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3 years.
Key limes fruit quickly from seed.... so I guess it got those quick fruiting characteristics from them.


If you decide to sell some I wouldn't mind one. :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What’s killing my indoor cacao?
« on: October 22, 2019, 04:43:35 AM »
I don't have any experiences with cacao.  But I did have similar issues with my mandarin that was in a pot so many years and  got root bounded sinceI never repotted it.   It was on the verge of dying with leave mostly yellow.  Then I decided to repot it and at the same time cut the bounded roots off ,and amazingly, it came back to live really fast and it has lushes of green leaves and larger plants as well.    So, I'm not sure if it was the soil or cutting of the bounded roots off that did the work.  That was about 1.5yrs ago.  I will need to do the same thing again next year.  This time, I will pot it into a 10gal nursery pots so that I can later on cut the bottom off and just let it grow into the soils.
I was under the impression that potted citrus won't produce fruit until the roots run out of space to grow.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nutmeg - Looking for sources
« on: October 22, 2019, 04:42:13 AM »
Try the buy/sell board.
Calling someone dimwitted when you ordered seeds from India , off Ebay, that failed is pretty funny.
The finger always points outward.

Trying the only means available of attaining something that is otherwise unobtainable after doing a lot of searching is the exact opposite of that.
Receiving a product that is painfully apparent it was packed wrong is what it is. If it had it would have easily arrived in an adequate time frame.

I have plants from various places that shouldn't be here let alone be alive and yet somehow they are, so a person must use whatever means are available when it presents itself it the desire is there.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Nutmeg - Looking for sources
« on: October 19, 2019, 10:09:30 PM »
Not specficially a fruit rather a spice, but it's a tropical plant and i'm very keen on getting my hands on a pair of them.

Any clues on a US source? I ordered some from a dimwitted grower from India through E-Bay that did not pack them correctly, so they dried out and died by the time they arrived on my door, most of the damange done was while stuck in customs/transit.

Doubtful on the rights, there are already variants of the finger lime with different colors growing in other parts of the world.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What’s killing my indoor cacao?
« on: October 19, 2019, 09:58:23 PM »
Looks like bug and fungus/bacterial issue. Suggest repotting them yearly if possible and some insecticidal soap or oils.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cocos nucifera Growing in Madeira...
« on: October 19, 2019, 09:56:09 PM »
There are cold hardy variants, a surprising number of palm tree variants out there but none of the cold hardy versions are capable of producing a coconut.

Unless someone figures out how to create a hybrid that is. :) There are very few cold hardy versions that I know of.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: rare grafted pistachios
« on: October 19, 2019, 09:50:24 PM »
Thanks for letting me know, gives me some hope. I've planted these on the protected side of the yard so the winter winds won't be as harsh there.

I do worry a bit as all the foliage has gone from them and I can't tell if it's going to come back or not. I planted these around july, they haven't recovered from the shock since then.
I grabbed these despite the expense because there had been no grower online at least offering them in the few years that i've been looking for unusual plants.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / rare grafted pistachios
« on: October 18, 2019, 06:26:34 AM »
I ordered some hybrid pistachio from a commercial grower when I saw them offered, no where in the US had I ever heard of anyone selling a tropical nut like the Pistachio that could survive down to zone 7.

I can't tell if they are dormant or dead, but the shipping stressed them out. I'm hoping it's like the cherry tree that I got from them last time and it's just pretending to be dead but will come back over time. The cherry didn't perk back up for a good 1.5 years.

The breeding pair is a Randy pistachio + Golden Hills pistachio.
Until I see signs of life I guess I can only ask around to see what others have experienced with this kind of plant.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Yellowing leaves
« on: October 18, 2019, 06:18:42 AM »
I have had limited flirtations with star fruit the corpse of the last one is now mulch in my yard. It's supposedly a tropical plant.

Yellowing leaves is often a lack of nutrients/nitrogen or overwatering, sometimes a combination.

I prefer to wait until the soil around my plant is dry down to 2 inches below the surface before watering. Overwatering combined with heat stress (when it happens) can kill even the toughest plant.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropic beauty peach blooming (So. Flo.)
« on: October 18, 2019, 06:14:26 AM »
Peach trees tend to be very hardy and shrug off winter effects. I have peach trees that are showing more life right now that it's cold and raining so hard I can't hear myself think versus earlier in the year when it was warm and optimally humid.

I have not had them bloom or fruit this late but I did have an apple tree that I transplanted late, bloom in december. It was an unusually warm period during december followed by a sharp drop in temps during the final following months of the winter season.

My peach/nectarine group is still maturing to the point where it can fruit.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: some pictures from Jim's place in Vancouver, WA
« on: October 15, 2019, 11:10:23 PM »
I spent lots of summers in Vancouver as a kid, so i'm semi-familiar with the area.

I've never heard of a Citsuma, are there any other types of citrus you've had luck with? I've tried growing mandarins that claimed to be cold hardy but they proved to be too delicate. The improved Meyer lemon was also too delicate, it responded quite negatively to cold (not freezing) and steady rainy conditions. I haven't had any impulse to try my luck with it again after that.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is the best variety of loquat?
« on: October 15, 2019, 10:57:32 PM »
I have a Japanese Loquat but it's too young to make fruit yet and also haven't enough experience in this area. All I know is I had to pick something that should be hardy down to zone 7-ish and I was told this was.

how did you cross those?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Ice Cream Beans in Containers?
« on: October 15, 2019, 07:44:27 PM »
I thought the biggest issue with vanilla is that even once you get a seed, you have to go through a process of drying/oxidizing to get the vanilla essence.  Anything that can't be used fresh isn't worth it to me.
Actually what you are describing is the preservation of it. Drying it, distilling it into alcohol etc, this is done because the bean is perishable (soft and squishy) and will rot if efforts to preserve it when freshly harvested do not occur. This preserves the vanilla essence.

This is according to my own reading, perhaps someone else has better info.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: October 15, 2019, 02:41:46 PM »
Hello I am a former military person with a diverse background. I live in an area with a very wide variance in climates, fossil records show it used to be tropical with palm trees but it's now mostly an off the beaten path ski-season area and hiking trails the rest of the year.

I bought my first house in 2015 and have been slowly transforming a grassy but otherwise barren yard into a chaotic but hopefully lush mini-orchard with a wide variety of plant life. I'm no landscaper so it's all being done by brail pretty much.

The outdoor area: Apple trees, Peach Trees, Pear trees, 1 Nectarine, Grape vines, lots of non grafted roses, a breeding pair of hybridized pistachio trees, plum trees, cherry trees.

Indoors: All spice plants, a few banana plants, Jasmine, 1 orchid, some mint plants.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Ice Cream Beans in Containers?
« on: October 15, 2019, 02:24:21 PM »
I flirted with vanilla bean orchids, they proved to be exceedingly fickle and my own ineptitude + environmental influences caused their early demise.

The orchid variety is only pollinated by a type of bee not found in most of the US, and if this is remotely similar you would have to hand pollinate each one in order for beans to set.

I am impressed that you've got them to a size like that, i've only spent brief amounts of time in AL passing through it, I figured some parts of the year it was likely too cold to sustain them (even in a green house).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spice plants
« on: October 15, 2019, 02:18:04 PM »
I've had several Allspice trees/shrubs outside here and never had any damage from frost/freezing.  They have certainly been hardy down to 26 degrees with adequate soil/air moisture.

Unfortunately I live near the Canadian boarder in a ski area, it's prone to severe cold snaps of 5-10 degrees and sometimes in the negatives with the average being in the 20's. I tried growing some types of citrus that claimed to tolerate down to the 20's or high 10's. They died when temps sustained 30 F and below for a prolonged period with a all time seasonal low of 16.

The conditions during the warm months are almost tropical with typical seasonal highs of 80 plus in the day and sometimes 60+ at night with rainy trends. The warm months are too short to attempt bananas outdoors, I just rescued my outdoor blue java banana plant that was really happy out there with a big rootball, some early frost that dropped the night time temps down to 28 had ruined all the growth it had achieved starting in late spring. It's base is almost too large to repot.

I tried starfruit too, despite being grown indoors the indoor temp and my ineptitude proved too stressful for it, so it died a few months after I got it.

I have a carnivorous plant starter pot on a whim, and also because of the issue of these pots attracting flying pests. It's a cape sundew.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Spice plants
« on: October 15, 2019, 07:41:18 AM »
Presently I am growing 2 All spice trees and 1 cinnamon tree (indoors of course).
I'm new to tropical plants and new to this board.

Too early to tell if i'll be successful but the All spice has been in my care for 3 months, hasn't died yet.

The ceylon tree is very young, maybe 6 inches tall and quite frail. The all spice are quite well developed, at nearly 30 inches tall.

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