would have guessed you could fungal issues in a location with 10" annual precipitation. Maybe try iron? Do you think ferrous sulfate thrown on top of mulch will chelate into the wood chips and become an organic-bound iron?

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I am going to pass on Juliette mango. If anyone wants it go to Tropic Plants on University in Tamarac. It is a very well built 3 gallon tree. Stout and branched out.

Tropic Plants - 7910 N University Dr, Tamarac, Florida 33321         
They have a very nice large Brogdan avocado too. $150. Very green and tall and ready to zoom. Lots of Nam Doc Mai and Julie mango. A Pina Colada and another Orange Sherbet in 7 gallon. Fairchild mango. Kesar They have a large (diverse) mango and avocado selection.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Should I Apply 0-0-50?
« on: September 08, 2019, 06:18:52 PM »
Muriate of Potash  = Potassium Chloride

You want sulfate of potash. K2SO4

You are right! As in Muriatic acid the old name for Hydrochloric acid. Carbo - do not get any muriate of potash or muriate of anything. You only want sulfates. Potassium sulfate/

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I had 6 or 7 fruit from my young tree this year and was disappointed ....... I was thinking I should not rush to judgment because of the age of the tree but it would really need to do something amazing to be something I would want to keep

Young mango tree can produce very non-representative fruits. I saw this with my young Neelam tree/ It produced 12 fruits in year four and after biting into three I picked all the others and tossed them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Should I Apply 0-0-50?
« on: September 08, 2019, 11:13:41 AM »
Thanks, zands.  You confirmed what I was thinking.

Har's potassium granules are coated so very nice slow release. Common 0-0-50 Granular potassium sulfate is kind of slow release. I have seen it persist in my mulch. With potassium sulfate powder bringing up the rear, but still usable for those who are disciplined.

Same as slow release nitrogen fertilizer called 8-3-9 also called Fruitilizer at Universal Supply..... Also other slow release nitrogen formulations found at Lowe's and Home Depot. The nitrogen granules in these fertilizers are polymer (plastic) coated. Har's potassium granules are polymer coated.

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