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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with Biew Kiew longan - Pest ID?
« on: August 29, 2020, 11:13:30 PM »
Bumping...hoping for a response!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit - Golden Nugget vs Borneo Red
« on: August 29, 2020, 11:06:14 PM »
  Another good choice is a grafted Berry Seedling (will probably be hard to find).

Rob - Why a grafted Berry? Do the seeds not come true?

Here is TM Red aka Timor aka Tony Morris Red.

I bought a Bangkok Lemon and a Timor Red from Excalibur a few months ago. BL growing well. TM is not doing much. Do you know if it is a slow grower?   (I asked for you when I went to Excalibur, hoping to pick your brain for as much info as possible but they said you no longer worked there)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit - Golden Nugget vs Borneo Red
« on: August 29, 2020, 10:57:47 PM »
Have to admit I like Berry and its a tribute to Ron Berry. Just don't have it with Amber.

Why? Is the Berry not as good or is there some other issue?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help with Annonas.
« on: August 14, 2020, 12:05:41 PM »
Acheta - I used a 8-9 month Osmocote during the last week of May. I figured that would take care of the trees through end of September. Do you fertilize annonas in October?  I don't know if I should considering they will soon be going dormant.

Har -  I will add gypsum.
Also, thanks for your help in picking mango trees at Truly Tropical as well as all the advice you gave. The trees are growing well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help with Biew Kiew longan - Pest ID?
« on: August 13, 2020, 06:36:22 PM »
I bought this tree a year ago. Honestly, I did not want to. It was a miserable looking tree (it actually looks "better" in this picture than it does in person) but I had gone to someone's house to get it and did not know how to say no.
The picture below is exactly how the tree looked when I got it except it had 2 more leaves on it. It has not put out even one new leaf in one whole year. I gave up on it a couple of months ago and relegated it to the dig out and discard list.

As a comparison, here is a Sri Chompoo now that I bought the same day from a nursery also as a 3 gal and planted at the same time.

I went to dig out the tree yesterday and saw signs of new growth! I can't believe it just sat there for a year and did nothing. Anyway, long story short, I would like to save the tree if it is going to grow but the few leaves that are on there are covered with small white bugs. I know it's not mealy bugs. Anyone know what they are and what I should use to get rid of them?

New growth

Tiny white bugs.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Harmonizing your trees
« on: August 13, 2020, 06:23:39 PM »
Are those squirrels >:(
Even worse, 5 day old wild bunnies ;D   I think they are Eastern Cottontails.

K-Rimes - I do that too.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Harmonizing your trees
« on: August 13, 2020, 05:35:45 PM »
Filptop, I can't imagine how much this picture will enrage you ;-)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help with Annonas.
« on: August 13, 2020, 05:17:56 PM »
I use a combination of fertilizers. CitrusTone or HollyTone (short term) and Osmocote or CitrusGain (long term). I have not fertilized the trees since the end of May because the county has a fertilizer ban in place from June 1 - Sept 30.

I received the seeds today. Thank-you!
Will donate to Wikipedia as requested. Thanks again.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help on Annonas.
« on: August 10, 2020, 12:02:38 PM »
I mixed plenty of compost into the soil when I planted the trees. I fertilize and use seaweed foliar spray. I mulch heavily but I removed the mulch from these two trees because I was going to move them to the same side of the house as my other annonas that are doing much better. Then I thought of getting some feedback here before I did that.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Need help with Annonas.
« on: August 08, 2020, 04:04:20 PM »
I bought the Phet Pak Chong and Geffner last year and planted them in the ground in September/October.  They seemed to be doing okay but did not come back very well this year. I did not prune any of the branches in the hopes that they were just off to a slow start but it is already August and they barely have any leaves. You can see the branch 'skeletons' from last year. What can I do to help them along? These are planted on the west side of the house and get sun from around 11am to sunset. Too hot, maybe?

Phet Pak Chong

Phet Pak Chong (different angle)


I got this Annona from someone. Not sure what kind it is. It had branches on what would be the left side of the photo. Unfortunately, someone from a tree trimming crew who was working in my back yard was dragging a huge branch to the front yard and got it ensnared with this plant and broke all the branches on that side of the tree. This tree is planted on the east side of my house and only gets morning and early afternoon sun. Need pruning advice so I can get it to branch again.

Mystery annona

Have some sugar apple seeds I want to plant, does anyone know if the 'Big Red' variety comes true from seed. Or is this one, I am better of getting as a grafted tree?

I would follow Bsbullie's advice and double check with the county on whether you need to pick from an approved list of native trees.
I am in Pinellas county and went through this process a couple of years ago. When we signed our contract with the builder, we were given the impression that the lot was part of unincorporated Pinellas county. We had no reason to question it because our neighbors on either side were part of unincorporated Pinellas. What the builder did not tell us was that he had allowed the city to annex our lot.  The tree issue became an absolute nightmare.

There were 35 or more native trees on the 3/4 acre lot. Some needed to be cut for the home construction. The City moved the location of the house on the lot when the plan was submitted because they wanted to save some of the trees at the front of the lot. I tried to argue with them because those trees looked to be in pretty bad shape to my admittedly untrained eyes. According to city code, we are only required to have 6 native trees on our size lot. But, long story short, we ended up with about 27 native trees, still had to plant 3 additional native trees plus pay $4000 in fines for the trees that were cut.

The "best" part, earlier this year I had a couple of arborists stop by because I wanted quotes for some tree trimming. Both of them told me that the trees in front (which I had argued to be removed) were in such bad shape that they needed to be removed. I was livid when I heard that. Not only was I right all along that the trees were sick but my house is further back on the lot than I wanted and it will it cost me a few thousand dollars to have these trees removed.

Good Luck!!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Will my Hasya Sapodilla tree survive?
« on: August 03, 2020, 10:13:30 PM »
I could have sworn I had posted a reply to all of you months ago but I don't see it anymore.
Anyway, a couple of weeks after I had posted my original post, we had a particularly windy day and the tree snapped in half below the damaged area shown in the earlier picture. It was literally attached by just a tiny bit of bark. I was going to dig it up and throw it away but decided to experiment with it instead. I superglued the two halves together and then taped it up. I also used a stake almost like a splint to give it some more support. I then basically just ignored it thinking it was going to die anyway.

On a trip to Miami in early March, I picked up a Hasya at PIN. Then headed to Lara Farms to pick up a Makok and saw a really nice Hasya there, so bought that one, too.
Well, by mid -March my superglued Hasya was sending out new leaves and soon after that it started flowering. It has been flowering ever since. No fruit set because this tree is tiny but lots and lots of flowers. I have no idea how this thing is alive, let alone thriving!

Mangokothiyan - I wanted two sapodilla cultivars and after reading through the forum, Alano and Hasya seemed to be the most popular. On a trip to PIN, I got a chance to taste a Hasya and I was sold. They did not have any sapodilla trees for sale at the time, so I bought it from Mike Bender.
Out of curiosity, is kothiyan a malayalam word?

Tommyng, JoeP450 - Thank-you.

Acheta - You were right about the wind, I should have taken your advice and taped the tree to a stake in a few places. Instead, I waited till it broke in half before I did that! 
You can just barely see the graft all the way at the bottom of picture 2.

Brian - All I know about the various cultivars is what I have read on this forum. But, I have yet to taste a variety that I don't like. I usually don't like extremely sweet fruits but I make an exception for sapodillas.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: They're here!
« on: August 03, 2020, 09:28:16 PM »
What variety is it?

I would love some berry jackfruit seeds. Thanks.
PM sent.  Zip 34695

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: New Nursery in Tampa
« on: July 23, 2020, 11:30:27 AM »
This is wonderful! Like Epicatt2, I too have been planting fruit trees and other edibles but still have some gaps to fill in my yard. Almost all of my plants have come from trips to nurseries from Palm Beach to Homestead. Looking forward to having a nursery that is local.

Currently looking for a 3 gal Cac/Coc mango. Let me know if you have one in stock. Thanks.

Need a place that ship or is in the Tampa area

Okay, ignore my previous comment. I totally missed this bit.

I am in the Tampa bay area and got most of my mango trees from Squam (Alex - Tropical Fruit Acres in West Palm Beach) and Truly Tropical in Delray Beach. I first bought trees from Alex when I stopped by his place a couple of summers ago to buy fruit and I got another tree from him a couple of weeks ago. This time, I placed an order online and he had it ready for pick up the next day. Great customer service and I have always been more than satisfied with the trees I got from him.

Har helped me pick the trees I got from Truly Tropical (I bought six from there about a year and a half ago). Very happy with the trees I got there, too.

I have bought a couple of mango trees from Excalibur. While, they did not look nearly as good (they were pretty rootbound) as the ones from Alex and Chris/Har, after a hard pruning, they have recovered and seem to be doing well.

Another place to try is Lara Farms.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Will my Hasya Sapodilla tree survive?
« on: January 22, 2020, 03:32:16 PM »
I bought this Hasya sapodilla in February last year and planted it in the ground in September. About a month back, I noticed the bark on one section was missing. It is about a foot away from the graft.  Don't know how or when it happened. Is this tree going to survive?

I also have a Nules Clementine with a similar issue, except the bark has peeled almost all around the trunk (looks much worse than this) but it has a bunch of new leaves coming in.

It's been a while since this topic was last discussed. Has anyone else had their Excalibur Red jackfruit tree produce any fruit? Any with dark orange/red fruit?

kar1ma - Your Cristela jackfruit tree looks great. I like the fact that it is precocious and can be kept small. I will consider getting one especially, if it is a crunchy variety. I already have 3 logan varieties, if any of them don't work out, I will try the Diamond River.

Acheta -
I like everything to be in lines and even ( it's probably not healthy)

LOL! You and I have the same "disease"!
I have a Kohala longan too but I am going to plant that in the backyard, as I plan to let it get a little larger than the trees in the front yard.  I will try to remember to take pics to keep track of progress/changes.

Acheta - Just to clarify, do you mean 7.5' from the front (south) fence and also 7.5' from the west. Then 15' between trees? How many feet between each row of trees? 15'?  Would it be better to stagger the rows?
I have considered the fact that people might steal fruit close to the fence but I have about 5 feet of land (part of my lot) between my fence and the side walk. I am planning on planting a hedge along the fence on the outside. Maybe some bougainvillea/natal plum ;-)!

Seanny - I was not sure if pruning bigger roots would end up killing the tree. Good to know that it is okay to do.

Kar1ma - Where did you get the Diamond River longan and the Cristela jackfruit?  I have read on this forum that there is some confusion with regards to the color of Excalibur Red. It will be a few years before I get any fruit so I won't know till then.
Any reason that fish fertilizer is not good for mango trees? I was planning on using a seaweed foliar spray on the trees, is that also a no-no?

Pineislander - Thanks. I will use a mix of top soil and compost instead of just sand for the mound. A neighbor has 2 really nice healthy mango trees and she told me to only use sand, so I thought I would ask on here to get more opinions. I would love to have a couple of avocado trees but I already have too many trees and not enough land.  Have 5 varieties of bananas, a bunch of sugar apples and atemoyas, sapodillas, guavas, star fruit, citrus, loquat, etc. in pots that have to go in the ground.  I will keep the avocados in mind as replacements for any of my trees that don't make it.

I am trying to figure out which/how many trees to plant in the front right corner of my lot. The front faces south and the right side faces west.  It is a 60' by 60' area from the south (front) fence to the edge of oak tree canopy and the driveway to the west side fence. The picture was taken facing west.

These are the trees I would like to put in this location.

Jackfruit - Excalibur Red,  Amber

Mango - Pickering, Carrie, Coconut Cream, Mahachanok, Edward, Mallika, Orange Sherbet. I plan on getting a Cac, so would like to keep a spot open for it.

Lychee - Sweetheart, Mauritius, Brewster.

Longan - Biew Kiew, Sri Chompoo.

1)  I know I cannot fit all of the trees in that small area but would like to fit as many as I can ( I plan to keep the trees small) and need help figuring out spacing and which ones to plant towards the front and which towards the back.

2)  I would also like to plant these trees on a mound. Should I use just plain sand or can I amend it with top soil and compost.

3)  Most of the mangoes were bought mid-July'18 as my house was supposed to be ready by the end of that month. Some major issues cropped up and I only moved in recently. So, these trees are still in their original 3 gallon pots. They still look healthy but I have no idea how root bound/messed up the roots are by now. Is there anything I should do before/after? I put them in the ground to ensure survival/success?

Any and all help/suggestions are appreciated. TIA.

Well, that's a bummer! I bought an Excalibur Red earlier this year based on the pictures and descriptions of it being a superior variety, on this forum.
For those of you who have tasted it, how would you rate it? I would be ok with the color not matching the description as long as the flavor was good.

How do you tell when a LZ is ready/ripe?

I stopped by Zill's on Friday and bought a bunch of OS. They were down to about 5 LZ and 5 PPK in the bins. The fruit did not look all that great but I had not tasted these 2 varieties before and I have read so much about them here that I bought a couple each of both varieties.
I have eaten a few of the OS so far and I really like them. The PPK were okay, nothing to write home about. My husband was not a big fan. Then I snagged a PPK at Truly Tropical on Saturday and it was fantastic. Husband said he loved it and was very surprised when I told him that it was the same variety he had turned his nose up at the previous day.

As for the LZ, I don't know what was going on with the fruit I bought but they were pretty disgusting. The only way to describe it was puke flavored. I have had some not so great mangoes before but have never felt like throwing up after the first bite! The fruit looked perfectly fine on the inside. They did not look overripe or like they were damaged in any way. I was so disappointed because I was really looking forward to tasting something special.

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