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And Alex - Squam was right! I will try to find his prediction made back in January or February.
I am talking SE Florida counties
Manatee - Sarasota- St Petersberg - West Coast Florida mango trees must be early too.

I am getting lots of mango drops for the past week.
My estimate is SE Florida mangoes are three weeks earlier than the usual.

Are the problems really that bad?


The Keitt/Gary and Kent/Gary crosses from Gary Zill’s project offer the most promise as far as late-season stuff is concerned. These will continue to be evaluated over the next few years.

The problem the established late season cultivars have is they’re mostly purely descended from Haden and/or Brooks, and lack Julie or Saigon genes that appear to afford some level of resistance.

Could you please post a few photos of what the leaves and fruit look like on mango trees with this problem?

If you believe this eruption is slowing down, or that it can't reach the coast elsewhere, then watch this video:

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I posted this elsewhere and people were amazed.
Good luck, stay safe Oscar!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longan Pride
« on: June 17, 2018, 02:40:35 PM »
I hear that in Hawaii mangoes are too common to steal BUT....
Lychee Thieves trailer HD  (youtube)

This is Sir Prize.  More I research this variety the more excited I am about it.

Sir Prize is a good early season avocado, covering the gap in spring before Hass arrives. I was buying them at the local farmers market a while back and grew quite fond of them, but they are a second tier avo for me because fat content is not their strong point. What I liked as the unusual golden color of the flesh and the fact that it would not oxidize no matter how long I left it on the counter.

I may be mistaken but I have seen Sir Prize photos here where it is dwarfish and heavily laden. It might have been in a container. Is this the case? At least in California?

Super colorful fruit punch and colorful others. Fruit punch looks like a mango that would sell based on "curb appeal" plus I read it has great taste. Have not eaten one yet.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet tart mango
« on: June 15, 2018, 05:44:05 AM »
In that video up above that guy has no idea what he's doing watch this.
If you say so you are probably right.

But the tip pruning video of Dr Campell you posted is only 20% helpful. I saw that one five years ago and always thought it was too breezy and of limited use. He needs to do tip pruning on a larger, more mature mango tree and talk about how long the branch is when it is tip pruned and other indications when tip pruning should be done.

IOW he needs a do over on that video. Maybe someone here who knows him can make this request. Or you can make this t-pruning video.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Nam doc Mai Mango 2018
« on: June 14, 2018, 08:18:10 PM »
Watermelon is enhanced by squeezing lime juice over it. Ate it this way yesterday.

Zands you ever ate a top tier watermelon such as orangeglo or gold in gold, or any for that  matter? They're good as is!!!! grocery store garbage gets the lime and tajin added which is really good.
We only get generic seeded and unseeded watermelons that can take the Florida heat. If I went to whole foods I could probably find better watermelons like you mention. But they seem to be grown in cooler prices get jacked up. I will take a look at whole foods and Doris markets.

Try juicing the rinds with a lime and some ginger

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: spaugh Hero Member great guy.
« on: June 14, 2018, 03:06:05 PM »
So....   How about those avocados?!

I am going to nominate you for the Nobel Peace prize. You deserve it more than Obama and Trump if he gets one for North Korea. Here is how to nominate Spaugh.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet tart mango
« on: June 14, 2018, 02:55:10 PM »
How often do you tip? Every 12"?
Tip pruning is done at different lengths depending on the distance between nodes. This node distance varies from mango variety to mango variety. I think so called vigorous growers have longer node distances.
Someone can explain it better than me, who does a more exacting and better job of tip pruning.

For example -- Tip pruning is done to encourage bifurcation. But often when I tip prune a small branch it will grow back with no bifurcation. So it has to be tip pruned again in a few months, and often this time it does bifurcate.

Check out youtube under ______mango tree pruning ________ mango tree prune_____ tip pruning______

How to Prune a Mango Tree

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet tart mango
« on: June 14, 2018, 09:13:46 AM »
Thanks Future! Will do

Yeah keep tipping. Mine is 6 years old responded great to dedicated tip pruning so that it is more bushy and not a vigorous grower that others say their ST is. Or maybe mine just naturally had bushy tendencies.

I neglected tip pruning on some mango trees but not on my sweet tart. I kept on top of that one.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Nam doc Mai Mango 2018
« on: June 14, 2018, 09:09:23 AM »
Watermelon is enhanced by squeezing lime juice over it. Ate it this way yesterday.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pina Colada Mango
« on: June 12, 2018, 11:38:36 PM »
I love PC. One of my favorite mangoes. My tree has an excellent crop this year. Last couple of years, it failed to flower much; it also hasn't grown much -- which is fine by me (less pruning). Mine was on one of those "dwarfing" rootstocks that Gary Zill was playing with.
I also got Pina Colada tree on same dwarfing root stock from that Zill era. The root stock was a comically and freakish wide diameter. The rootstock was 2" wide with a 1"wide Pina Colada stuck into it. Grafted into it.

Pina Colada trees must be sold on a more conventional root stock these days? So will not be such slow growers? So one would think.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pina Colada Mango
« on: June 12, 2018, 03:04:13 PM »
Pina Colada is polyembryonic
But how many times have you seen this? From what I have read here some of the new Zill mangoes seeds can sprout poly-embryonic sometimes and mono-embryonic other times.

Which out of the 2 trees produced the most fruit ?
Thanks Ed
This year Pina Colada has a slight edge over Fairchild.
But for an average over five mango seasons....The average is that PC and Fairchild have similar mango yields.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pina Colada Mango
« on: June 12, 2018, 09:48:42 AM »
Is Pina Colada seed poly-embryonic or not? All input appreciated for an experiment.

Great to see you getting some tasty mangos now.
The Pina Colada gets a deceiving yellow blush (from the sun I suppose) it really throws me off and gets me thinking they're ready to pick.
Thanks!  My PC fruits, some have some yellow blush in them but are rock hard.



fair turning yellow and ripe

fair fruit dropped

pina colada....small inconspicuous fruit same as until it turns yellow and ripe

pina colada fruit is small to medium size, has smaller seed than fairchild so higher flesh to seed ratio than fairchild. PC also a stronger sweeter "New Zill" taste than Fairchild. The PC tree is 12 feet high and manageable, as is Fairchild. Fairchild tree is presently 15ft high

pina c

pina c

I just want to praise the little mango that could. Large size seed, small size mango. No nice coloration such as reds, pinks, purples. A high seed to flesh ratio. But even with our heavy rains they are full flavor. My Carries taste good but bland enough for bsbullie to savor. Pickerings are bland with a few full taste ones. Those are my three that have gotten edible so far.

Fairchild has a good rep for fungus resistance and in fruiting each year. Though I admit last year mine put out no fruit, the only time in 8 years.

Pina Colada and Fairchild are two manageable trees. Meaning they are not mad (vigorous) growers and can be kept  to smaller size. Both have fruits that thieves will tend to pass by as compared to mangoes that are red and large or have other nice coloration. Pinks and purples.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fig trees
« on: June 08, 2018, 06:42:08 PM »
Thanks to all Florida fig growers for contributing their fig growing experiences. I have brown turkey and Ischia planted in a bad location and have gotten bland figs, good figs and winter figs from them but low quantity. These two plants are neglected. My new purple LSU is container grown.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fig trees
« on: June 08, 2018, 06:38:08 PM »
Unlike most plants, figs actually like having their roots constrained.
Very good to know. I have been told the same about desert rose.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fig trees
« on: June 07, 2018, 03:01:22 PM »
LSU Purple should be good for hot humid climate like Florida so I bought one. Anyone in Florida have a personal report on LSU purple?

can buy via ebay and the place below ------ and suitable for container growing

LSU Purple Fig Ficus carica

LSU Purple fig is a very reliable, prolific producer of early to late delicious figs. One of the best figs to come along for some time. Excellent for containers, producing early figs as soon as growth starts. Very acclimated to the fluctuating weather of the South, does great in Virginia Beach. Zones 7-9. Has fruited well at our nursery (zone 7). Best to pick a few days after fruit turns black, wrinkles and elongates. Space 10' to 12' circle

Plant Characteristics
Pest ResistanceVery Good
Disease ResistanceVery Good
Drought ToleranceVery Good
Heat ToleranceExcellent
Humidity ToleranceGood
Sun ToleranceExcellent
Wet Soil ToleranceFair
Shade TolerancePoor
No SprayGood
Salt ToleranceGood
Fresh for KidsExcellent
Deer ResistanceGood
Plant TypeShrub
Soil TypeWell Drained
Edible TypeFruit
Self FertileYes
This information is accurate to the best of our knowledge, comments/opinions are always welcome

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Be mindful
« on: June 04, 2018, 10:09:20 PM »
For those who do not know...coral snakes have poisonous venom. Like most snakes they like tall neglected unmowed grass. Thanks for the heads up.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Two color Australian Grumichama
« on: June 04, 2018, 08:41:38 PM »
Amazing looking with the two color fruits. Glad it tastes good.

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