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Its a forum. Opinions are expressed. I can ask questions of the product your selling. My opinion is not any more narrow or ridiculous than your never before grown outside of COLOMBIA Lulo.

What makes this seedling highly desireable, when it is thorny type, seems contradiction in terms.
How does the amount of meaty flesh or size of the fruit Or flavor outweigh the downside of the spines?
In general I think people would choose the not spiny plant if given the choice.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Reputability
« on: November 20, 2020, 11:47:11 AM »
I think your best off buying seed directly from the growers on this site or elsewhere and avoid seed middlemen that operate in a temperate climate often selling and storing short term viable sub-tropical and tropical seeds. A forum search will pull up lots of experiences with the seed biz’s.

Cherimoya dehydrated was horrible
Anybody dehydrate annonas?

Surfing sucks, dont do it. Also Mango’s, way too fiberous to eat, can have a toxic rash allergy, don’t do it!
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Google says it can take into the 20's. So why dont I ever hear of people growing it here? Does it not fruit? Does it taste bad?

I think most of it is poisonous and you have to prepare it correctly. Also it’s not delicious apparently. According to google it tastes like cream cheese

Well the Zill’s and their farming projects are in Florida so they did not have to travel far.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to top work cherimoya trees
« on: November 10, 2020, 08:00:57 PM »
Cleft graft em , they’re not too thick at all. They’ll push hard with big scion and established roots. Use a longer scion than you might normally so more nodes can push and start establishing tree shape quickly.

4 years ago , before his/her junglesop died , he/she was looking for another one for a back up.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: November 10, 2020, 12:48:51 PM »
Phitrantha Branca leaves are fatter and rounder by the stem than Aureana.
Theres BRanca Mel too, Branca just means white
I have Reds from 5+ different sources and the diversity is pretty astounding , I agree so many possible hybrids. More are coming into fruition so time to compare frootz.
Pretty sure Escalate is Red x White.
White is definitely a parent of Red but is the other parent Sabara? Good question. I kinda doubt it with the precociousness of Red and the slow to fruit White and Sabara.


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Some of these don't come true to seed as well. Adam has four Sapucaia seedlings that each look completely different. The "Sanford phitrantha" is a seedling of aureana, as is the "suspected AxP" being sold for big bucks on eBay. Many people have reported getting what appear to be phitranthas with red fruit from aureana seeds.

I think Branca Vinho is different from Branca. Branca Vinho may be the same as Branca Vinho Jumbo, which may be the same as Jumbo. The Brazilian fruits book says Jumbo is a selection of the Zona da Mata matrix, whatever that means. Zona da Mata is an aureana variety, but also a region in Brazil. Phitrantha Branca looks an awful lot like Aureana to me, but I've only seen pictures.

Red jaboticabas come up weird sometimes too. I'm suspicious of these supposed red x ____ hybrids.

People claim red is sabara x aureana. Is there any evidence for this? Any evidence that escarlate is red x aureana? Any evidence that sabara can even produce hybrids?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: “Nettie” White Sapote Scion
« on: November 08, 2020, 01:14:16 PM »
Yes , 3/8” and larger rootstock, hardened off and actively flushing is good for grafting.

They are pretty easy to graft.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: “Nettie” White Sapote Scion
« on: November 08, 2020, 04:10:42 AM »
Yes I prefer scissors ,but grinder is there for color contrast and because it was just right there. Haha

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: “Nettie” White Sapote Scion
« on: November 07, 2020, 06:46:52 PM »
Just hardened off rootstock 3/8” or larger is good for grafting.
Let me know whenever your ready!

You can graft onto Soursop if that grows better for you.

A large seedling was offered here for $1,000 a few years ago.
Haven’t heard an updated report on anyone growing them in years.
I suspect that many do not make it.
How are the Hawaii A. Manni plant outs looking though or was anyone on it?

Good deal on some nice looking tree’s for someone.

Yes! Every time. Ready again. Who wants Tuna’s?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia madruno harvest
« on: October 31, 2020, 05:59:09 PM »
That is a beauty Brandon!
This is my 6-7 footer going crazy with interior branching now and wishing it had a good spot in the ground to get out of this 25. Still never seen a flower. Originally from Ethan , so I am guessing PR sourced seed.
Should I try grafting a side branch?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold tolerance of cherimoyas
« on: October 31, 2020, 05:50:16 PM »
Cherimoya can be kept and fruited in 15 gallon pots so you could move them into a protected area for winter. Keep them potted for a winter or two and see where and if there is a suitable area to plant.
Some cultivars like HoneyHart can be kept small with pruning, you could go in ground in a greenhouse as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold tolerance of cherimoyas
« on: October 31, 2020, 10:58:11 AM »
Nipomo is right on the coast 500 miles south from southern Oregon.
Southern Oregon should grow great Paw Paws, which is a great alternative to Cherimoya, which will die, even in Grants Pass or any of the more mild winter locations in Oregon. Sorry.

Viva CO-LOM-BIA and the kogi caretakers.
Oooooh spiny, I see.

Does this amazing Lulo never before grown in the US have spines?
Are you sure noone is selling seedlings from these seeds you were selling this Spring and Summer or different kind?
Do you offer other seeds/seedlings from Columbia sometimes?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Reed and Jan Boyce
« on: October 23, 2020, 02:30:52 PM »
I have both of these but timing is not good on the scion right now. February/March is a good time here.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mini mango tasting, SoCal grown
« on: October 23, 2020, 02:27:54 PM »
Less than 100 people.

Seedless Lychee plants were legally imported to FLorida from China in 2014. They were in the 1 year Greenhouse quarantine protocol when , something went wrong..
I do also believe there is always a backdoor way with the way the ruling class, dignitaries , super rich and their associates roll, alot can be done , obviously. Corruption is a common occurrence worldwide.

I know 1 guy that say’s he played an important roll for a ruling family and he said this eliminated any rules of import/export. People are full of it obviously , but this also clearly go’s on.

Also , how do the people that travel to countries looking for rare and unusual species bring those seeds , scions or plants home? Legally,, hahaha

A final example ( all countries are different) , a TFF member visited me from India, i had been holding a plant for him for a year or so, he successfully flew home with the plant

The grass is always greener so if you have something another collector highly covets , the incentive is there to attempt to put those seedless lychee scion in the mail and see what happens.

There is way to request wood from the Hilo station as well, the people that work there said they send out wood when requested , theres surely an email contact on their website. .

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