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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 12' greenhouse in san diego
« on: March 31, 2018, 10:49:08 PM »
Are you in a canyon near the coast in San Diego?
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Mark, definitely innarch the No Mai Tze. I killed several air layers already. It might even be a good idea to innarch them onto clonal rootstocks that are proven to grow well in our soils like what the articles pineislander linked to suggested.I’ll work on getting you one Simon.
Mark, you may even want to innarch a branch onto your in ground Brewster or Mauritius since we know they are thriving in your soil. Please put me in line for an air layer of your NMT if you are successful!
Simon
Yes I ordered several times and built much of my GH from GH mega store.
No issues.
This stuff is not the same physical fertilizer shape as the osmocote plus on amazon. The amazon stuff is little yellow balls that never disolve. They hollow out but always remain, at least on top of soil.
The pro stuff is small granuals and a few different sizes and colors. Its not all packed into one ball like the plus stuff.
Just go down to your local Poultry ranch, like Hilliker’s in Lakeside and get some manure for your bananas, you’ll have great results.
GH megastore has other osmocote stuff also, they have the 15 9 12 osmocote plus but I have not tried it to see if its the same stuff as amazon.
What I really want is time release 10 5 20 for my bananas. If anyone knows a high potassium time release let me know.
"...since we'll never control outside rodents."?Pretty much they are here to stay, one just has to make their fruit trees unattainable to the rodents with traps, and barriers. In the next few years typical rodent poison will be unavailable in California. A birth control bait will be used in the next few years, it has a real short half life so that it will not affect animals that consume the rodents.
Well, let's just throw in the towel and stop trying to grow any fruit or vegetables.
No blooms on any of my parents' 3 lychees this year. I guess they're resting this one out.Fang,
Be prepared for fruit drops. In China, they have a spray to keep the fruits on. I don't know what's in it. My mom just pinches off all the new leaf growth so the energy goes into the fruits.
I also forget if you're supposed to water or withhold water during flower time. In China, the advice is to withhold water but that's because it rains there and the rain makes the flowers not set fruit. Bottom watering might be different.
That is a very impressive Brewster Mark. How old is it? My Brewster is growing much faster then I thought it would. I'm going to have to give it a heavy pruning every year if I want to keep it contained to the area I have for it.The tree has been in the ground for about 5 years, it has just started giving fruit yearly. It started out as a 3 or 4 foot seedling. I haven't added any thing to the soil and just foliar feed it during the spring and summer with some hi bloom spray.
Does your tree fruit every year?
Bill
Would grafting two 1-year old Lavern manila seedling from HD work?All the time
Yeah come by some time.Grafted ones produce pretty quick. I've got them in one gallons with fruit.
Thanks Mark - I'll have to come see you.
Cherimoyas are definitely doable in San Jose - in some areas you might not even need to protect them. I've had Booth, Pierce, and El Bumpo for 2 winters. Booth and Pierce succumbed last year while El Bumpo was unharmed. I didn't protect them in any way. This year I have 15 different varieties planted so I will get more data on which are the best for our climate.
Nice job, could you share what types you are growing? How large are they? Pots or ground?
In ground I currently have Bays, Behl, Burton, Ecuador, Spain, El Bumpo, Fino de Jete, Pierce, Booth, M&N, Mark Lee, Honeyheart, Vietnamese. They range from 5' to 8' tall. I also have smaller Dr. White, JA and Santa Rosa in pots.
One is, the other 2 get some afternoon shade.I have a section of the yard that I'm planting different types of berries and small fruits and these sound really cool. Is anyone growing these in southern California? Are these large trees or more bushy shrubs? Are there any stand out cultivars that have superior taste?I have 3 different pitomaba varieties growing in south San Diego, they taste kind of like an apricot. Easy plant to grow, just water good when it is flowering.
Are they in full sun?
I have a section of the yard that I'm planting different types of berries and small fruits and these sound really cool. Is anyone growing these in southern California? Are these large trees or more bushy shrubs? Are there any stand out cultivars that have superior taste?I have 3 different pitomaba varieties growing in south San Diego, they taste kind of like an apricot. Easy plant to grow, just water good when it is flowering.
Pitomba in the US is luschnatiania.Me too. 9B 34240 I have been watering them heavily.
I like pitomba better than grumi.
Is that pitomba eugenia luschnatiania or the other one?
Mexicola is a really vigorous and cold hardy rootstock. I leave them outside in 5g pots and they've been through a few frosts this year and last year and have showed no signs of damage.Look into getting the "Aravipa" variety. It was a chance seedling found in a canyon in Arizona where it snows, and gets really hot.
It's hard to say if the plant is beyond saving without seeing pictures. But planting it in the dead of winter is definitely a very risky wager to place haha. If I were you I would potentially consider diging it up, repotting it in well draining soil, watering with warm water and keeping it indoors until spring comes around.