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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anyone identify this mango
« on: January 03, 2020, 12:59:17 PM »
Looks polyembryonic.  Is that correct?  Fruit shape reminds of Sigsiput...but I'm not familiar with leaf, growth habit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: December 28, 2019, 06:49:31 PM »
Mango bloom report at my 1 1/4 acre dooryard fruit grove in Palm Beach County established 5 years ago:
Heavy bloom on Edward, Dot, Pickering, Maha Chanok, Dupuis Saigon & Lemon Zest.
Moderate bloom on Hatcher, Juliette, Honey Kiss, Angie & Nam Doc Mai;
Good bloom for the first time om Lemon Meringue, Fruit Punch & Cotton Candy.
No bloom yet on mature trees Mallika, Sweet Tart, Valencia Pride & Coconut Cream.
And young trees yet to bloom: Sugar Loaf, Orange Sherbet, Buttercream, CAC, Harvest Moon, Cushman, M4, Venus, Bailey's Marvel, Southern Blush. Juicy Peach.
Trees affected by Bacterial Black Spot in 2019 that have one last chance in 2020 before removal: Sweet Tart, Mallika, Lemon Zest & Hatcher.
Trees removed this year due to BBS fruit damage in 2018 & 2019 were Providence & Okrung.
My two most successful varieties in 2019 were Pickering & Maha Chanok (despite Maha being on the BBS susceptibility list).

Impressive list. You grow this for self consumption or sell fruit?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: December 18, 2019, 02:01:02 PM »
These are flowering or about to flower right now. Probably missed a few :

Ah Ping
Arka Neelkiran
Brahm Kai Meu
 CAsturi 6-25
Coconut cream
Cotton Candy
Crimson Delight
Dupuis Saigon
Dwarf Hawaiian
East Indian
Fruit Cocktail
Golden Queen
Harvest Moon
Hindi Bessenara
Iman Passand
Janardhan Passand
Jean Ellen
Juicy Peach
Kensington Pride
Langra Benarasi
Lemon Meringue
Madame Blanc
Madame Francis
Maha Chanok
Merritt Island Saigon
Nam Doc Mai #4
Nam Doc Mai Mun
Nam tam teem
Orange Essence
Pim Sen Mun
Pineapple Pleasure
San Felipe
Sķper Julie
Tess Pollock
Ugly Betty
Van Dyke
Vellqi colomban
White pIri
Zill 33-8
Zill 40-17
Zill 40-26
Zill O-15

Still plenty of stuff left thatís dormant and will require a later cold event to flower

Looks like our 10th year mango hunting in south Florida will be commensurate.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black sapote
« on: November 10, 2019, 06:01:13 PM »
I had a big - 15 ft tall cut back to 10ft every year - fruitless solo tree. After 4th year flowering without a fruit, itís now a stump. Will graft on a dwarf tree planted same time, 3 ft all and sets loads of fruits from the first time it flowered b

Mercy. Epic.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava mango
« on: October 18, 2019, 09:43:37 AM »
Just had guava mango from Florida graft and seed was poly. Here is pic of mango. Will post seed pic later.


I grew the strongest. Out of 7 together one confined to thrive. Sap smell is 10x stronger Mandarin smell than LZ or peach cobbler

Whatís up Behl. This sounds promising. Do keep us posted.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava mango
« on: October 17, 2019, 05:59:05 PM »
Weíve fruited Guava and it does resemble the photos of Priyor .

However my recollection is that the seeds were monoembryonic or at least appeared to be.

The tree Walter Zill got the budwood from was ancient. Likely 100+ years old. It is worth mentioning that in the early 20th century A LOT of mangos were being introduced to south Florida from India, and a decent number of these got propagated/distributed. Some of those varieties even fell out of favor or out of recognition in India since (stuff like Ameeri and Borsha). So Walter has at times speculated that this could have been one of those trees.

Another interesting old tree which is another candidate for one of these early Indian introductions (or derivatives of such) is a unique Indian-flavored variety Walter calls ĎApricotí, which we are now growing. I have seen this tree and it is also visibly very old.

Guava has really grown on me as a first rate mango.

I confirm every seed has been mono which only adds to the mystery. A nearly true to type mono is theoretically possible.  I only recall seeing mono honey kiss seeds but all the seedlings at Walterís appear true to type.  Maybe I missed them being poly (donít rate it highly so...). 

And double thanks to Alex for educating us.  I had Apricot this summer and enjoyed it.

Where is the original Apricot tree?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2019 SoCal Mango tasting
« on: October 13, 2019, 06:33:03 PM »
2020 - save me a seat!!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2019 SoCal Mango tasting
« on: October 12, 2019, 05:41:53 PM »
I was sure this thread was elaborate fake news.  Simply because I wasn't invited. 

Thanks for detailing this epic event.

ďThe day progressed and some people had to tap out. They couldnít take so much sugar and mango in one day. Rookies. Ē



Just picked up an Orange Sherbet tree at a very good price. My question: how tall are these at mature size? Shall I expect the Orange Sherbet to grow to a 50' tree?

Thank you!

Prune branches to 18 inches or slightly less and you can keep it below 8ft tall and producing scores of mangoes.

Not so fast.

Radiation bombed Nam Doc Mai?

Thanks but no thanks.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sea Grape
« on: September 28, 2019, 04:25:31 PM »
It grows wild locally and hardly anyone bothers to eat them.  For good reason.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal grown mango brix
« on: September 25, 2019, 11:35:01 AM »
Diabetic shock. Amazing.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Humberto
« on: September 22, 2019, 07:45:30 AM »
Iím sure someone here already posted about the counterintuitive bagging - need to find it. Another source tells me theyíve use it with success too. Seeing it work sold me.

Jerry projected weaker but it seems we sit in a hurricane bowling alley with Karen now behind Jerry.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Humberto
« on: September 21, 2019, 05:19:23 PM »
How did your trees do ?

Whatís up Doc? Leaves are toast. But no branches broken. Two grafts I had going survived. A friend you might recall from years ago, Dr. Warner, asked me to bag his 5ft tall mango trees as he travelled today and we have a direct hit projected for Tuesday. When I went to meet I saw first hand how magical bagging is. He has a VP totally exposed at a hilltop he put a trash bag on and leaves are unblemished. Counterintuitive but battle tested at 115mph.  Will be doing that going forward except my leaves are already toast...checked my field and as expected every single banana tree leveled.  Black Sapote yawned and stands high.

Iím thinking ex-banana, most trees should live. Thanks for asking.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Humberto
« on: September 19, 2019, 03:01:44 PM »
Trees everywhere are whipped. Funny thing is I have two fresh grafts that look ok still. Time will tell.

Hurricane eye went from 30 miles wide to 105.  Thatís why we got hit harder than expected.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Humberto
« on: September 19, 2019, 05:52:10 AM »
Good morning forum.

Storm has passed.  Peak winds over land 115mph. 

80% without electricity (essentially almost everyone not in the city).  Structural assessments begin in a few moments.  Not life lost. One baby born. Road clearing will take some time.  And just for fun, a reboot of the unprecedented double hurricane strike in the same week from several years ago may be in the works...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Humberto
« on: September 18, 2019, 06:45:30 PM »
I truly hope you donít take a direct hit.  Keep us informed.

Thanks Doc

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Humberto
« on: September 18, 2019, 06:44:41 PM »

For perspective, the Atlantic Ocean covers 41 million square miles. Bermuda covers only 21 square. So when the eye wall grazes on end of the island, as doing now, itís pretty rare. Iíve experienced 3 eyes in my lifetime, one a Cat 3. Iím at the other end of the island so weíll see what comes of this. Howling pretty good out there now....gusts up to 82 mph

Peak winds will hit in the next hour.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Humberto
« on: September 18, 2019, 11:24:05 AM »
Thanks for the notes Simon, Alex.We are staring down a Cat 3. Good news: itís moving fast so we will only have a 12 hour window at Tropical Force and perhaps a few hours at Hurricane Force.  8pm tonight will be the peak. My seedlings are indoors now, in bathtubs, showers,l and on kitchen floor.  For those who arenít aware, Bermuda infrastructure is generally solid, all concrete most steel reinforced.  This Cat 3 has a small diameter so 70 miles out still offers us respite. I donít expect too much structural damage but will certainly lose some crops.  Weíll be fine here.

Watching right behind it we have another storm brewing...

Impressive. Must get my hands on this. JF - how did it get this name?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Humberto
« on: September 17, 2019, 05:26:32 PM »
Early models - not reliable - see Tropical Depression 10 following the same hook out way...

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