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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Choquette Avacado harvest in July??
« on: July 08, 2020, 09:52:19 PM »
I've had Choquette hanging till end of january. However, holding them so late resulted in not enough time for Flowering in February/March.

look up sooty mld usually there is a scale insect and/or ant nexus. Sometimes you need to look at an overhead tree to find the source.

BSBullie you are one guy I can never say a negative word to because your opinions allowed my orchard to be like heaven BUT please come down and visit my place some day because it will be eye opening for you especially for trees growing on solid rock!!
Don't you have a recent video showing the planting? If you can point out the age of your older trees that would help.

One row at my place is of smaller trees. Graham, Cogshall, Harvest Moon Juliette, Jean Ellen, Springfels.
Out of these the most compact is Springfels, then Graham. Springfels makes just a few huge mangos but is the smallest, yet the canopy is rather thin and open..
Graham has a unique short internode growth habit which makes the canopy very dense, it needs more internal canopy thinning than most.

One other to try in the pine range might be Jean Ellen. It is fibrous, and some don't like it. One thing about it is has been a great producer for me the last two years loaded and very clean, fruit hanging on till turning yellow near tree ripe.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Preferred irrigation in Orchard
« on: July 03, 2020, 08:46:25 PM »
You can consider the spinners by Antelco.

I also like Carrie, they sell well too. Always very productive and clean. So much I planted 10 more trees

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question about pest on my papayas?
« on: July 03, 2020, 08:40:13 PM »
The problem is usually far less in cooler months.

If it is outside it will move in even under landscape fabric.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Peach Cobbler Mango ripening
« on: June 29, 2020, 08:10:08 PM »
I ran across this video which explains general detection of ripening. The idea of different color ribbons installed during bloom is interesting.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too much fruit harms society ?
« on: June 29, 2020, 08:06:15 PM »
Alcoholism is a personal problem which doesn't have so much to do with fruit or even alcohol production.
I grow far more than I can eat and also make wine but don't drink to excess. Today I started a batch of pineapple peel wine from 15 fresh home grown pineapples. I have bottles of wine from 3 years ago when I am invited somewhere I walk with a bottle or two to share. Anybody want to invite me to dinner?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Strange papaya seeds?
« on: June 29, 2020, 07:38:45 PM »
what is the source of the photos? People fake stuff all the time, usually they leave out lots of information so you can't check anything.

Energy of tree is going to fruit instead of branches. Weight of fruit is making branches droop down. Remove fruit for a couple of years and maybe it will put energy into growing tree instead of fruit then grow bigger. Once tree is bigger it can give you many more than 6-8 fruits.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cinnamomum zeylanicum when to pug?
« on: June 25, 2020, 10:16:10 PM »
Tipping the top will cause branching like any other tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My New Muntingia Tree
« on: June 20, 2020, 10:07:23 PM »
Muntingia has been one of the true beasts I have planted. Beware of trying to chop it back it returns stronger than ever, with a vengeance.

Also... what do people do with Florida avocados?  I tried making guac with one and it was terrible.  Eating one out of hand was ok I guess.
Just like California peaches which finally make their way to Florida but were picked way too green and taste like tough cardboard likely the Florida avocado you got was picked far too early. Since our season has many risks if fruit is left on the tree many growers have fruit picked at the bare minimum of ripeness, when the fruit is barely mature enough to soften.

If left on, the fruit bumps each other and becomes defective, rubs on branches, gets knocked off in thunderstorms, attacked by scab, eaten by squirrels, stolen by thieves. The problem is worsened by indiscriminate pickers who may not know the difference between ready and unready fruit.

If left on to mature properly the oil content comes up, the better varieties here can certainly match Hass quality, some have flavor not found in Hass and of course are far larger.

Looking at the pictures posted in the forum, it seems that many people use micro-sprinklers. Can people who use micro-sprinklers provide information about which one they use and how well do they work for them.
Thank you

Check out the Antelco line of rotor sprays. The vari- rotor offers a control valve on each rotor for infinite control.
The sprayers thread onto plastic extension risers 6-18 inches tall, the risers plug directly into main vinyl tubing.
I support the riser using tywraps to 2 ft long pieces of 9 gauge galvanized high tensile wire normally used at the bottom of chain link fencing. The orifices seldom clog.

The standard worldwide is lime, it was discussed in the link. As local cacao farmers about it I read that Trinidad has plenty of acidic soils.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Buying Ice Cream Bean Seeds?
« on: June 15, 2020, 06:34:23 PM »
Last year I planted two seeds in each of 120 locations direct seeded in the ground. I watered them by hand a few times while germinating and got over 75% takes. We have a long winter dry season and while they didn't grow much they almost all survived with no care at all and are growing again quickly now. At the same time I planted about a dozen pots in the shade house and gave them ordinary care, those are twice as large. If one had irrigation available and places to plant direct in the ground I would suggest doing so with these, they are very forgiving and might do much better than in pots.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to start bagging guava fruit?
« on: June 15, 2020, 07:18:20 AM »
I found when I bagged too early, very soon after fruit set, it increased fruit drop maybe due to the bag increasing humidity during the rainy season. When I waited a while longer to quarter size I didn't have the problem. I suppose it depends on the guava and bag size but using 6x9 inch bags if I bagged two fruits in one bag they got stuck so I decided to thin down to one fruit/cluster.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Buying Ice Cream Bean Seeds?
« on: June 15, 2020, 07:12:40 AM »
I mean, tastes like ice cream, melts like cotton candy...yum. .
Keep an eye on and search the buy and sell forum for keyword inga, even ask for it in a posting. Usually someone wil sell be aware the seeds often are sprouting when you open the pods so be prepared to plant immediately. It may be a bit overhyped but is nevertheless a valuable tree in many ways.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to Carambola?
« on: June 14, 2020, 07:39:34 AM »

Its has been doing just fine until I saw this a few months ago. Hopefully your solution can help.
But you said it is six years old and is only six feet tall. A healthy carambola can make six feet in two years even with pruning and can bear fruit every year even the first year so your tree has likely been struggling for years.

I'm currently having a new house built. The soil quality of fill and compaction material is a really big deal.
A new house with septic system nowdays has to be 2 feet or so above grade on "soil" which is such poor quality very little will grow on it, it slops out about 6-10 feet away from the house. I can tell by what weeds I see on it now during construction. My plan before landscaping is to remove as much of it as possible and replace with better soil to grow on.


Wood chips have no nitrogen thats why they decompose soo hard. Wood chips will draw somme nitrogen out of the soil in order to break down and if you add N fertiliser for your tree then somme of that N will be taken by the wood chips and you will notice it will break down faster.
In my climate and biome the wood and leaf chips and all biomass serve as food for arthropods, millipedes and their relatives, not just fungi and bacteria. They consume it directly and it gets decomposed through their bodies with internal flora converting directly to feces so bypassing the nitrogen loss. As it passes through their gut it becomes innoculated and comes out as small pellets of manure. They also consume green material. Here is a photo of how they ate mango leaves on the ground after pruning, after about two weeks, only the skeletal veinal web remained. This is a good reason to not depend on pesticides or fungicides since they limit what these decompsers can get done. They work night and day by the millions across my land.

Vigo if you are talking Tithonia rotundifolia that one has lots of good viable seeds but it is an annual plant.
I much prefer the Tithonia diversifolia which has very low (nearly sterile) seed production but grows easily from woody cuttings and is perennial. Those advantages make it one of the workhorses of chop/drop. A friend recently made a video, see his comments at 4:40:

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