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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango technique 🥭
« on: January 22, 2021, 04:22:25 PM »
And then what?  Is the skin peeled down like a banana? :P It seems the classic spooned cheek-bowl approach would be more ergonomic.  I've also started getting accustomed to watermelon slicing, from all those tasting vids, for the full spectrum taste experience.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time grafting jitters
« on: January 22, 2021, 04:15:03 PM »
Thanks for the encouragement!  Yeah, that branch will be axed once the next veg flush queues up.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: For Sale: Loquat scion wood
« on: January 22, 2021, 03:36:04 AM »
Great scions!  Got 10/10 takes last year (BJ & VW), with a few holding some fruits currently.  Excited to taste them!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time grafting jitters
« on: January 22, 2021, 03:27:06 AM »
Of the questionable grafts, in one case, the rootstock callus seems to be overgrowing the scion. Is this poor little scion doomed, waiting to get swallowed up at some point?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time grafting jitters
« on: January 22, 2021, 03:13:22 AM »
With the onset of blooming season, I thought I'd recap the past year's efforts.  Waiting for the final tally, since there are a number of laggards, but it's much better than my rookie season.  Still learning some lessons the hard way though.

12 takes (at least 1 flush) and currently starting a new flush:
Juicy Peach
Sweet Tart
Fruit Punch
Seacrest x2
Orange Sherbet x2
Sugarloaf (regraft)
M-4 (regraft)

14 pending
3 that have not yet flushed, but swelling buds now, so looking hopeful that they will ultimately take.
5 fall grafts, just waiting...
3 stalled on a poorly chosen sluggish rootstock.
3 remaining questionable:
Cecilove (weaker scion - had pushed in transit but tried it anyways)
M-4 x2 (difficult variety? also least healthy of the scions)

13 failures
2 partial unions that ended up separating from the top.  More wrapping needed!  Keep on longer.
1 tried to push, twice via different buds, but ultimately failed to take for unknown reasons.
2 regraft attempts with scions that were just too weakened
2 from sap fouling - 1 definitely slipped out, the other may have gotten out of alignment and/or was inhibited from healing. So, that's why they say not to water! Keep rootstock on the drier side before and right after grafting, or pin the grafts?
6 straight failures, but I suspect at least 4 were from improper blade cleaning. Realized later that I wasn't cleaning all the oil off new Schick/box blades well enough. Note to self - clean the full blade before inserting it, since you're going to flip it at some point and then fail to thoroughly clean the other half.

So depending on the laggards, I'll fall somwhere between 33% - 66% on the year, with a fair chunk of the failures from avoidable mistakes.

This year, I plan on just making backups where I can.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple Rack Products?
« on: January 12, 2021, 12:14:30 AM »
It would depend on the brand/model of shelf, but I've had a couple various of the chrome 6 footers, and the legs on all are 2-piece (either slip or threaded joints), so you really get 2 x 3 footers for those.

Forgot to add an idea I've been planning to implement, but haven't gotten around to yet.  Perhaps try used rackable plastic pallets for cheap shelving.  I get them for $12 a piece, and so far have cut them into quarters as bases for my 20g RootTrappers so they're easier to move around.  I have a couple extra that I was planning to cut in half for shelves.  They're pretty beefy, 48x40x6 rated at 1500lbs dynamic load.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple Rack Products?
« on: January 11, 2021, 03:55:15 PM »
Fantastic!  I've wondered about the durability of the other finishes, since the chrome ones haven't held up well even in my garage.  Thanks Carolyn!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which is the best tasting seedless guava?
« on: December 21, 2020, 04:08:17 PM »
I didn't realize there were seedless varieties.  I don't like guavas myself, but my wife loves the crunchy unripe white types, and we have a White Indian.  Any chance someone would know if any of the seedless varieties would be similarly flavored, at the green stage?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Question on Kishu mandarins
« on: December 13, 2020, 10:10:38 PM »
I've had a couple years of great tasting kishus, which have had just enough tang to balance the great sweetness.  This year, however, has been noticeably blander.  Also, the membranes are noticeably tougher this year.  Trying to figure out what I may have done wrong.  I usually quarter them so I can spread out the enjoyment a bit.

First drops, next to purple possum

Remaining fruit from first group

Hopefully, the second group will make it to December

Latest fruits aborting (haven't seen that in purple before)

They are really tart, but that's about it.  If you wait for them to wrinkle up, they lose the tart, but not much flavor left.  I'm thinking to juice them while tart and then I can add sugar to taste.  Not sure how best to juice them though.  I lose a lot of pulp with just a sieve.
 Wife eats them with salt.  I don't know if the flavor will change next year, but if not, they'll be replaced with purples.  Tried to pollinate some with purple pollen, but no luck so far.  Also tried the reverse, but not sure since the purple pollinates itself too easily, so not sure if those fruits will have any flavicarpa crossed seeds.  Might keep one vine for future crossing experiments.

Similar experience.  Planted this spring from germination last August.  Requires hand pollination.  First fruit in October.  Takes about 3 months from pollination to fruit drop.  I haven't tried pollinating any since September though, since I'm not expecting them to hold any through winter.  Some of the last pollinated fruits have started aborting, but that could also be due to massive caterpillar attacks also.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Purple Possum Passiflora not putting out
« on: November 12, 2020, 11:49:43 AM »
It should get there eventually.  Ours didn't produce much for 4 years, but has picked up the last 2.  To be fair, it was pretty neglected, so perhaps that could have been accelerated.  Hand pollination not required here.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: November 06, 2020, 11:56:15 PM »
I also ordered a pinky and was far from impressed.  It did have a very slightly different flavor, but I got a really unripe one.  The bottom half might have been slightly less tart than store golds, but the unripe half had way more bromelain than I've ever experienced.  I might occasionally feel an itch if I don't pick well at the store, but this one was a real burn, and it lasted till the next day.  Real pain from one of my favorite fruits - WTF!

btw, if you're adventurous, if you let the product sit in your cart at the east coast store, you might get a $10 paypal offer after a couple days to entice you into doing something you shouldn't

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Comparison of 3 top Pomegranate varieties
« on: November 01, 2020, 09:19:23 PM »
Interesting about the Parfianka maturing.  I have that, Angel Red, and Eversweet.  The Parfianka is just really intensely flavored.  I'm probably the only one who will eat them, but not more than one at a time.  Most of my family, extended included, prefer the bland but aptly named Eversweet.  I'm the only one who will eat Parfianka, but only one at a time.  I still prefer Angel Red, and my daughter is starting to enjoy the full flavor of it also.  I was considering removing Parfianka this year, but perhaps I will hold onto it a little longer to see if or how it changes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is my Passion Vine Self Fruitful?
« on: October 21, 2020, 10:39:14 PM »
I have a purple possum edulis and unknown yellows (probably flavicarpas), so not a lot of reference here, but just to add some observations.  They both don't get that purple blush on the petals, just straight white.  The purple has the freckled styles and filaments, whereas the yellow does not (or at least I haven't noticed it yet).  Both can get red/purple tinge on stems, although the purple only gets it on hardened sun-exposed areas of stems.  The purple is much smaller such that our local honeybees can easily bump their butts against the stigmas.  The yellow is larger and I have to hand pollinate them since I don't have any large bees in this area.  I haven't yet had luck crossing purple onto yellow, but I've read that yellow can cross onto purple, and yellow can obviously go onto yellow, but you'd need another vine from a different seed.  Good luck with your pollination attempts and hopefully it will fruit so you can narrow down what kind it is.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mini mango tasting, SoCal grown
« on: October 20, 2020, 02:37:29 PM »
Are the Indian mangoes still available currently?  I'd make the drive to grab some.  I didn't expect much from the KPs, given the travel distance, but was a bit surprised by the VPs.  The ripe VPs were great, but not overly better than regular fare.  But if underripe ones have that pineyness, I'll be avoiding them going forward.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mini mango tasting, SoCal grown
« on: October 20, 2020, 03:27:48 AM »
I've been curious what the "resin" taste is like?  I've not had the chance to sample as many different types, so trying to pin down that characteristic.  I've tried some imported Kensington Pride that had what I might consider a resinous aftertaste, although I might stretch it further to more of a gasoliney flavor.  Perhaps a closer resin hint I've tasted would be in some lesser ripened Valencia Pride.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bite marks
« on: October 15, 2020, 06:04:09 PM »
Any idea what critter may have gotten to this reed?

I used to lose a bunch being hollowed out overnight.  Presuming rats, I added flashing around the trees, and haven't lost any so far since then.  This MO is new to me, unless it's still a rat and just got interrupted before finishing it up.  In the area, I've seen squirrels, opposums, raccoons, and skunks, but none of them yet on the avocados.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: something cool or possibly stupid
« on: October 15, 2020, 03:00:51 PM »
Good luck!  I just tried this earlier as well.  Kent seeds planted in July, grafted onto end of August.  I tried with a side cleft so that the branch would remain active rather than having the seedling abort the branch and put out a new sprout.  Just cut and bent them yesterday to retain the leaves for as long as they can help out.



If the seedlings were thicker at the time, I'd do it as high as possible, just in case the grafts fail I could reuse the same seedling.  I ended up real low since these were the only seedlings thick enough I had at the time.

Kiwis aren't supposed to come true from seed, so no guarantees on what you'll get.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zills top tier Mango Sugar Loaf
« on: October 12, 2020, 04:45:42 PM »
The color is possibly sunscreen.  Trees on the west side of my house that only get sun past noon have less intense coloration on new growth than those on the south side.  They tend towards bronze vs red or purple.  Pushes from lower, shaded branches are also less colored than terminal exposed pushes.  Nutrient availability may also play a role, as neglected plants or straggler buds in a given flush push weaker paler growth.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: backyard composting
« on: October 08, 2020, 02:45:38 PM »
I do wonder about what might come in on a bag, whether it would be pesticides, herbicides, antibiotics, random trash, etc., but I also don't like the packaging.  That's probably the only save the planet part, since every little bit counts.  What if it was dried, then packaged in a paper bag?  Just toss it on the ground and water it in.  Done.  Compost pods.

That said, I just chop & drop in place mostly.  Kitchen fruit waste is harder as it attracts/breeds all kinds of stuff.  I used to just dig holes in random places and bury a bucket at a time, but have run out of spots.  Not a large yard.  Just started a couple slow fungal compost piles to see how they go.  Want to try out a worm bin at some point.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pine bark uses for 5-1-1 potting mixes
« on: October 08, 2020, 02:20:35 PM »
I have to go to a local soil place for smallish nuggets, but still too big for fines.  Since Earthgro seems to have disappeared locally (miss the mini nuggets), I've been mixing some of this stuff as a filler.  It's got bark, but too much softwood.  I've been using it for less demanding needs and just adding extra N to feed.  After a season or so, I'll recycle it as partially composted fines.

A few of them are already blasting out some new tip growth. Excellent scions, thank you!

Congrats!  Looks like my driver took 405 S instead of N >:(, but still hoping it works out in the end.

Great cuttings, and much larger than I had imagined!  Trying to just root them all, but maybe I'll try grafting them onto other vines one day.  Very curious how they will compare in taste to purples.

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