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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New annona whitefly ?
« on: September 03, 2019, 02:49:02 PM »
Yes, I think I saw it on my pepper plants. Very tiny white flies. Surprisingly guavas do not attract them. Im in Jupiter

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Congratulations! Re potential whiteflies: I used soapy water and a very soft toothbrush. Brushed each and every leaf with soap. It looks like they are gone for good. No whitefly since April. It might be a lot of work in your case (tree is bigger). But a thing to consider.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pedalai looks like a giant rambutan
« on: August 07, 2019, 03:14:01 PM »
I saw they have pedalai in the offer at Excalibur. Have anyone bought from them? Are they grafted?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Iguana Wars
« on: August 07, 2019, 03:04:17 PM »
We have a little off-topic here.
So, I checked the southeast Asian carp. Definitely not what is considered a carp in Europe.
We have Royal Carp. A delicacy. Very fat, melting flesh, hundreds of ways to cook and serve it. Whichever way you pick, it tastes great. As long as the fish is fresh and good quality :)

Really, no surprise Americans don't eat carp. I do not blame them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Iguana Wars
« on: August 07, 2019, 12:41:16 PM »
SeaWalnut, have you ever tried carp in the US? It is not the one you know from Europe. No wonder nobody wants to eat this.
I once served it to my guests and had to apologize manifold. Such an embarrassment.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Internal Breakdown in Honey Kiss Mango
« on: August 06, 2019, 12:59:09 PM »
It was a failed try of a beginner advising a pro :)
I hope you will find a better solution!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Iguana Wars
« on: August 06, 2019, 10:38:56 AM »
I saw no iguanas in Jupiter, but tens of the Jesus lizards, including in my backyard  >:(
Does anybody know the pest potential of these? I read they are invasive but nothing about what damage, if any, they cause.
My trees are too young to have fruit, but I should think in advance.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to my jackfruit tree?
« on: August 06, 2019, 10:36:16 AM »
Thank you all for all the information and suggestions. I started this topic being completely at a loss and now I am pretty sure I will be able to grow a jackfruit successfully.

Sahai1, what are the sacks in your last picture?
After reading your post, I decided to always replace soil when planting. I cannot do the entire procedure with burning etc because I live in town center, but the soil from Lowe's is surprisingly good.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to my jackfruit tree?
« on: August 01, 2019, 08:52:59 PM »
Hi, you are missing the point.. plant the seeds directly in the ground, jackfruit planting is not really planting, they should sit above or a just a bit under loose dirt with plenty of shade, so if the area you want to plant is getting full sun, build a square shadenet house around it.

By planting direct in the ground, the tree will acclimate to the conditions better.  Also the seedlings have quite a lot of nutrients to push the taproot deep and to the right level, and it can help 'push' up the tree to where it needs to be survive.  None of that can be done if started in a pot.  Also since planting a bunch, a few dying is not a big deal, and those seeds may have survived in the pot, but not survive when planting after raising in a pot.

What do you think about how I should proceed with the seedlings? Better keep replanting them in bigger pots and then plant in the ground or stop at 3 gallons and then plant in the ground? The biggest pot I have is 15 gallon.


Sahai1, let me ask another question: In the spot that I put the seed (above ground), should I fill the hole with tree and shrub soil from the store? I know nurseries advise against it, but I am afraid there is something seriously wrong with my soil. The plants that I planted in holes filled with store-bought soil grow very well, with others I have mixed results.

Also, when you advise germinating in the ground directly, do you mean I should later graft? I do not mind if the tree grows big. I plan to plant in the front yard. No electric wires, enough room for roots. I have never done any grafting and I read in this forum that jackfruits are true to seeds.

And a question for Floridians: I read what you wrote about fruit thieves... But I live in a safe neighbourhood in central Jupiter, not a gated community. I see that all of my neighbors' mangos stay on trees the entire season... Under these circumstances, would you risk having a jackfruit in your front yard? If otherwise, the spot seems perfect...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to my jackfruit tree?
« on: August 01, 2019, 01:24:24 PM »
Ohhh, got it. Now I need to buy another jackfruit :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tony Morris Red Jackfruit
« on: August 01, 2019, 11:47:16 AM »
Yes, I also love Excalibur :) I love coming there for plants and fruits.

I had a great experience at Excalibur. Tom was super helpful and took us around.
Kudos to him.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to my jackfruit tree?
« on: August 01, 2019, 11:44:59 AM »
JoeP450, yes I think I will need to start fertilizing high nitrogen. Your leaves are so healthy dark green, mine are fluorescent green.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to my jackfruit tree?
« on: August 01, 2019, 11:42:47 AM »
And this is (was) mai1 that lost all leaves, got overlooked and run over by lawn mower. It grows new leaves from rootstock that look pretty healthy. Does anyone remember what rootstock Excalibur uses?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to my jackfruit tree?
« on: August 01, 2019, 11:38:52 AM »
It looks like you may have not followed the recommendations for planting:
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Many areas in Florida have sandy soil. Remove a 3 to 10 ft (0.93.1 m) diameter ring of grass sod. Dig a hole 3 to 4 times the diameter and 3 times as deep as the container the jackfruit tree has come in.


Have a look at ditches in your area. If they are holding water pretty full you have conditions of a high water table.
You could also just dig a hole in the area of the tree and check it after a few rainy days. If there is standing water in the hole you have position which tends to waterlog. In that case the recommendations are to plant on a mound.

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Jackfruit trees are not tolerant of continuously wet and/or flooded soil conditions. Trees may decline or die after 2 to 3 days of wet soil conditions

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Many areas in Florida are within 7 ft (2.1 m) or so of the water table and experience occasional flooding after heavy rainfall events. To improve plant survival, consider planting fruit trees on a 2 to 3 ft (0.60.9 m) high by 4 to 10 ft (1.23.1 m) diameter mound of native soil. After the mound is made, dig a hole 3 to 4 times the diameter and 3 times as deep as the container the jackfruit tree has come in.

An easy way to make the mound is to just rest the pot on the ground, then mound soil around it keeping the mound level with the pot for 3 feet diameter, then sloping down at a shallow angle for 2-3 feet farther out. This will give you a 4-10 ft diameter mound.

Understand that planting on a mound will mean the tree will need irrigation in dry times until it gets roots down.
Mulch will help and if continued will build soil fertility and structure and work against weeds. 
You might see other jackfruit trees in the area thriving but not on mounds. Probably they got lucky in their formative years. Newly planted trees are much more sensitive to flooding than established trees. I know of a whole grove of sugar apple 2 years in-ground which sat submerged for 2 weeks while newly planted sugar apples on the same ground all perished. Roots need air and newly planted trees simply cannot breathe or find air with their roots like established trees can. Trees in waterlogged soil suffocate.

The quotes above come from:
https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/MG/MG37000.pdf

Thank you, pineislander, for all the lessons :)  Yes, there is a ditch right behind my backyard and it always keeps water. You made me aware of this issue. Very valuable info for my future plantings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to my jackfruit tree?
« on: August 01, 2019, 11:32:23 AM »
Meanwhile, my mai3 started new growth, as per picture, but the brownish tips are also present.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to my jackfruit tree?
« on: August 01, 2019, 11:28:29 AM »
JoeP450, your jacks look gorgeous. Thanks for the hint with Areca. I have one of these monsters in my lot. I will use the fronds.
BTW, do you know if there are any Tony Morris seeds anywhere available? Probably the cultivar is too new.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to my jackfruit tree?
« on: August 01, 2019, 11:24:43 AM »
Sahai1, thanks for the reply. Actually, I did so. A few weeks ago I started germinating Mai 1 jackfruit. They are growing very well. I counted 16 seedlings altogether, so if any of you is in need of seedlings, I can share them for free. However, I do not guarantee they really are Mai1. I bought the jackfruit from Excalibur and they told me it was mai1. It was crunchy, delicious, yellow/dark yellow and with very little sap. It also had a very interesting structure inside, unlike the pictures most of you place on the forum.

Interesting thing: I found instructions online that I should germinate them in 3-gallon pots and put them 1 inch deep in soil. I did so with most of them, the rest I put in a regular Jiffy germination station. The latter sprouted immediately with a rate of 100%.  How do you germinate your jackfruits?

What do you think about how I should proceed with the seedlings? Better keep replanting them in bigger pots and then plant in the ground or stop at 3 gallons and then plant in the ground? The biggest pot I have is 15 gallon.

BTW, does anyone of you have mai 3 seeds? Or a seedling?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to my jackfruit tree?
« on: July 29, 2019, 12:01:04 AM »
the few I lost experienced wet feet for a a day or two and went into shock, new budding leaves kept coming up giving me hope, but eventually those grew very small with brownish tips and the tree just gave up.
This is exactly what is happening to my tree :( brownish tips. They are hardly visible on the picture because I could not take a sharper picture. Looks like a lost case...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What happened to my jackfruit tree?
« on: July 27, 2019, 06:46:46 PM »
I was watering it every day and the last week it was raining almost all the time (at least according to my weather app - I was not at home).
The same thing happened to mai1. I assume I should be buying 15 gal jacks because I cannot keep babies alive.
O maybe anyone can help?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What happened to my jackfruit tree?
« on: July 27, 2019, 06:27:56 PM »
Beginner questions again...

I bought this 3 gal mai 3 jackfruit from Excalibur about 2 months ago.
It looked really healthy, lots of leaves.
Now it looks like it is going to die like my previous mai 1 tree.
It started losing leaves probably 1-2 weeks after planting.
I was away this really rainy week and this is what I found after I arrived:





Is it fungus or mold?
Is there any chance for this tree? What should I do?
Jackfruit is my favourite tropical fruit and it looks like I am failing all the time growing it. :'(
Thank you for all advice!


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Following. I have the same issue with my Barbados cherry.

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Bamand, thanks for all the advice! I appreciate. Being a citrus novice (well, a novice to gardening too), I think I will give up citrus completely for now. I will wait for the cure.

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This is my Valencia Pride mango:



It is now about 10 feet tall. Unlike most of you, I want it to be big, it is supposed to be a front yard tree.
But I would like it to grow branches below the current canopy. Is it at all possible? The salesperson at Excalibur said it would grow branches below, but after 3 months I am getting impatient. Should I do some kind of procedure to make it grow branches?

This is my Excalibur mango:



This, on the other hand, I want to keep small. Now the tree is about 5 feet. It is in the backyard and close to electricity lines. But the same thing: it does not look like it is going to grow branches under the current canopy. Any advice?

Thanks!

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