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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for cherimoyas
« on: December 14, 2018, 01:08:57 PM »
You could drop a note or talk to produce damager and let them know whats up and beg them to order from SB exotics. The whole foods here can stock them, no reason yours can’t source the good ones too.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: incan peanut seeds for sale/trade
« on: December 14, 2018, 04:49:51 AM »
Man is too busy. Tried to link before and wanted to charge me like a tourist for farm tour because time is too precious, though I bet it moves like Molasses in the valley. Then my friend tell’s me he got the royal treatment because friend of friends. Understandable , but I a no barney , I like using my time wisely , and we all learn from each other. When I host I just make sure the person is cool first or just cut it short if your not feeling it when they get there. People have their various hustles of course. I wouldnt doubt if someone but a bamboo pole roadblock at the bottom of the road and charged to enter. Hey, I don’t like tourist or selfie sticks either. What can you say. Micah , big ups , hope it’s all growing well for you.

micah, i still await your reply to my PM buddy.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for cherimoyas
« on: December 14, 2018, 04:39:46 AM »
Never buy an imported Chilean Cherimoya if you want a positive impression of the fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hi everyone! Been a while!
« on: December 14, 2018, 04:37:42 AM »
Hope life is treating you well Mike! Keep on growin  8)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Another rewarding Borneo fruit trip
« on: December 13, 2018, 05:16:46 AM »
Thanks for the nice report and telling it like it is.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia florida
« on: December 08, 2018, 03:04:34 AM »
I have one in a 15 gallon in shade , almost no direct sun , and it’s flushing and growing good. I’m sure you get more and hotter sun than I.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SCREC Cherimoya tasting
« on: December 08, 2018, 03:02:25 AM »
I bet you can fruit it in the City. I have a bunch of varieties fruiting in a foggy Santa Cruz zone close to the ocean. Hit me up if your ever down this way and want to check ‘em out. I have some extra grafted “Dream” tree’s right now.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SCREC Cherimoya tasting
« on: December 06, 2018, 08:33:46 AM »
If you can time it with something else especially. It’s hard to complain about trying new Cherimoya varieties, though it’s probably going to be a popular event with alot of eager Annona heads. Is cherimoya growing well for you in the City?

I’m curious what your looking to use this medium for?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pouteria fruit ID
« on: December 04, 2018, 06:53:54 PM »
Thanks very much, Canistel it is.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pouteria fruit ID
« on: December 04, 2018, 03:49:38 AM »
Sorry, image posting issue at the moment.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pouteria fruit ID
« on: December 04, 2018, 03:44:21 AM »
My friend found this one in Thailand. Said it tasted like good cake consistency. Could it be Canistel?
I’ve never seen one so pointy. Thanks.

They are super variable across the board. There are ping pong ball sized red and yellow.
There are incredibly productive for their size red and yellow.
Bottom line: most people think yellow tastes better but again so much variability in seedlings.

I want to know what people have successfully grafted on ??, as i have a large red i’d like to top work.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anonas
« on: November 24, 2018, 09:10:29 PM »
From a real Annona Guru, thank you Har.
There are many variables and each one’s experience can be insight or a learnimg experiment if you choose to look at it that way. Like most folks here I write about my trials and errors, successes and failures so we can learn from each other to be better fruit farmers .

Several factors infuence flowering, fruit set, and fruit set retention:  mineral nutrition(especially Calcium, Boron, and Zinc), soil moisture, air humidity, warmth, presence of pollinators (Nitidulid mini beetles, not bees or flies), and lots of sunlight.

So from one yard to the next, persons can have 100% different results, without anyone's being a liar.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anonas
« on: November 22, 2018, 12:38:01 PM »
Simon, What is the larger tree size , capable of holding 70-100 fruits , trunk caliper near the base?
I recall a handout from Nino at the CCA conference that stated he hand pollinated earlier and earlier each year and this correspondended with bigger harvests. I’ve also read on TFF about hand pollinating contributing to more seediness. There is give and take with everything. I would like to be on it with handpollinsting  and I would like all the varieties to fruit, many pots on the fire of course and I would be more likely to without the good fruit set.
The “Dream” , “Lisa” and A. Globiflora continue to flower well for a third year but no hand pollination so no fruit set. I have observed smaller amounts of fruit set and no fruit set on certain Cherimoya cultivar ( Pierce, Inca Red) , and then others overset themselves prolifically without the hand pollination (HoneyHART, Licia, Fino de Jete) , fascinating.

Of note regarding Exotica was a singular Cherimoya I found holding ripe in August, on one of the huge tree’s at the back of the lot next door. Never pruned , those monsters must be 30 foot by 30 foot easy.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anonas
« on: November 22, 2018, 11:47:41 AM »
From my most recent planting , most of these Annona were planted from 15-25 gallon pots this Spring. I did not have the success with fruit set until multiple cultivars are in flower at the same time. I am still getting flowers and fruit set. I am not aware of any other Cherimoya planting’s in Santa Cruz area. One friend I gave a 15 gallon Behl tree to hand pollinates religiouslly and his fruits are bigger but it could be the variety and fact he has 1 of the most ideal growing conditions i have seen here.

With multiple cultivars in one yard I dont find the need to hand pollinate. Many tree’s that have been in the ground 1-2 years are over fruiting themselves with 20+ fruit holding on a 5’ x 5 ‘ tree. I do have to thin for them to size up properly but i have not pollinated as of yet. Trying to get some fruit set on any other Annona grafted to Cherimoya, it appears hand pollination is necessary.

Post pictures

Always more fruit hiding under the foliage than you can see in the photo’s.

Setting fruit since around July and still setting

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anonas
« on: November 22, 2018, 11:36:15 AM »
Go nyam some fresh noni  fruit. I have zero incentive to post incorrect or misleading information.
I have give or take 30 + grafted cherimoya in the ground i grew from seed , grafted and planted and thats what is happening so chuck off. Your going to tell me I hand pollinate when I don’t? That’s weird ,  plenty of folks on the forum have seen my set up and grown Cherimoya tree’s from fruit that was grown in my yard .without hand pollination. The untrue statement is your family is not fed from Annona’s in your yard’s but by Von’s, Chicken, Corn , Squash maybe and the diet is augmented with Annona . So basically, do not tell me what i am experiencing , that you have not seen , is incorrect. That is a burro move.
The information above is incorrect. I have an anona forest in all 5 of my yards and if I relied on the trees to set on their own I couldnt feed my family.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: feijoa pineapple guava
« on: November 21, 2018, 01:49:57 PM »
I think there are varieties that fruit in higher heat area’s like Brad’s but those may not be singled out for those attributes yet. In mild Nor Cal weather they are planted as ornamental hedge , 50%+ of people have no idea they fruit. There are 100’s if not thousands of tree’s planted in sidewalk strips across town. Some bushes get 25 feet tall and wide , you can hedge them or shape them how you want.
It’s a delicious fruit that when perfectly ripe will have a little give in the middle, like a peach or close to it.
Sweet , tropical flavors, the inside should be juicy pulp , not dry at all. A slight red tint can accompany the pulp like a finger lime caviar’s at the ripest part of harvest. Though tolerable of drought and many conditions, probably not a good fruit to grow in the desert.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anonas
« on: November 21, 2018, 01:23:33 PM »
With multiple cultivars in one yard I dont find the need to hand pollinate. Many tree’s that have been in the ground 1-2 years are over fruiting themselves with 20+ fruit holding on a 5’ x 5 ‘ tree. I do have to thin for them to size up properly but i have not pollinated as of yet. Trying to get some fruit set on any other Annona grafted to Cherimoya, it appears hand pollination is necessary.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Multigraft Annona harvest
« on: November 21, 2018, 01:16:56 PM »
Wow! JF and Josh congratulations! JF’s varieties and your tree are a winning combination!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Babaco
« on: November 21, 2018, 01:12:58 PM »
With root rot set in, how will there be time and energy for an airlayer to succesfully root?
As mentioned above, Are you suggesting you have less than 25% success rooting cuttings?

By the leaves it's root rot which sets in slowly but surely. I have lots of experience with different papayas.
Save it while you can, and the easiest way is airlaying. A cutting won't have energy to survive

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Camu Camu forest (Myrciaria dubia)
« on: November 21, 2018, 01:09:37 PM »
There are definitely a couple goobers here that are less than forthcoming with information after presenting a brand new “top tier” fruit to the forum that is the best thing noone has ever heard of and then refuse to answer any questions on where it came from or possible parentage or that they really renamed an already known fruit.
So for the sake of conversation, in the mind of a nursery-man/woman, which is the worst offense 1. Knowingly selling mislabeled fruit tree’s or
2. Knowingly renaming a well known cultivar and passing it off as your own hybrid?
Ie, “ No No , thats not Big Jim loquat thats a “Giant Honey Golden “ Loquat “  buy my delicious “ Giant Honey Golden”.

And good luck to “We” and your Camu Camu planting that anyone could do if only we had the time / effort.
If you come to stroke instead of come to share then maybe beating it is the best course of action.

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All of our findings come at a cost to all of us, shared or not.
Out of curiosity, who else that posts here has refused to share?  I don’t remember any, if I’m mistaken, then I stand corrected.
Off to the farmers market.
With all due respect,

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inga Vulpina Impostor
« on: November 20, 2018, 12:14:35 PM »
I've picked up some nice plants off eBay that were not available elsewhere. It is always a gamble, but sometimes is a decent option if you can't find what you are looking for elsewhere. 7_heads has some nice plants, but tends to be overpriced. Picked up a few plants from him over the years that appear to be accurately labeled. Contact him and see if he will make it right.

Not even worth the time or effort, he will just dosey doh you for months, and who’s to say he could actually replace it with I. Vulpina.

The ever elusive Casimiroa Pringlei! I would love to see this one come out of the woodwork.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: October 31, 2018, 12:45:58 PM »
Avocado or Aguacate , Avo or cado.
Avo has been slang for a long time now, an add on to your sandwich, Burrito, salad .... Whatever, It's understood " Add Avo PLease"
" Side of Avo please" . It rolls off your tounge and is a pleasant abbreviation.
Living in ground zero for slang creation , new words for old things are not uncommon. I can't recall a slang word I have less fondness for than 'cado. It sound's ....bad, like it's made up by people who dislike vegetables and fruit in general . My redneck family member's would have a hard time pronouncing Avocado or Avo without feeling silly, but I know they are comfortable with the rough and tumble 'cado, whatever the hell that is. " I got some "cado here , you want some?" . No, I do not. It sounds like fried alligator entrails and no one know's what your talking about in not a good way. Avocado is a most highly revered fruit for many people's , unduplicatable in it's content and unique all the way around. Thus as it was debated over 100 years ago , Avocado or Aguacate, the made up word , Avocado won out and hence we face this great debate of minor importance to those whose diet and livelihood do not depend on it, but this is serious fruit business.  8) :P  ;)

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