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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nitrogen deficiency?
« on: September 24, 2018, 08:05:28 PM »
Mine is not grafted but from seed.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Keeping Kumquats?
« on: September 21, 2018, 08:29:18 PM »
I like my Meiwa. I eat them like citrus gum balls. Someone on here mentioned making marmalade out of them. Mine just started blooming now. Much later than  last year. I think it didn't like the cold January we had and some of my fruit froze on tree.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nitrogen deficiency?
« on: September 20, 2018, 07:53:05 PM »
We have had a lot of rain this year. However, my other citrus don't look like this. Well drained soil. Did have voles eating nearby guara bush roots though. The tree seems tight in ground but maybe some root damage from voles. My other theory was that it never fully recovered from winter and now the tree is trying to shed the older damaged wood and recover by sending up new suckers from base of trunk.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nitrogen deficiency?
« on: September 19, 2018, 06:49:43 AM »
Thanks, Millet.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nitrogen deficiency?
« on: September 18, 2018, 09:22:10 PM »
Isaac-1, you're right. I should check the pH. I've checked it all over the property before and it's always been about 6.5. I should check at that site though.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Swamp Lemon Adventure!
« on: September 17, 2018, 10:22:32 PM »
I think I may have already alluded to this theory earlier in this post/thread, but the current flood waters in eastern NC are probably not good for any citrus, swamp lemon, or not. Almost all of eastern NC from I95 east is under water. This is not a rare occurrence for this region since rivers there are prone to flooding historically speaking. I didn't see poncyrus in Whiteville area perhaps because they'd been flooded out of existence long ago. The search, however shall continue.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Kumquat x Poncirus
« on: September 17, 2018, 10:09:20 PM »
Maybe it will be similar to a citrangequat but with more poncyrus traits. 

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Grapefruit that grows outside in England
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:58:21 PM »
From what I've briefly researched, London, England has a mild maritime climate with cool summers and warm winters with temps seldom below freezing. I think the citrus grows and survives there because it doesn't freeze much. I agree with you on the poor development of fruit due to lack of warm weather; my two grapefruit trees produce similar fruit to the ones shown here, with large pith and poorly colored flesh. It seldom reaches 90 degrees at my house in NC mountains.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nitrogen deficiency?
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:44:41 PM »
Thanks, Millet.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nitrogen deficiency?
« on: September 17, 2018, 05:32:25 PM »
More pics:

Citrus General Discussion / Nitrogen deficiency?
« on: September 17, 2018, 05:28:21 PM »
Dunstan citrumelo. Has lush green sucker coming from base and rest of tree is yellow. Been fertilizing with miracle grow and super thrive. Suggestions?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: The New High Planting Method In Florida
« on: September 09, 2018, 09:59:56 PM »
Is this because they know the trees will die small from greening,so want to pack a lot of small trees onto a lot to maximize production before having to replant?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Swamp Lemon Adventure!
« on: August 31, 2018, 07:17:30 PM »
They said on the Making it Grow show on Tuesday's on public  TV out of South Carolina that trifoliata is invasive in SC and is actually plugging up creeks and streams there. Coastal NC where swamp lemon supposed to come from is a similar climate with live oaks, cabbage palms, palmetto bushes,etc.  I didn't see anything resembling trifoliata in the immediate vicinity of where it was found in the past, but maybe one day when I have a three day weekend, I'll take my kayak down there and explore waterways.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Paw Paw questions.
« on: August 18, 2018, 07:22:14 PM »
Paw naturally grow on fertile soil along edges river and creeks and in flood planes in the woods. They like drainage and plenty of water. I've seen them and gathered fruit from the wild here in the mountains of NC along sides of creeks in flat areas where creek is about 3 to 5 feet below edge of the flood plain. These grow to be high trees with rather large trunks. They don't like their roots damaged at time of planting and need a long tap root to form before seedling will break surface of soil, hence usually grown from seed in tall pots. My trees are planted on top of a mountain in NC in deep sandy yet black soil with good drainage on a gradual slope, which is not their native habitat; they are found wild in the valley along side river/ creek with better access to water, not on mountain top. Therefore, I make sure to mix plenty of compost into planting site and mulch around trees with homemade shredded leaf/tree matter to help promote moist soil. They don't start to bloom until about 5 feet tall in ground. I wouldn't expect great results over the long term in a pot.  Paw paws are wonderful and strange native trees that unlike other domesticated fruit trees have picky root systems initially, but once established in ground, can withstand some drought and don't need pruning or spraying with insecticide and are pretty much unmolested by deer and bear predation up until harvest, unlike apples and pears and drupes.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pictures from middle Georgia
« on: August 02, 2018, 09:23:03 PM »
Looks like the Southeast Citrus Expo will be in Valdosta November 16 and 17th this year. I hope to attend.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pictures from middle Georgia
« on: August 02, 2018, 09:17:21 PM »
Thanks, Millet.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pictures from middle Georgia
« on: August 02, 2018, 07:20:32 AM »
Best of luck to all cold hardy citrus pioneers!

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: What's infecting my apple tree?
« on: August 01, 2018, 08:34:27 PM »
Looks like white bugs. White fly?  I've never seen an infestation like that on apples before.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pictures from middle Georgia
« on: July 28, 2018, 09:58:35 PM »
Luckycloud, I don't know about your yard, but where I live, mountain top, I get such high winds in winter, I have to use 4x4 wooden frames wrapped in plastic (4mil) and either sink the posts into ground or stake them down with rebar; last winter My new frame didn't last a day, being blown off the ridge in front of my house before I had a chance to stake it down at the end of October. That little greenhouse from Amazon would be flattened by snow/ice if I could stake it down. NC is a different growing experience I think from our comrades in SC and GA.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pictures from middle Georgia
« on: July 27, 2018, 08:03:44 PM »

Luckcloud: this roll-up-a-side-of-yo greenhouse method on warm days has saved me a lot of daily work in the winter.

I have a Dunstan citrumelo that's been in ground from seed 5 years old, some 80-5 citrumelo seedlings planted last fall, some Ichangensis seedlings planted from seed last fall. Thomasville citrangquat coming back fro the roots for the third time in 7 years, and a 13 ft tall Changsha mandarin that was from seed. Done of these have bloomed. I have PT and dragon trees from seed. At least one of my Ichangensis seedlings has trifoliate leaves.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pictures from middle Georgia
« on: July 22, 2018, 09:35:17 AM »
Luckycloud, you may need to use more protection in 7b NC than someone in central GA. I'm in western NCand have been experimenting with "cold hardy citrus " for the past 7 years or so. I've learned the hard way that no citrus or citrus hybrid is hardy here without the protection of a heated greenhouse, except poncyrus trifoliata. Even though my recorded low last winter was 7 degrees, I still lost all of my unprotected citrumelo and other citranges and nansho dai dai, etc, except for one 4 ft tall citrumelo planted out by the road and driveway. The problem here is that it can and does freeze and stay below freezing for days to weeks, and one winter didn't get above freezing for a month. My Owari, Kimbrough, Croxton, Changsha, Meiwa live and produce well each year by being grafted on PT and covering them with 4 mil plastic sheeting over pvc or wooden frames, and heated with small electric space heaters that are controlled by thermocubes that only come on at 35 degrees and turn off at 45 degrees. The trees have to be uncovered or vented/ partially uncovered if possible when temperatures outside get into the fifties so trees don't break dormancy. This past year, my 35 gallon black plastic garbage cans full of water that were next to citranges but uncovered by plastic tents and without heaters froze through and exploded. So, if you are below freezing for days, your satsumas will croak without extra heating.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Snails
« on: July 06, 2018, 09:41:48 PM »
I found small slugs on my grapefruit tree yesterday and noticed small holes in leaves.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pruning in ground citrus?
« on: June 19, 2018, 09:36:05 PM »
I live where if the tree doesn't get covered and have heater inside green house/ tent the tree will definitely die in winter. I've had to prune back select limbs to get frame and cover over a tree, and I've had a huge frame blown off a tree, breaking some limbs in early winter. I've lost limbs when a high tunnel collapsed under weight of snow and ice. I think it's about perspective; if you have to prune some to save life of tree in winter, you loose some potential fruit. Or, you don't prune, and when the big ol' cold monster comes in winter, you're gonna run around in a panic trying to build bigger frames or wack back the tree to save it. I'd do selective pruning in late fall, trying to avoid cutting off maturing fruit if possible, to make sure the tree will fit in your frame so your ready when weather man says the freak mega drop in temperature that wasn't expected is coming tomorrow night.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citrumelo seedlings
« on: June 12, 2018, 08:12:44 PM »
That top pic on far right looks like Ichangensis leaves to me.

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