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Yes, slow at first. Once they grow a few real leaves they will grow faster.

Luak, how are you doing the same thing to your trees like the article?
The article is about making more of the HLB bacteria for study.

Am I reading the wrong article?

Sweet. I like it. I grew it for a couple years.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 18, 2018, 09:18:21 PM »
Maybe say that cuttings are at least 8” or 12”.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Osmocote on sale (Amazon)
« on: September 18, 2018, 08:15:29 PM »
Yup. I have a camelx3 alert set up for the 8lb osmocote at $18. I always get the alert at $15

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Advise me citrus masters!
« on: September 13, 2018, 03:43:30 PM »
That's all leafminer damage. You could have applied pesticides early on during the new flush. The bugs are long gone from there once you see the damage. They're looking for new flush to lay their eggs. They can't penetrate mature leaves.

Try not to prune away the damaged leaves if your plants are not very big yet. It will slow down their growth if you prune off all the new growth.

Another way is to paint the lower part of trunk with lime, cheap and effective.
I thought that's for a different problem than what IV Organics' product claims to solve.

Or are you replying to me about my rodent chewing mulberry bark problem? They actually will climb up the tree to find young branches and chew them up.

It's similar to kaolin clay (Surround) or white paint for sunburn. Kaolin clay also offers some protection from insects although not via the natural oils route.
I'm curious how well the other ingredients work for their purpose too. I have rodents that like to eat just my mulberry young bark and shoots and no other trees. I wonder if it will repel whatever it is. According to the description, it does.

What's a mountain yam? scientific name?
I think it's a common name that could represent 1 or more species. Japanese call their long white yam yamaimo (yama=mountain, imo=yam). I'm not sure if other cultures use the same common name for their native yam as well.

fei zi siu is supposed to be good, sweet. I think it's the green spiky ones in Chinese supermarkets. The quality of these market fruits has declined in recent years.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Why won’t my miracle berry produce fruit?
« on: September 12, 2018, 01:53:23 AM »
You can try hand pollinating if the plant is not too big. I did that before my plant made over 100 flowers.
One year I had over 100 fruits. Now, I don't pollinate and I get a few dozen fruits for each flush of flowers.

Did you have a friend make the app? Is it React Native? It looks really simple to do in React Native and just have it build both ios and android packages.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 25, 2018, 01:11:09 PM »
It's really hard to crack the shell without breaking the seed inside. The shell is like 2mm thick and the seed is right up against it with no wiggle room.

I tried GA3 and the seeds started growing a taproot and then melted away. I might just plant some without any treatment and wait.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Toona sinensis
« on: June 21, 2018, 01:49:38 PM »
I think the young shoots in spring is what people eat. I got one plant from a friend but it's not done very well last year and died back to the ground during a freeze that also took out all the sweet potato leaves. It did survive and came back this year. Hopefully it will become established in the ground so I can try it later. It doesn't seem invasive to me yet.

I think they do mean cubic yard.

Thank you everyone for your help. I'm appreciative for the info and will have to consider my budget and possibly take city soil or start small organic planter box. The Whittier Fertilizer guy said to mix (organic mix 50/50 original soil) and 16/16/16 fertilizer has a starter.

I went to Whittier Fertilizer to check out cost:
"Organic Flower and Veg Mix" is $48 per cubic yard.
"Planter Mix" is $33 per cubic yard
"Planter Box Mix" also $33 per cubic yard.

16-16-16 Fertilizer $31.40

Costco "had" Miracle Grow organic potting mix back in March for $9.99 for 55 quart = 1.8 Cubic yard. hella of a deal, but they sold out. Don't think they will have anymore.
55 quart = 1.8 cubic feet
1 cubic yard = 27 cubic feet
You need 15 of those Costco bags to get a cubic yard, so $150.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 14, 2018, 04:21:35 PM »
You mean inarch with yangmei or native rootstock? I once approach grafted a native rootstock and the rootstock gave up its roots, thinking it can just take nutrients from the mother tree. It grew pretty well until I cut below the yangmei side of the graft.

I did cleft, whip and tongue, approach, side. I guess side graft is more successful for me. It's still not a good percentage though.

I keep saying it's hard to propagate, but that could be just me, or my rootstocks, or my one mother plant.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 14, 2018, 12:17:33 PM »
Mine all died too on M. cerifera. I think it just heals very slowly. The ones that take longer to push have better chances at survival. Maybe the grafts should be covered in foil to prevent them from pushing too soon.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:20:30 PM »
This year I let one rootstock root into the ground through the pot while upping the other 2 to 5gal before grafting. Interestingly, the one in the ground did not take any grafts. It did make a really strong sucker that pushed the main trunk almost flat to the soil line. The grafts were already failing before the sucker took over. I guess I should graft onto the sucker and see how that does. The other rootstocks took 1 or 2 out of about 5 grafts. I hope the heat doesn't kill the grafts. Some grafts that pushed out earlier wilted. Yangmei grafts will push early and then die. The ones that are slower tend to have better chances of healing.

If it has paper shreds and doritos wrappers in it, it's green bin mulch. People put regular trash in them and there's often dog and cat poop in there and it's very lightly or not composted. If it has coarser pieces but no trash, it's chipped stuff from places like Griffith Park. It tends to smell nice. If it's fine and black and doesn't smell much, it's well-composted compost from Griffith Park. If it's black but has large pieces, it's also compost but not as broken down and it smells pretty bad. All are useful and you don't know what will be there when you show up. I guess anything's better than showing up and nothing's there. I keep hoping to get the fine compost, since my city already delivers wood chips to me for free.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: growing Mr. Minh's atemoya in FL
« on: June 13, 2018, 11:23:38 AM »
I hope you didn't buy it from Mr. Minh. His prices are pretty high and based on the age of the tree, not the size. He wanted more for the stunted older plants than the vigorous younger ones.

Hope that helps, that's how I improve my soil here in AZ ... 112 DEGREES TODAY!!!!
That's really hot! It's been pretty hot over here lately (above 90), but it's going back to 70 this weekend. You get more rain than we do in California though.

Anyway, smartdriver, do put down seeds to grow something so you're not wasting that expensive water just wetting the soil for 6 months.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surniame Cherry from Jim Neitzel
« on: June 13, 2018, 10:54:40 AM »
That looks great! The nicest thing about eugenias is they can tolerate some shade. I just put my surinam cherry seedling in the front yard where it's shady all the time. It was flowering this year before planting. I hope it will do so next year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 13, 2018, 10:52:20 AM »
With the demand we have here, it boggles the mind that none of the people with the few successful germinations have tried air layering and selling seedlings. I would love to have a few to grow in Central Fl.
I thought I posted my airlayering results years ago. In short, 3 consecutive years of putting several airlayers at different times failed.

I think just lots and lots of compost is good. Maybe get bags of cheap cow manure from Home Depot or Lowes or similar places. Manure is basically compost, but digested by the cow rather than bacteria. This is going to help the most for soil. Other stuff like epsom salt you don't necessarily need, but people get obsessed and want to spend more money.

That city "compost" you got is actually mulch made from green bin materials. It takes some time to break down. They do have mulch at the place on Mission on Thursdays I think, but there are people with trucks that shovel it up pretty fast and sell it. If you go on Friday, a lot of times there's nothing left. The compost is good if you can get it.

Just mix the compost into the soil a little bit and plant in it. Cover with mulch to retain water longer. It does take some work to make the water absorb into it in the beginning. Grow fast-growing veggies and cover crops until you figure out what to do with the land. Better if they have deep roots and/or make a lot of roots. Dead roots add organic matter to the soil really well. Beans fix nitrogen and you can then bury the plants in the garden to add organic matter. I never had much success with compost bins in this dry climate. Burying and planting on top works for me.

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