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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making my cherimoya flower!
« on: May 19, 2019, 06:11:21 PM »
I have 2 El Bumpo sizing up on my tree here in Florida. I have a few other cherimoya varieties that I am pruning and hoping to push flowers. My Selma grafts didn't take so I can't comment on that. Seems like it is cultivar dependent and not species wide. Time will tell if I can get some more varieties to set or if I event get the El Bumpo to maturity. We had a very mild winter here this year. I have an out of zone breadfruit in ground with just minor burning and dieback.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making my cherimoya flower!
« on: May 18, 2019, 10:45:47 AM »
Hi Jeff,
I hope you are doing good my friend. I would try pruning it back. Tip the ends and strip the leaves off. You don't have to do the entire tree. The usually induces flowering and you can control and spread out your crop by using hand pollination. If the leaves are really stuck on a you are doing damage to the tree you can just cut at the petioles and they will fall off shortly.

BTW, I have my first fruit set on my Rollinia tree that came from your seed of that 7.5 lb monster a while back.

Just a reminder. The massive tree sale is tomorrow. Indoors at the convention center.

Thanks for the kind reviews. Ripe fruit are in a lull right now. The tree has a bunch of green fruit set and flowers on it now. I'll update if I get another wave of seed available. Good luck guys.

A little tip. I grafted on a couple branches from my friends tree and I think the cross pollination really helped boost the fruit set. If you have room, plant two or three trees next to each other or just graft on different branches on the same tree from these seedlings.

My lecture tonight:  "Making Annona Hybrids", will be at the Mounts Auditorium, 7:30 PM meeting of the Palm Beach Chapter of the Rare Fruit Council, with lots of beautiful slides.

The frustrating part is that almost all of the hybrids pictured, no longer exist!

See the info in the old thread that I just bumped up: "hungry for more info...on Annona hybrids."

Holy crap Har. Hopefully we can get you to do this talk at the Manatee club. I don't book the speakers anymore but let me know if you are interested. I'll pass it on. I'm not on Facebook anymore but still have the messenger app. - Josh Starry in Sarasota.

31st annual MRFC tree sale. Over 20 vendors inside the convention center. I'll be there but I will mostly be selling dragonfruit and whatever odds and ends I can dig out. I am pretty sure Adam (Flying Fox) will be there as usual. Lots of other great vendors. Come on out!

I bring 2 gallons of water with me and sometimes a 64oz smoothie with me in the summer for workdays. Long sleeve white spf shirt, sun hat with the neck mullet cloth on it and some lightweight Columbia or athletic shorts. Sometimes I wont piss all day. It can be brutal at times but I sure love watching how fast everything grows.

would love to get some seedling or better yet the tree,
about how long to fruit from seed?

Not sure. I got my tree from a friend. I am guessing around 4 or 5 years. They are somewhat slow growing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JF Annona grafting in Florida
« on: April 29, 2019, 11:09:08 AM »
Hey guys,
They are different fruits. I should have some of each this year. Hopefully somewhat ripe around the same time.

Here is the story on the Dream origin I posted a while back. I am good friends with Wayne and a few other long time members in the clubs over here.

The one or two Arka fruit I had were very good. Most home grown Annona are though.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JF Annona grafting in Florida
« on: April 27, 2019, 03:57:38 PM »
Did you get to try la habra sun or birula?
I got three spots to plant, already have calostra and dream. What do you suggest?

Pink's Mammoth is pretty good. Do you have a rollinia? Gefner is a great fruit but super common. All of the cultivars seem to do fine here. Giant Yucatan squamosa had soft melting flesh that tasted like cake frosting to me.

I wish I could be more of a help. Hopefully I'll get a better feel for stuff as I get more trees into my messy yard. I have my first Ilama and Rollinia fruits growing now as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JF Annona grafting in Florida
« on: April 27, 2019, 03:37:32 PM »
I have had quite a few La Habra Suns. They have more of a sugar apple component to them. I haven't fruited Birula yet. I think I still have it on one of my trees.

I think almost any atemoya will do well in South Florida. There can be issues with seed borers but I haven't had any here. They like food, water, mulch, pruning, hand pollenating....

I even have a couple little El Bumpo cherimoya that set. I wouldn't be surprised if you could fruit Cherimoya all over the place with proper care. Time will tell. I have some other Cherimoya culitvars here as well.

El Bumpo fruitlet

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit fruiting question
« on: April 26, 2019, 02:20:43 PM »
Dr Richard campbell told me when hybridizing jaks he baged some female flowers and never pollinated them and they still grew.

I wonder if he checked them for carpels. You often see the other Artocarpus species with nothing inside when you rip them open.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JF Annona grafting in Florida
« on: April 26, 2019, 12:27:05 PM »

After nearly another year under your belt, I'm interested in hearing an updated report.
What is your top 5 considering the different climate here

They are all pretty good honestly. The Colostro seems to grow well and size up but there are some hard spots around the seeds which isn't ideal. I think the Pink's Mammoth tastes better than the Jumbo African Pride and African Pride.

I don't have a good read on the trees outside of the fruit because my trees are so heavily pruned and multigrafted. I also hand pollinate with so much different pollen.

Dream is still one of the best tasting fruits I have had. The Arka Sahan was also excellent. It is hard to beat a properly ripened Annona off of a happy well fed tree no matter what cultivar.

I always like to joke around that Gefner is the best anyway since it is so easily acquired.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bush Tucker Man-Les Hiddins
« on: April 21, 2019, 10:57:55 AM »
So good. Thanks for sharing. That canoe was very impressive.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Double Graft on Canistel?
« on: April 21, 2019, 09:48:42 AM »
Or an interstock for whatever reason.
I have a pond apple on which I grafted a cherimoya on which I then grafted an atemoya.
It was the outcome of a failed attempt to graft on atemoya onto pond apple.
I don't know enough about Canistel to speculate on why you might need an interstock.

Very cool. How is the compatibility with that? When did you graft?

Someone emailed me these pictures. They said it was only on the trunk and branches. Any ideas?

A 3-gallon avocado, that still looks very young and fresh and green-stemmed, will usually outgrow a 15-gallon, big, yellowish-woody-looking knarly tree.

Yep, I'm in the same camp.  You give me a 1 or 3 gallon potted tree and if planted the same time as my neighbor's tree that came out of a 30-50 gallon (and 20X the price), I'll have outgrown my neighbor in 3 years.  Smaller trees establish quicker.  The big pot and the big tree is more of sex appeal thang.

I need to get an updated pic of my Reed that just started blooming.  It's 12', 3 trunks and flat ass gorgeous.  Was a frozen stump March 2018. Now there's another tree that loves the heat for you Florida folks.

7 months later, October 2018, 10' tall.

My secret?  Osmocote, rainwater and a bottomless Rootbuilder bed.

Pinkerton is another excellent tree that is very slow growing.

This is truth.

Some species seem to grow out of being rootbound ok but some are permanently stunted. The best thing anyone can do is learn to graft and make your own trees of whatever you want. I use Rootmaker pots for everything and have also started field grafting recently. I built a large fertile mound with heavy mulch and direct sowed the seed with a cinder block around it to protect it from critters. The Day avocado scion is pushing now and I am really excited to track the progress on it. Avocado is very easy to graft in the winter here in Florida.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Crystal Guava When to pick?
« on: March 20, 2019, 10:40:43 PM »
Excellent. Thank you for your help. I think guava can fruit most of the year here in Florida. Pruning stimulates flowering as well. There are a couple small fruits and the rest of the tree is covered with flowers right now.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ilama on Atemoya rootstock
« on: March 20, 2019, 01:07:59 PM »
Hi mikesid,

Are these Ilama still alive? How does the graft union look? Any updates would be very helpful. Thanks!

Here's an update.. a total of 7 ilama grafts took…3 failed…I seem to have more success with veneer grafts. 4 Genova Red and 3 Pajapita in total.

This one below I did one scion wrapped in buddy tape and the other unwrapped…they both took just fine...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Crystal Guava When to pick?
« on: March 20, 2019, 01:02:05 PM »
The Crystal Seedless scions I got from xshen are starting to fruit. Most of the pictures I can find show somewhat small fruit. I feel like this needs to get a little larger. When is the optimal time to pick? Thanks.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Weeds in nursery pots
« on: March 20, 2019, 12:45:26 PM »
Just be happy you aren't using rootmaker pots. Then you have weeds growing out of the side holes as well as the top. I have had weeds choke out a bunch of stuff. I try to pull as much as I can. I am hoping that once everything is cleaned up and weeded here it won't be a major event to keep up with potted stuff on top of nursery benches. Fresh clean potting mix should help as well. I have even used synthetic fiber rootcaps but I was too impressed. 

I mulch 15 gal and larger with pine straw.

It probably depends on what you are growing as well. A really tough plant may do ok with weeds.

Bush2Beach is the best. I have done several different transactions. Thank you so much. The Ashitaba looks great.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Wax Jambu scions
« on: March 15, 2019, 06:16:48 AM »
Excellent seller. Great packaging and the scions were nice and fresh. Thank you.

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