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Simon to describe and elementwise the flavours like rose water, must etc and then rate would be hard. A seasoned campaigner will know to pull the stem at an angle to allow clean skin removal without membrane remaining or juice from ruptured flesh. The challenge then is to quickly lift a lip of flesh and tear down or unfurl without losing juice alternatively just eat the whole peeled fruit.
The link was just to the Atherton Tableland evaluations at one facility on basaltic krasnozem soil. Might turn out differently in other places but not radically I think. Most varieties have a few selection so that can account for a bit of the variation but not too much.


Found a carpet a few weeks ago and I am showing it to someone here. They were amethystine and common tree snakes. Of all the local snakes I would only see maybe only 10 species around the yard.

My week has been filled with reptile in the yard issues so bnb it's happening all over.

And one thing more. Optimism is high for another round of heavyweight contenders in the lychee realm with Taiwanese/Australian cooperation  in trialling new types.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: No ordinary Garcinia dulcis
« on: November 23, 2020, 04:39:20 AM »
You're a smooth operator Rob and I haven't forgotten the passionfruit.

One more thing. Most lychee areas (1000 miles north to south) had comparative evaluations of types here such as the one for warmer types for the Atherton Tablelands in the link and I would imagine similar evaluation would be around in Florida, southern Queensland and California even if old and dated. New glamorous types are omitted sure but getting varieties identified correctly is important. Popular types like haak yip and tai so have not been one standard thing for over 50 years.

I will tell you what is wrong with chacapat or chakrapad as I would spell it. They may be whoppers averaging a hefty 35g but they are too sour and are rated poor by most evaluations.By contrast haak yip is clearly superior in taste and flash yield but averages under 25g. Ohia is haak yip and to add to the confusion many of the similar souey tung are incorrectly labelled as haak yip.42 varieties were evaluated at a state government facility in my area at Mareeba in the 1970s and 80s and very few passed their final exams.
Test a few lychees on the scale and see what a monster 40g is and haak yip should be no where near that. I believe the Brewster being shan chi error has not landed with Brewster being correctly identified still.
I think it has been lychee overload for some and you're getting sick of me rambling.

They are very popular here and I see trees hanging over fences when walking down my road. Being a plucker I sample a few here and there and they are a respectable fruit on some trees.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenias
« on: November 20, 2020, 11:56:07 PM »
When it comes to Eugenias believe only half of what you see and very little of what you read. If you have large black unifloras covered hen pyriformis x luescens and pitomba as well as itaguensis should be on he hit list and oh yeah lutescens also.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: No ordinary Garcinia dulcis
« on: November 20, 2020, 11:40:02 PM »
I know where it is now so will return to he scene of the crime. What struck me is how handsome the tree and its surrounding off spring of fruiting age were. The conical form and hanging foliage with a purplish bar on young petioles was a bit different from standard dulcis I looked at earlier today.

Sorry,  sum yee hong.

LL the pic from the link has tubercles correct but is the wrong red colour and not exactly the right shape with some fruit not being conical enough. Maybe look at n old thread where I posted pics of large 50g FZS which were redder than the standard form. They are distinctive. Haak yip looks wrong in some pics I have seen posted also. Besides FZS, erdom lee and sansuelin there is only really one other big lychee (routinely over say 40g) and that is Yook ho pow which is also called

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: No ordinary Garcinia dulcis
« on: November 20, 2020, 11:19:45 PM »
Russell sweet is dioecious and dulcis is mono. Unlike say xanthochymus whuich are pretty standard dulcis comes in a variety of forms most noticeable by differing foliage and there is also a spectrum of fruit taste from sour to sweet. Proper sweet ones are much less common that sweet/sour. I only got a few fruit so don't have many seeds. I can get loads of seeds of the sweet/sour types.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Has Anyone Heard of Eugenia’Restinga’?
« on: November 20, 2020, 09:54:50 PM »
No I believe no one has ever heard of such a species. Maybe Eugenia rotundifolia/punicifolia or luschnathiana of the restingia they may have heard of.

hey also handle prolonged dry periods well and enjoy full sun.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / No ordinary Garcinia dulcis
« on: November 20, 2020, 09:34:15 PM »
This morning while checking out what is around the parks and streets and monitoring where things are at some fruit were collected. othing special was seen.

Some G.dulcis and achachairus were around and look alright.

A roadside Garcinia caught my eye and it was unlike he dulcis and xanthochymus trees I had been looking at an hour earlier. It had big leaves that really hung down.

And fruit also

Wow these fruit are really good and better than other dulcis I have tried being sweet and peach like.This is how dulcis got its name the elusive truly sweet dulcis. A lucky find from a seeds out a car window maybe 30 years ago.It wasn't planted and is competing with native trees for sun and space.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic lychee management
« on: November 20, 2020, 09:15:09 PM »
Oscar Kwai mai pink and tai so Mauritius are at the limits of bearing before  there isn't enough chill and kaimana is a 3rd variety starting muscle in at this frontier. Going upslope or south more varieties kick in and heading north no varieties fruit or rarely do.Rain during flowering like for mangoes is a perennial issue.

Being descended from criminal stock has its advantages and there is an imposing variety of tropical fruits regardless of restrictions.

Yes it is oppressive however slippery stuff routinely passes through the fine mesh.

Lilly Pillies are just a group of related Syzigiums and in my area there are around 20 species. S.gonatanthum is a rare NG species that can grow big and nothing much is published on them. Many have a sour apple taste to the fruit but some are more bland. Talisia are like Meliccocus and rather like a longan with thin flesh and there are quite a few species. Would be great if people can report on flavour of some types.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: November 20, 2020, 04:06:46 PM »
Great pix of the fruit selection there.Be good to hear about comparative tastes and seen inside some.

I have only looked at he pics and they are FZS from what I saw. Could be labelling issues with others that identify as sweetheart. Interestingly FZS now has a couple of selections with a larger fruited form which I posted about a few years ago.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria guaquiea
« on: November 20, 2020, 03:49:02 PM »
Mine is pretty big at about 6years old and hasn't fruited yet.

They should be softer fleshed with quite pliable skin which yields  little under pressure rather than cracking easily. Green fruit are a bit more edible than most

Bingo there is nothing else they can be, Concubine laughing.

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