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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rambutan seed drink
« on: November 02, 2018, 10:05:43 PM »
Yes, Sunny, it does indeed appear that rambutan seed could be a very nutritious food with some possible medical benefits.

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1757-899X/306/1/012089/pdf

However, it looks like the seeds should be treated beforehand to remove bitterness and astringency, but reading that paper that looks pretty simple also.

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It has that dark green color of faln (ฟ้าลั่น) mango, the size is about right but the shape of that one is a bit more bulbous. Faln mango is sold in the market here in Cairns always as a green eating mango. Shape-wise it does seem closer to brahm kai meu/phraamkhăimia (พราหมณ์ขายเมีย).

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The more sun, the more coffee will produce. The more they produce, the more water and nutrients they need. If coffee doesn't get the desired nutrients (water or fertilizer) then they will start to die back. Once coffee trees set fruit they are very reluctant to drop their babies when under stress.
When planted in shade, they set much less fruit but are much more likely to survive without assistance.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sauropus androgynus - Sweet Leaf
« on: April 17, 2018, 07:09:21 AM »
What is the difference between the มะกอกป่า and มะกอกส้มตำ. I have one in my front yard but it hasn't produced any fruit yet though the leaves are nice to eat. They do grow fast and I have already had to stump it after only 2 years. The branch which I cut off and threw on the ground also started to shoot very quickly. I might eventually grow these shoots instead of the full tree to try to contain the height. They are quite a handsome tree but they do get big.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sauropus androgynus - Sweet Leaf
« on: April 15, 2018, 12:50:15 AM »
Yikes! I didn't know this. I have been maintaining a clump of phakwaan (ผ้กวาน) down at the local park. It was growing wild and we eat it from time to time, it is really delicious. I might be a bit more measured in my consumption now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: grow dabai in container and pot
« on: March 09, 2018, 01:25:46 AM »
Well this page says they are tropical and sub-tropical.
https://ecofrenhealth.wordpress.com/2016/03/25/what-is-buah-dabai/
So you should be able to grow them in Thailand. Though they look like a pretty big tree to be growing in pots.
How do you eat them Sunny?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Least Colorful Mangos
« on: February 17, 2018, 02:42:22 AM »
Kim Hong

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marimari aka cassia leiandra
« on: February 05, 2018, 09:49:20 PM »
Yes, it does have a texture similar to tamarind but the sweetness is more bland without the tang of tamarind. In Australia on the east coast it grows from Northern New South Wales up to North Queensland. It grows down in the Lismore valley so it can tolerate at least light frost. In NSW it is rather charmingly called "Golden Shower". I didn't eat much of it so I didn't experience any untoward digestive accidents that Sunny indicates.
Interesting.Are you its the same species? Golden Shower is a similar plant from the same species.

You could be right Arvind, The Cassia family is quite big and Golden Shower is considered a weed here on the East Coast.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marimari aka cassia leiandra
« on: February 05, 2018, 02:23:05 PM »
Yes, it does have a texture similar to tamarind but the sweetness is more bland without the tang of tamarind. In Australia on the east coast it grows from Northern New South Wales up to North Queensland. It grows down in the Lismore valley so it can tolerate at least light frost. In NSW it is rather charmingly called "Golden Shower". I didn't eat much of it so I didn't experience any untoward digestive accidents that Sunny indicates.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chances of decent jackfruit from seed?
« on: February 01, 2018, 07:08:47 PM »
I have fruited 8 seedlings. Only one requires removal. One is excellent, top tier. The others are good. None of the seedlings resemble the parents. I planted 5 seeds from the same fruit, 4 trees fruited. They are all slightly different. One of the 4 was orange and the other 3 are yellow.  You can plant seedlings 10 ft apart and still get an ok crop. I planted some seedlings 5 feet apart. These trees are still young but one provided over 60 lbs fruit.

How many years from seed to fruit?
Thanks,

Most of my seedling trees here in Cairns take 3 years to produce. You might only get one or two fruit the first time but after that they usually start to pump. I have one tree which has taken 4 years to set but it has set at least 10 already.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: love watching this mango farm in thailand
« on: January 30, 2018, 11:19:38 PM »
Yes, very nice to hear the lao Isaan voice over. Has anyone tried the "cobra tongue mango" (มะม่วงลิ้นงูเห่า) (I don't know what the real english name is)? Is it eaten green or ripe, which other mango does it most closely resemble?  It certainly sets in handsome clusters. That orchard is pretty water stressed but then again Isaan is probably the best area for mangoes.

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OK, nevermind, I just read the promotion in Thai Rat newspaper, the cobra tongue mango is going to be real sour. More of a salad mango but I am sure there will be a few takers around my area.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Taiwan Gold - A big time mango
« on: January 15, 2018, 05:56:19 AM »
Yeah! The Thais in Rustys market call this one Kim Hong (which doesn't make it true, a sale is more important than any accuracy), they also claim it is nice eaten green as well. I haven't tasted them green but I got a few ripe ones a couple of years ago and they all turned out mono-embryonic. I agree it is a nice eating mango as it has very even ripening which large sized mangoes can struggle with.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai Sweet Tamarinds.
« on: December 16, 2017, 09:33:40 PM »
The tree itself is about 3 meters tall by 2 meters wide. This time last year I cut 2 meters off the top to make it grow broader and was kinder successful. I was told by some Thai people that I shouldn't trim it as it would delay the flowering but it hasn't really. I was in Thailand a few months ago visiting a family and they had some wild seedlings growing in their yard that were starting to flower and set fruit and they weren't even 3 meters tall. So I would imagine if you can get some grafts they would be quite precocious and remain somewhat stunted as well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai Sweet Tamarinds.
« on: December 16, 2017, 05:44:56 AM »
Mine has just started flowering after 3 years planted out. I don't know if it will hold fruit but I am happy as it is a seedling and did not expect to see flowers yet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: durio grandiflorus
« on: September 28, 2017, 01:56:45 AM »
Hello posci35
Thats a rare one. Google doesn't show much. I think you might have to take a trip down to Borneo and find some for your self. They seem to be on the endangered list but you might get lucky.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Why young Chempadak plants die
« on: June 23, 2017, 04:51:57 AM »
I also have had a few losses but I am on pretty clayey soil. So I elevated my plants 300 millimeters and kept them shaded until a meter or so high. They are just so feeble when they are young compared to jackfruit. Once past that juvenile stage they grow well, though still waiting for mine to fruit. They are not as precocious as the jack.

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The Northern Rivers of New South Wales were I Previously lived has a real mango reliability problem. Some say cold temperatures at fruit set (<10C) or rain on the flowers, sometimes it is both. Apart from the rough bush mangoes that grow in the parks there is one standout variety, the Kwan Mangoe. If you read the blurb in the link you may get the impression that Kwan is the same as NDM only bigger.

http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/buy/mango-kwan-tree-grafted.htm

No, it doesn't have that deep candied flavor of the tree ripened NDM or the skinny seed or the near fiberless flesh. But it is not too bad and it doesn't split like NDM after a squirt of rain. The leaves can have a little anthrax but the fruit comes up pretty clean. My anecdote is of one tree in my front yard, it fruited for 5 years straight after I allowed it to flower. If anyone knows the origins of Kwan Mango please share as my Google foo ain't up to it   

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango ID help
« on: December 20, 2015, 05:44:29 AM »
If you have a look at the image supplied earlier by EuroFruit. The shape resembles Naangklaangwan, except for the blush. That said, I once planted a long line of Naamdocmai seedlings and only one in four or five grew to produce the classic shape of the mother. Both fruit and tree shape varied considerably in that line. So much for the reliability of the poly-embryonic mango. The wavy leaf margins are quite prominent on Naamdocmai.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai Mangoes
« on: December 20, 2015, 01:09:10 AM »
The image is perhaps a little bit dated also as it doesn't include some more popular recent varieties, such as: mahachanok, kimhong and braamkhaimia. These newer types have been heavily discussed already on this forum and the internet in general.

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I know Mike T is having a gentle troll here but what he says is pretty true. KP does have an iron grip on the Australian psyche. I think the breeders are going in the wrong direction by crossing in the Florida varieties. These varieties have a lot of great characteristics, colour, size, firm flesh but the flavour just doesn't get accepted. I know not all of them have that turpy taste but the early introductions appear to have queered the field. KP has strong Indian influence in it's flavour even though it is poly embryonic, and this is the direction the breeding should be going to intensify this aspect.
He is also right about those mangoes from the parks and beside the road, by the time the real mango season arrives you have already eaten yourself silly. It is a real education to go on an expedition with an Asian as the season develops. You end up with the full analysis of all the uses of the green mango. Not only that just about every park has a jak fruit tree or three. In the future I am sure we will see some durian and langsaat trees making and appearance.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I carry plants out of Australia?
« on: August 07, 2015, 06:23:09 AM »
Hello Jake
If you have a look at this page you will see most of the things you are interested in will probably be OK.
http://www.agriculture.gov.au/export/plants-plant-products/exportersguide
Though as Tropicdude suggests, Australia does have concerns about the importing country but more
for maintaining good relations than anything else I think.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kensington Pride Mango
« on: June 04, 2015, 06:15:49 AM »
KP mango tree produced nicely this year and i've eaten a few of them.
Positive points: nice coloration, totally stringless, no turpentine flavor, nice size.
Negative points: seed very fat and big, flavor very good, but not excellent, production ok but not heavy. Has taken long time to get into decent production.
It has a very mango mango taste, so it's not going to please those people that like watermelon flavored mangoes or lychee flavored mangoes.  ;)
Probably the version of KP we have here is a very early one, not KP176,654.  ;)  So yes this is probably not the same mango being raved about in Australia, but one of its early ancestors.

I think fruitlovers description is not far off the mark. Although I don't know where the "stringless" KP come from, KPs do definately have string. Australia needs to shrug off it's smug self-satisfaction and strive
for a higher quality national mango icon. Regional areas like Florida and Thailand are throwing up exiting new varieties all the time while Australia is seemingly happy to wallow in it's complacency. Australia has more mango growing than both those two places put together. I am up for it, have my 3 Kim Hong seedlings ready to change the taste buds of a naion.

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