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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Japan acid citruses
« on: September 14, 2019, 10:26:45 AM »
Diferences between  citrus oto, citrus keraji var. kabuchi, citrus tarogayo and citrus tarogayo Unju in peel thicknes, shape of fruit and shape of seed.
https://blog.goo.ne.jp/nekogatame/e/18b6a197cc327d09b5088b6d9425bf94

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Annona spinescens for sale.
« on: September 14, 2019, 09:50:34 AM »
Two Annona spinescens seedlings for sale (in EU).

Price:
seedling 35€
shipping 10€







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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Japan acid citruses
« on: September 14, 2019, 09:48:00 AM »
Here are my citrus tarogayo seedlings .






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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Japan acid citruses
« on: September 14, 2019, 03:02:58 AM »
Radoslav,

In recent publication on citrus hybrid origin based  on DNA markers it was concluded that:

"Thus, kabuchi was inferred to be an offspring of kunenbo-A as seed parent and an unidentified variety, and
keraji was inferred to be an offspring of kabuchi and kunenbo-A, but their combination was indeterminate.
This inferred parentage suggests that keraji is a backcrossed offspring of kunenbo-A."


https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0166969


Hello,

I found another paper which  assumes that Keraji can be a cross of Kunenbo and Kikaimikan (Kabuchi). https://ir.kagoshima-u.ac.jp/?action=pages_view_main&active_action=repository_view_main_item_detail&item_id=2762&item_no=1&page_id=13&block_id=21
In another paper  this author states, that only morphologicall difference between Keraji and Kabuchi is smell of the fruit.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Japan acid citruses
« on: September 14, 2019, 02:28:51 AM »
Here is document about citruses in chain of Ryukyu Islands (Okinawa is the biggest one).
http://cpi.kagoshima-u.ac.jp/publications/occasionalpapers/occasional/vol-54/OCCASIONAL_PAPERS_54(pp9-15).pdf

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Japan acid citruses
« on: September 12, 2019, 02:03:53 PM »
Radoslav,

In recent publication on citrus hybrid origin based  on DNA markers it was concluded that:

"Thus, kabuchi was inferred to be an offspring of kunenbo-A as seed parent and an unidentified variety, and
keraji was inferred to be an offspring of kabuchi and kunenbo-A, but their combination was indeterminate.
This inferred parentage suggests that keraji is a backcrossed offspring of kunenbo-A."


https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0166969

As I stated before, role of DNA analysis is overestimated, if you give  DNA sample to 10 laboratories, you will get 10 different results. I remember lecture of one czech scientist, who is considered to be one of the fathers of forensic usage of DNA. (He worked on Srebrenica mass grave for example). And he said, that he is very upset with the fact, that US judges use DNA analysis as 100% evidence. Those citrus parentage games are very popular in Japan. Here is another one from 2014 : Keraji, Kabuchii, and Oto are closely related to Kunenbo based on the results of isozyme and DNA analyses. The type of cpDNA of Keraji, Kabuchii, Tarogayo, and Oto is the same as that of Kunenbo. This suggests that they arose from Kunenbo as a female ancestor because cpDNA is inherited maternally.

Another thing is, that plants, no matter if they are crossed, or backcrossed, or mutations, botanically they still can be considered as a same species.  For example citrus junos or citrus keraji, or citrus sudachi etc. It means that you can find some differences on DNA level, but botanically those diferences are not important.
In fact DNA analysis say nothing in this case,  DNA markers are not the key elements for botanical categorization, otherwise we can say, that there is no citrus keraji, no citrus oto, no citrus tarogayo, just citrus nobilis, because of kunenbo genes in each plant.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Japan acid citruses
« on: September 12, 2019, 11:53:50 AM »
You should make a change there is a mistake in your list.
Keraji and Kabuchi are two different cultivars of mandarin, not the same.

No






オートー(C. oto hort. ex Tanaka), カーブチー(Citrus keraji var. kabuchii hort. ex Tanaka, タロガヨ(C. tarogayo Hort. ex Tanaka), ウンジュ(C. tarogayo var. uniu Hort. ex  Tanaka)


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona id please
« on: August 28, 2019, 11:51:24 AM »
Looks like duguetia.

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Fresh seeds.


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Fresh pitangatuba (eugenia neonitida) seeds for sale.




10 seeds 12€ including shipping.



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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya/Pawpaw hybrid
« on: August 20, 2019, 10:19:59 AM »
I am not a specialist, but if the situation is similar to crossing diploids with tetraploids in citrus breeding, then it will be impossible to save embryo without separation and rising in vitro.

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I have for sale rooted cuttings from flowering Plukenetia volubilis sacha inchi, incan peanut.


Plant: 12€ including shipping

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seeds from indoor grown Soursop.
« on: August 13, 2019, 12:54:28 PM »
Sold out.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Seeds from indoor grown Soursop.
« on: August 12, 2019, 10:20:34 AM »





10 seeds $ 7 including shipping.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop fruiting in living room.
« on: August 11, 2019, 12:06:37 PM »
Congrats on the fruit, great job. Did you use any supplement lights?


No, just sunlight through east facing window.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop fruiting in living room.
« on: August 11, 2019, 11:53:03 AM »
Today I tasted my very first indoor grown soursop fruit.
It was very pleasant surprise. Very strong sweet taste resembles a bit overripe Pineapple.
Very soft pulp. Seeds small, relatively low number.







Seeds from whole fruit.




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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Fig plants for sale-Europe
« on: August 11, 2019, 03:11:42 AM »
For sale:

Number one fig for fresh consumption in Europe. Bursa black
cultivar from Turkey, smyrna type, needs pollinator, fig wasp.





Commercial cultivar for dried figs market. Kalamon
cultivar from Greece, self fertile, no need of fig wasp.




Self fertile fig cultivar from Turkey Black Orak.




prices:

12€ for plant
10€ for shipping

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If you ask about difference between seedling and grafted plant behaviour, in my experiences seedlings and grafted plants (no matter, if the rootstock is rooted cutting or seedling) behave differently. Especially in harash conditions, the grafted rootstock  is trying to safe itself first and has no problem to give up grafted part.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Mandarinequat
« on: July 29, 2019, 12:52:18 PM »
Interesting, thank you. I shall contact an owner of this site to see where he took these photos.
Strangely, in the catalogue of citrus plants in Sotchi collection these hybrids are not listed.From what I know on the fate of Sukhumi institute, it disappeared completely.


I remember one hybrid from CRA-Centro di Ricerca per l'Agrumicoltura e le Colture Mediterranee show of new ornamental cultivars in 2012. It is kumquat ovale x budhas hand.




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Fuerte, Bacon cultivars for sale
6€/ cutting
shipping 2€.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Mandarinequat
« on: July 22, 2019, 05:13:04 AM »
No its not disappeared.
I am trying to get Азахикан с Тенгу hybrids http://agro-portal.su/citrusovye-kultury/2856-gibridy-sorta-s-paradisi-macf-greypfrut.html  from there via contact from Belarus with contacts in Suchumi.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Mandarinequat
« on: July 22, 2019, 03:15:04 AM »
Radoslav,
I have been looking for these hybrids for several years, but it seems that they were lost after the collapse of the USSR.


From what I know, the plants are most likely still there, but for example in Suchumi (Сухумской опытной станции), during the war for independence, people  and database disappeared. Now they are working hard to identify plants in their possesion.



Btw.: Цитрофортунелла x Гибрид 5956
https://herbarium.info/Двудольные%20(Dicotyledones)/Сапиндоцветные%20%28Sapindales%29/Рутовые%20%28Rutaceae%29/Цитрофортунелла%20x%20Гибрид%205956%20%28Fortunella%20margarita%20CV.%20Nagami%20x%20Citrus%20medica%29/index.html

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Mandarinequat
« on: July 21, 2019, 02:42:00 AM »
I winder why there are no kumquat X  citron hybrids?
With sweet albedo and low acid juice they should be tasty and more resistant than pure citrons.


Гибрид 5956 (F.margarita CV. Nagami x Citrus medica L.). Плоды по форме, окраске, текстуре плода и вкусу мякоти и сока соответствуют типу лимона обыкновенного (С.limon), средняя масса 60,2 г. Цветение и плодоношение слабые. По морозостойкости превосходит родительские формы. Он представляет интерес в качестве гибридного посредника в селекции лимона обыкновенного.
Гибрид 5959 (F.margarita cv. Nagami х C.medica L.). Плоды лимоноподобные, с соском и воротничковой оттяжкой у основания, тонкокорые, по величине сильно варьируют - от мелких до нормального размера для лимона обыкновенного. Средняя масса 42,7 г. Вкус сока и мякоти - лимонного типа, аромат - кинкана. Цветение ремонтантное. Семена отсутствуют.

http://agro-portal.su/citrusovye-kultury/2875-gibridy-podroda-fortunella-kokaja.html

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Mandarinequat
« on: July 20, 2019, 04:18:29 PM »
Petr Broža had in collection hybrids from Italy.
C6 - kumquat x mandarin
C2 - kumquat x lemon








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For sale Opuntia ficus indica pads.


From cultivar with yellow fruits and from cultivar with orange fruits (mother plants from Malta).
 



10€ for pad including shipping.


Easy to root, just put the end of the pad into the soil and new grow will start within 30 days.

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