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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Crystal Guava When to pick?
« on: March 20, 2019, 10:40:43 PM »
Excellent. Thank you for your help. I think guava can fruit most of the year here in Florida. Pruning stimulates flowering as well. There are a couple small fruits and the rest of the tree is covered with flowers right now.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ilama on Atemoya rootstock
« on: March 20, 2019, 01:07:59 PM »
Hi mikesid,

Are these Ilama still alive? How does the graft union look? Any updates would be very helpful. Thanks!

Here's an update.. a total of 7 ilama grafts took…3 failed…I seem to have more success with veneer grafts. 4 Genova Red and 3 Pajapita in total.

This one below I did one scion wrapped in buddy tape and the other unwrapped…they both took just fine...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Crystal Guava When to pick?
« on: March 20, 2019, 01:02:05 PM »
The Crystal Seedless scions I got from xshen are starting to fruit. Most of the pictures I can find show somewhat small fruit. I feel like this needs to get a little larger. When is the optimal time to pick? Thanks.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Weeds in nursery pots
« on: March 20, 2019, 12:45:26 PM »
Just be happy you aren't using rootmaker pots. Then you have weeds growing out of the side holes as well as the top. I have had weeds choke out a bunch of stuff. I try to pull as much as I can. I am hoping that once everything is cleaned up and weeded here it won't be a major event to keep up with potted stuff on top of nursery benches. Fresh clean potting mix should help as well. I have even used synthetic fiber rootcaps but I was too impressed. 

I mulch 15 gal and larger with pine straw.

It probably depends on what you are growing as well. A really tough plant may do ok with weeds.

Bush2Beach is the best. I have done several different transactions. Thank you so much. The Ashitaba looks great.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Wax Jambu scions
« on: March 15, 2019, 06:16:48 AM »
Excellent seller. Great packaging and the scions were nice and fresh. Thank you.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: March 13, 2019, 09:24:02 PM »

Nice collection.  I notice you got the blurple grow lamp in the background.

I was trying to get a head start on papayas to sell at a tree sale in May. It is just a cheapy Amazon cob. I had too much stuff and the light too high up for the small output.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sweet plum mango
« on: March 13, 2019, 03:09:38 PM »
I am pretty sure these are Maprang Bouea macrophylla. There should be plenty of info out there.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: March 13, 2019, 01:22:26 PM »
Day grafted Jan. 8th

Day today

Whitsell, Don Gillogy, Day, Popenoe, Mexicola Grande, Monroe, Gwen, Choquette and a seedling that is reported to be excellent. Hopefully I will get some fruit to taste test this year.

How does Big Jim taste in California? My friend has a mature tree that we may end up topworking due to mild flavor. We even thinned the crop. I have to follow up on the story but I am starting to wonder if this is a seedling of Big Jim that someone in Florida decided to graft and keep the same name. The quality just isn't there for the past two years.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Duguetia Uniflora
« on: March 12, 2019, 05:59:33 PM »
Hi Saltman don't be Sorry it is what it is/or it will be what it is!!! That's  the reason why I decided to post the Pic. I had  Rollinia Deliciosa from Berto, and leaves on this tree looked different extremely darker Green and longer than the Rollinias.  If you have any Pics. please post them. I also tried to graft it to Rollinia and the graft dint take, it took to the A. Reticulata but it is Elephant Footing. I'm starting to think it could be some type of an Amazon forest Rollinia.
Heres the only Pic. I found of Duguetia


Hi Carlos,
Rollinia is extremely variable. I have a multigrafted one and one type has leaves about 3 times larger on the same tree. Some have small flowers and some are very large. I have noticed highly variable flower sizes and shapes on atemoya as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Duguetia Uniflora
« on: March 11, 2019, 03:38:04 PM »
Gorgeous! I hope you graft some more up sooner than later. I would definitely be interested in scions next year if it puts on some decent growth. I have an Annona spraguei that should be flowering soon that I need to find a good rootstock for. It failed on Pond Apple and Mountain Soursop but I am going to try those again as well as some others. That Duguetia looks like it may work with Rollinia. How long ago did you graft it? It looks like the union is starting to elephant foot.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Duguetia Uniflora
« on: March 11, 2019, 01:38:27 PM »
Hi Shot, yes they are very rare, I was able to sprout one seed from a 18 seeds, then I grafted a piece of it into a Annona Reticulata and it took ,then the original Tree died and all I got left is the grafted tree, holding Flowers now.
I'm curious if anyone here at TFF is growing one, I could use some advice.
Thank u

Amazing! How big is the tree? Finding the right rootstock is the key to a lot of this stuff. Any updates along the way would be appreciated.

You can hard prune guava whenever. The commercial green guava in Florida is kept around 5 feet and each fruit is bagged. Dr. Jonathan Crane mentioned that you can prune your tree in quadrants and get fruit nearly year round. You can cut back each branch at the 3rd to 5th bud and make a bush out of it. You can do pretty much whatever you want to it as long as the roots are happy.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Choice for White Sapote Cultivar
« on: March 04, 2019, 08:14:38 PM »
I have the Bob Chambers varieties Harvey has and helped collect from Bob.
Which one’s are you still looking for?

Excellent! I'll shoot you a message.

Not sure what I am going to grow this on but it seems happy. The more fatty nut crops the better.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Choice for White Sapote Cultivar
« on: March 04, 2019, 10:04:54 AM »
There are, scattered around, a large number of white sapote selections from Bob Chamber's collection in Rainbow CA.  He collected preferred selections over many years planted on his large acreage.  He allowed some folks to collect scionwood from his mature trees and these have been passed around for a few years.  It is difficult to determine what is best with regard to flavor, texture, seed sizes, skin thickness, etc.  Then again, climatic factors and time of ripening need to be factored in.  In no way could I compare a peach grown here with one from the Central Valley, ours are terrible in comparison.  We have white sapote trees in CA planted during during the mission era.  Perhaps good fruit then, but compared to new selections they are not great.  Bet you didn't know there was a white sapote website or URL!

I contacted Harvey C about buying scions a while back and he wasn't interested at that time. I did buy some really nice dragon fruit cuttings from him on ebay though.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona pruning concepts
« on: March 03, 2019, 10:41:25 PM »
You could try something like this and then you can keep your grafts as well. You can regraft next year from them on new branches if you want them lower or closer to the trunk.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona pruning concepts
« on: March 03, 2019, 09:12:01 PM »
I need some advice on where would be a good location to prune the Fino de Jete. I was going to prune it at the mark but since it's raining I will have to wait till next weekend. I bought it in 15 gallon with fruits last october and planted the same month. I grafted it last week but I am willing to lose the grafts to shape the tree. Thanks in advance.

That can work. It is hard to tell how tall it is from the picture. How close is it to the wall? You can kind of espalier it.

Kampong Mauve stripped. I always forget is fruit on annona from new growth or last years branches?

Flowers from new growth. Many times the bigger and better fruit fruiting wood will come out of some nice fat scaffolding branches.

LOVE IT! I see a Breadfruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona pruning concepts
« on: March 02, 2019, 10:37:11 AM »
So if my sugar apple has just a hair of new growth is it too late to take off the leaves? Have a custard apple that could probably use a good stripping. they both browned their leaves a bit over the winter but didn't really drop that many.

I would go for it. Prune it how you like and strip all the leaves off. Fertilize, mulch and water.

Trees I stripped a few weeks back are starting to push and flower.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona pruning concepts
« on: March 02, 2019, 10:35:52 AM »
Thanks Josh,
I haven't potted these up in several years, and I have never root pruned because I haven't tried getting them out of their current pots...  They seem very happy though, so maybe I just won't mess with repotting now. They have just been growing along, minding their own business, getting bushier and bushier.
One problem is that my soursop doesn't start to branch until five feet up (I guess I should have topped it when it was young...), so the top branches don't get very tall before they hit the ceiling.  I have been tempted to whack it off at about 2 feet and see if I can get it to branch lower down, but I am afraid of killing it.

My greenhouse is a steady zone 12. Because I have some really touchy tropicals out there, it never gets below 50. The entire thing is in sun in the winter, and light shade in the summer.
Would they be happier in the orangerie? I let that drop to 40 in the winter, which keeps my citrus feeling good.

Anyway, any suggestions would help.  Thanks!


No need to strip the soursop. Those are evergreen. They only drop their leaves here as a stress response. I haven't worked with them much as far a fruiting so it may be beneficial to strip certain branches during growing season to force flowering but I haven't tried yet. I believe Rollinia is the same but not certain.

Reticulata, squamosa, Atemoya and macropropyllata are able to be completely stripped of foliage.

Repotting would be a good thing but root pruning or messing with the roots may be risky. I don't have much first hand experience but Annonas are known for sensitive roots.

I wouldn't be afraid to prune soursop at all. It is a tough tree outside of cold winds.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona pruning concepts
« on: February 28, 2019, 08:45:07 PM »
So my annonas are in huge pots in my greenhouse, and I am constantly dealing with them hitting the ceiling.  They have a million skinny branches.  I have been pruning them, but nothing as drastic as this.  Is now a good time?  They normally lose some leaves in winter when the days are shorter.
And what is the purpose of stripping the leaves off? So I strip them all off, or just most?
This makes me feel much braver about working with them!
If I want to repot them, should I do that at the same time, or will the stress be too much?  Just wanted to pot them up one size and refresh the soil.


If you want to wait until you start to see the first bid of budding that may be good. You are in such a marginal climate that I don't know how they react. Annonas don't like their roots messed with but I don't have any experience growing them in traditional pots. I only use root pruning pots. I know a guy that had his large seedling inground soursops blown down in a hurricane and he just cut them off at the blown over trunk s they can grow up from that instead of trying to right them. Do you root prune between potting? How have they responded if you have?

I wouldn't worry about hard pruning as long as they are happy. You can prune part and hard prune later as well. I cut one of my trees waaaayyyyy back just before hurricane Irma in September and it bounced back just fine and even set some late season fruit.

If the trees are happy you can hard prune and strip all of the leaves just before they break dormancy. 

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Dream scions Sold Out.
« on: February 26, 2019, 07:55:34 PM »
I like it shorter and wider so I have access to the flowers and fruit.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Dream scions Sold Out.
« on: February 26, 2019, 10:29:20 AM »
All gone. Thanks guys.

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