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San Diego State has one fruiting in their greenhouse.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Paul Thomson Mango
« on: September 27, 2019, 02:46:39 PM »
So this one isn't "Edgehill"?  I found one location that supposedly has it, but haven't checked it out yet.
There are about 15 different trees left on the property and when the property was developed, I don't think they had any idea which mangoes to keep. He may have named this one, and I haven't had the real "Thomson" in years so I'm not sure which one I grafted.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sea Grape
« on: September 26, 2019, 10:36:04 PM »
Does anyone have any experience growing Seagrape in California? I had them in Hawaii and this one has been outside and just flowered for the first time. Any chance of fruit?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Paul Thomson Mango
« on: September 26, 2019, 10:35:12 PM »
I just harvested one of the Paul Thomson's mangoes that I grafted a few years ago, it is from his old place in Vista, it is one of the favorites of the gardeners that now work there. It is very sweet with a bit of piney flavor. Not sure of the name since most info is gone from the old orchard.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is pitomba worth growing for the fruits?
« on: September 26, 2019, 12:30:02 AM »
I have three different seedlings that fruit and one is ok, the others are just not that great. Go for a Cherry of the Rio grande instead. I'm actually taking out my 10 foot tree because I need more sun for my Sapodillas.Plus the Pitomba needs too much water to fruit for us in the desert of San Diego.

Alano is too sweet for me, but it is my most productive. i actually like Makok the best, it is more subtle tasting.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sho shang
« on: September 10, 2019, 07:45:46 PM »
Hey Patrick,

I have one that produces here. The tag says it is "Katherine Anderson hybrid" It tastes ok, but it does have to be really ripe to taste good.

Hi Mark,

Is that the one I brought you one time?  I think Catherine (and the rest of us) never figured out what species that one is.  We suspected it's a hybrid of goumi and something else.

My favorite Elaeagnus is autumn olive -- they're tiny but really tasty.

Hi Barath,

Yes that is the one. I forgot who gave it to me. It is now 9 feet tall.


Seven feet sounds like the largest one I know of in SoCal. So hopefully it will start fruiting in 2-3 years?  Mark, does it grow in flushes or is it always growing on some part of the tree like mine does?

Bill it puts out new growth all year round, we don't get too cold so I'm always looking for buds, maybe a year or two.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sho shang
« on: September 08, 2019, 08:08:11 PM »
Hey Patrick,

I have one that produces here. The tag says it is "Katherine Anderson hybrid" It tastes ok, but it does have to be really ripe to taste good.

Anyone else?  I would think that there has be larger Luc's growing in SoCal. 

I grafted one on an Imbe that is in the ground a few years ago, the Luc's is now 6 feet.

Hi Mark, would you please post a picture of your tree? I’m curious to see what it looks like at that size. Thank you, Nate.

Actually the tree is 7 feet, I just measured it. Here are a couple of photos.

Anyone else?  I would think that there has be larger Luc's growing in SoCal. 

I grafted one on an Imbe that is in the ground a few years ago, the Luc's is now 6 feet.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Miracle fruit berries for sell
« on: August 30, 2019, 08:59:46 PM »
Hi Mark,
I was just wondering if you keep your tree in a pot or if you put it in the ground? Are you keeping bubble wrap around it? I am also in Chula Vista.
I keep mine in a 25 gallon pot in my unheated greenhouse, and then water it with low acidic water.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Miracle fruit berries for sell
« on: August 29, 2019, 10:10:18 PM »
Miracle fruit for sell, $1 each, $3 shipping, available only to USA addresses.


It has to be watered real good now if it is flowering, and also the entire tree must be in total sunlight if you want a complete coverage of fruit. I haven't pruned  mine and they are more compact growers than other lychees.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anonas
« on: November 28, 2018, 12:00:35 PM »
Speaking of bugs and annonas, just in the last couple of weeks there has been a lot of hornworms eating my cherimoya trees.  They did quite a bit of chomping away on a few trees.  I don't go look at the trees closely very often and they had plenty of time to eat away.  Anyone else have these hornworms on their annonas?  Ive only seen them on tomatoes before.
Brad, the "hornworm" that is getting peoples annonas is the Giant sphinx moth (Cocytius antaeus). I know a few people that have been getting them, but I haven't seen any on my trees in Chula Vista.

Out of all the lychee varieties I have "Sweetheart" is blooming at this time of year. Anyone else getting some blooms?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anonas
« on: November 24, 2018, 05:12:12 PM »
Some various annonas ripening, a lot of the atemoyas were pollinated with custard apple pollen.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Unknown fruit? in Mexico
« on: November 23, 2018, 07:18:23 PM »
I'm sure someone knows what this is. It is at my friends place in Cabo, Mexico. Thanks.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafted Luc's garcinia onto Imbe
« on: November 17, 2018, 05:01:06 PM »
Here is an update on the Luc's on Imbe, grafted in August of 2016. I cut the huge male Imbe that was shadowing the Luc's, so maybe some fruit in a few years.


When will you have scions of this variety available.



Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Carica quercifolia...Oak Leaved Papaya
« on: November 10, 2018, 11:25:06 AM »
I've got one in a 10 gallon that is a few feet tall. It has a lot of perlight and stays outside all the time, Right now it is producing tons of fruit, I think as long as it doesn't get real wet roots it should be fine.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: passiflora caerulea blue passion
« on: November 09, 2018, 06:22:09 PM »
Caerulea has hardly any taste.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: want to buy gem avocado scion
« on: October 05, 2018, 04:01:45 PM »
Atkins nursery in Fallbrook had some last week.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: October 01, 2018, 10:56:55 PM »
As mango season approaches and end in SoCal I edit my top ten list once again

I told you that "Señorita" was the best out of the hundred or so we tried last year.

1. Señorita
6.Creme brûlée

I used to work for the AG dept. in the pest prevention program. There are occasional rare individual fruit flies caught in the traps put out, for example back in 1984 my co-worker caught a Queensland fruit fly in San Diego. Every year there are Mexican, Guava, Oriental, Med Flies etc. caught. There are specific lures and trap designs for the melon, med, and oriental fruit fly for example. The Mexican fruit fly is usually caught along with the olive fruit fly and most other harmless diptera (house flies) mostly in the "McPhale" trap which uses the yeast mixture.

Behl, if you suspect you have an "exotic" fly take the larva to your county AG department and they can ID it for you. I doubt that you have an infestation of  exotic  flies because others would be caught in your area where the CDFA places their traps and then there would be a canvassing going on which would require a quarantine of fruit  and trees with fruit being moved in your area.

Thanks Mark, I did just that and I was asked to take closeup picture of larvae and send to them, and they will get back to me with analysis and possible help in providing further traps for their study. They would not give out any lures, which sucks, no one has lures, looks like more gardeners are out of luck on this. One manufacturer was kind to send me few samples of each to try out to see which one works, but refuses to sell.

Behl, if you did find one of the exotic flies on your property, the state would strip all of your cherimoyas, atemoyas, guavas, mangoes etc. and take them away and dispose of them. Even if they found a fly within a mile of your place and they thought it necessary to strip the fruit they would of everyones trees in that radius.

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