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I should add the tree has always appeared healthy, never had any issues with disease, fungus or pests, gets full sun all morning, partial sun in afternoons, has never dropped leaves and survived hurricane irma :)

I guess some will call it a good problem to have, but I have an alano sapodilla I guess around 6-7 years old (from a 3 gallon). It's  around 7 feet tall, but the thing is it reached that height over 3 years ago.

Since then it's been in a constant cycle of fruiting and any growth has been negligible, occasional leaf growth. At any given time theres 20-30  fruit in various stages and it flowers every few months. 

The fruit are good, but I want the tree to grow. I try to push growth by fertilizing and other nutrients more regularly than I would, I've never pruned it just because growth is so few and far between. Any suggestions?

Oh I should add that it's technically on ground. But it was planted a 25 gallon pot partially sunken (to get around some HOA rules for the front yards) about 4 years ago and it's roots have long ago broken into the ground.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is blooming?
« on: October 28, 2019, 11:18:31 PM »
Dwarf june plum (always blooming and fruiting) and Alano sapodilla..

This year so far the flavor of the fruit from my Pickering has been underwhelming. The Glenn has gone from excellent to meh from fruits picked at the same time. The good ones are great.

My Julie seedling (Juicy Lucy) has been the best this year and right behind it the Madame Francis. Go figure.

How long did Juicy Lucy take to bear?

As a 4 year old (I think) seedling I got from a friend, it was only a couple of years. I grafted cuttings from it onto a store bought mango and the two I gave away have both fruited really well in less than four years.

Lucy is not affected by anthracnose like her parent, is extremely precocious and really needs fruit to be thinned to get larger fruits. My tree has not been top pruned and she's still under 12' tall.

The first couple of years the fruit was underwhelming, but now it's very good, the one graft I did I have knowledge of fruited this year and they are exactly like Lucy, juicy, sweet, fiberless and have the distinctive Julie "proboscis" :-)

Very cool, could you post a pic of the fruit? Plan on selling any grafted trees at some point?

Anywhere in Broward County I could get a couple decent sized scotch bonnet pepper plants?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indoor lychee drying out
« on: February 10, 2019, 08:16:30 AM »
So while my lychee is sick due to neglect, I had it indoors and it also has a serious case of drying out. I had brought my tropicals into the screened porch back when we had a cold snap about 2 weeks ago, and didn't water anything (busy work week etc etc). My lychee took a beating, it still has some green leaves so I'm hoping I can resuscitate it.

I gave it some rainwater. Wanted to upsize the pot this spring but thinking it is now too stressed so maybe next year. Any suggestions or should I just leave it alone and hope it survives?


My suggestion would be to get it in the ground in a month or so when it warms up. You seem to have the space from the photo..Jax doesn't often freeze for too long right? And perhaps you can find the location on your property with the best winter microclimate. Ultimately the tree will be happier and healthier in the ground.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar apple question
« on: August 20, 2018, 02:39:48 PM »
Getting some inquiries and I'm happy to respond...

I just want to be clear first that I don't know if this is a true seedless variety, if it's just a temporary condition or whatever. The handful of sugar apples I got from this tree had no seeds, I figured maybe it just needed to mature or with that disclaimer out of the way......

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar apple question
« on: August 19, 2018, 10:31:32 PM »

A little context this is a 3 or 4 year old tree in a pot, I've gotten maybe half a dozen fruit to maturity between this summer and last summer and none have had seeds.

Variety unknown...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar apple question
« on: August 19, 2018, 09:52:08 PM »
You dont need to wait till soft to pick a sugar a matter of fact I personally dont recommend it (the rish if insexts or vermin getting to it or the splat factor is great). 

Whether red or green type, it will lighten in color, especially around the sections, and the sextions will seperate.  If picked properly and hard, will soften up in a day or two and be perfect eating (exxept for the high seed count).

My sugar apple tree produces fruit with no seeds? How common is that?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anona season approaches
« on: August 09, 2018, 11:21:07 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anona season approaches
« on: August 09, 2018, 09:08:44 PM »
Unfortunately that was a one off chance of shipping my way? Or do any of the local growers there ship to south Florida? I'm happy to pre-pay for shipping.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anona season approaches
« on: August 09, 2018, 08:44:18 PM »
I've been all mango'd out for about a month now ...and mangos are still widely available down here, but I can hardly eat another one. It's this time of year I get jealous of S. Cal guys as we just dont have the conditions for the variety of annonas like you.

So how can I get my hands on some of these fruit down here in so. Fla this season? Please let me know how and who to order from.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ackee Trees and Small Children and Pets
« on: August 03, 2018, 11:57:48 AM »
I think Iím going to move forward. Iíll put it on a fence line in case I ever want to section it off. I agree, they are beautiful trees, perfectly suited to our south Florida climate. I also have an affinity towards fruits you can cook with in a salt dish, like breadfruit, avocado, unripe jack, etc

Oh, and thank you all for the feedback. At the end of the day itís on me, but my experience with the fruit is limited so I wanted some feedback

Sounds good, sectioning it off certainly doesn't hurt, as won't mentioning to you daughter when she can comprehend, not to eat unopened/uncooked's something that was told to us as kids and that was that.

.Again I have never personally known anyone on the island to have suffered ackee poisoning or even any moderate sickness, having grown there up til  entering adulthood, nor in the 20 something years since while still being very connected there - and again trees are literally everywhere; yards, sidewalks and randomly at the side of the roads, schools, parks and public lands, whatever and wherever.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ackee Trees and Small Children and Pets
« on: August 03, 2018, 11:00:21 AM »
Iíve been wanting to plant an Ackee tree on our property but Iím concerned about our 1 year old daughter and our dogs if God forbid they get ahold of unripe fruit. How concerned should I really be? Opinions? Recommendations? Experiences?

Let me know what you think

Nothing to worry about in my opinion .. grew up on the island and ackee trees grow literally everywhere, around kids, dogs, whatever and nothing ever happens, the absolute worst case scenarios you read about that simply do not happen in real life in the place where ackee trees and every day interaction with them are most common.

If you have the space, my opinion is the tree is totally worth it, easy to grow and manage, productive and a beautiful shade tree.

Nice trees..why not put them in the ground?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: looking for a sweet mango
« on: July 24, 2018, 09:16:51 AM »
When it comes to overrated mangos.. personally I think lemon zest is the absolutely most overrated mango (blasphemy right? :) )

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: looking for a sweet mango
« on: July 24, 2018, 09:11:49 AM »
Per what he's looking for NDM is a great fit. And re the heavy criticism above..many people like myself who have tasted all the newer varieties and grow many of them for years ..still absolutely love a good NDM and don't  just eat them because other people say they should.

Mine were fantastic this year, and not every ripe NDM is only sugary sweet...mine had some complexity this season especially the later ones which had some acidity and rose notes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Site Outage
« on: July 16, 2018, 07:41:19 PM »
This place has taught me so much..happy to contribute...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangoes purchased from neighbors
« on: June 19, 2018, 03:50:46 PM »
Dosent look like Haden to me either. I've been enjoying some random seedlings mangoes picked in the Coral Gables area that my co-worker has been giving me. Thought very fibrous, they have been very sweet with that classic mango flavor- and seemingly bullet proof to anthrac spots. Sad to say even killing some bland Pickerings I've been having from my pampered tree in Broward this season. I wish there was a way to have a Mango Seedling competition.

Yes seedling competition that would be great. My parents super old Haden treeís season is almost over, besides the jelly seed when you pick fruit right they are amazing not only in looks but in taste.

 So looking for other sources now since my parents tree is out, my trees are too young, and Lemon zest only tree with fruit is still not ripe. So Iíve been buying from neighbors, have my eye on one who sells Valencia prides from what has to be the biggest tree Iíve seen, but they arenít ripe yet.

Nice backsplash

Mango trees flower and fruit throughout the year in Jamaica.
With the summer months being the heavy season.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Total Mango Harvest From 2018
« on: June 14, 2018, 09:47:59 PM »
If these are your own trees, is there a reason why you harvested them so early?

Yeah...The Pickerings seem especially green.. they look several weeks from read to pick imo.

Great haul tho!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Mangos of 2018
« on: June 11, 2018, 08:20:12 PM »
Pickering first up for me this season..a couple were bland the latest few I have picked were much sweeter (though not as full flavored as previous seasons).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Picking Pickering mango question
« on: June 10, 2018, 05:40:23 PM »
Do these look ok to pick from the tree now and let them fully color up in the kitchen?  We have a few squirrels around (and random gardeners) and I'd hate to lose one of the 3 mango's I have from my Pickering.

I'd give it a few more days to get rid of some of the remaining green.. when they look like that ..3-5 days should be enough to turn it fully yellow ..

and as said above, they should take literally no effort to pick when ripe ..the slightest move of the fruit's stem should make it come off in your hand when ripe.

Of course if the squirrels are eyeing it up (luckily I don't have any in my subdivision) you can pick it now and it should still ripen up well after a few days (based on the pics).

So lots of flowers and no fruit set...took advice and didnt hand pollinate.

As long as your tree is big enough to hold fruit I'd absolutely start hand pollinating. For me my Dream from Wayne on Dream seedling roots hasn't done great with natural fruit set. That could partially be because I've got it a little crowded with other trees nearby, but a Gefner I've got in similarly crowded conditions definitely sets a higher percentage on its own. Even with varieties that set well on their own, hand pollination is still recommended because you will tend to get more complete pollination which means larger fruit.

Ok some more flowers are coming along, so will try...and yeah the tree is plenty big enough.

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