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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Majestic fig tree in Gran Canaria
« on: January 11, 2020, 03:00:35 PM »
There is a great fig tree growing wild in the mountains of Gran Canaria at aprox. 1.200 mt over sea level. Unfortunatelly I have no information about production and fruit quality...

I wonder how old this fig could be...

I don't know about the current EU regulations, but due to risk of importing pests to the fragil subtropical ecosistem, there have always been restrictive rules for the Canary Islands. The rules for impoerting seeds, plants or any material are the following: 1. you need a permit 2. you need a phyto 3. no soil 4. some spp. are completelly prohibited.

The reality is, that it is impossible to get a permit and if you get it, then the process at the customs take that long, that most plants and scions perish.

As a result everybody ignore the rules and import ilegal. In fact even big nurseries import whole containers with plants from Netherlands of Spanish Peninsula. I also know from a lot of people who also import seeds and scions in a small scale and I only heard once that a pack of scions was confiscated and destroyed by the customs. So it usually works, but there is a risk of getting confiscted..

I have not tried it, but I am pretty sure about this: If you are lucky, maybe you cold get the grafts to take, but in Winter they would die, because the fig and mulberry sap stops flowing, unlike the jack, which grows year round.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chirimoya Soursoup hybrid sold in Spain?
« on: December 10, 2019, 08:08:15 AM »
I am not talking of Spain in general, but only Canary islands. If you compare regions in Spain, CI are the worst in terms of (school) education. In the (industrial) north, things are better. Here are also some very intelling and educated people, great researchers and horticultural aficionados, but unfotunatelly they are a little minority...

In my opinion the reason that we do not have a more intellectual society is the warm climate, which makes the people lazy... it's more fun hanging up at the beach, then reading a book... ;D

Over the years I have tried to introduce tropical fruit and donated a lot of plants to many people, but its very hard to wake up the interest for new things. And when I explained the difference among cultivars, they mixed up the plants and lost the tags. One year ago I gave a friend 10 diffenrent labeled pitayas, told him to keep the labels so he could later identify them... one year later he does not have a clue which ones he did plant...   :o ???

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chirimoya Soursoup hybrid sold in Spain?
« on: December 10, 2019, 05:20:34 AM »
Unfortunatelly most of the people don't know what they are growing or selling, and very often if they don't have the information, they just tell you anything, in order to give you any reply.

On the other hand, most of the people are not very educated, they only learn from hearing, which leads to many errors and mistakes   :(

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chirimoya Soursoup hybrid sold in Spain?
« on: December 09, 2019, 05:44:53 PM »
This is an atemoya. Canarian people like to come up with names and make stuff up in order to sell something. Thats pretty common. 

Atemoya and there is no soursop in it. Soursop and Cherimoya don't cross.
Thats also my information...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Air Layering with Water
« on: November 30, 2019, 06:33:44 PM »
I recently found some videos about air layering with water instead of soil. It is very simple, but should be very effective. Here are some vids:

Has anyone tried it?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare fruit locations Tenerife
« on: September 20, 2019, 03:35:38 PM »
You have to contact ICIA, not Cueva del Polvo  ;D

Here is a contact list:

I am pretty sure laurisilva is too cold for mountain durio and artocarpus. It is very good for temperate fruits, but not tropicals. Keep in mind, that Borneo is in the tropics and Canary Islands in the subtropics. I would try Borneo mountain stuff close to sea level in CI. the Climate range should be fine, but other factors could be a problem like air humidity, ph, salts, ect..

If you need help germinating seeds or growing stuff, let me know...

Thank you, yes, i was planning to contact Cueva del Polvo.

I have been in quite cold Borneo mountains ( T not rising above 11C for days un Feb), so i think the north or even the laurisilva might be better for the fruit of those areas than the south.
I would try all Artocarpus i can find, some might survive.

You have to contact

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare fruit locations Tenerife
« on: September 18, 2019, 06:54:31 PM »
The best places open to public are:
- Jardi Botanico
- Palmetum

- La Cosma in Bajamar

Private Orchad:
- Finca Niguaria (they will only attend you if you speak spanish)

The real highlight regarding tropical fruit is the experimental orchad from the research institute in Cueva del Polvo:

You can try to contact them, but as far as I know they are no more opened to public or visitors. Only from time to time they make guided tours.

Regarding growing Borneo tropicals in Tenerife, the north of the island is worse for growing them, because it is cooler and they don't get as much heat as in south. The hot southern microclimate is better suited for tropicals. I have never tried with mountain durian, but the regular one and rambutan will not survive... which artocarpur are you refering to?

I have some questions regarding Diospyros blancoi:

- how is the taste/eating quality (I have heard there are many different types, from very bad to vare tasty)
- is this mabolo dioecious?
- how is the germination rate of mabolo seeds?

I am selling 4 P. viridis seedlings for 22 EUR each (shippping not included):

The seedlings a aprox. 30 cm high. The mother tree produces delicious fruit, very sweet, tastes like mamey with a hint of caramel and almond. This is the mother tree (which I obtained from seeds bought in 2009 from fruitlovers):

The plants will be shipped from Germany...

PM send  ::)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: August Harvest
« on: August 09, 2019, 05:18:28 PM »

How is the taste of mendy and abiu piloso?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: YARA YARA SEEDS for SALE/TRADE
« on: August 03, 2019, 06:15:22 PM »
Do you find them in the Amazon basin, or which region in Ecuador?
Are duguetias slow grower, compared to other annonas?
Whats the average germination rate for duguetia seeds?

The same plant in 2018  ;)


Last year I had the first good crop. Unfortunatelly they have very little very dry flesh. However it has a very nice and exotic aftertaste hard to describe, but the flesh is so scant theat you have to eat three in order to get this taste.

For now I will keep the tree as a curiosity, but IMO its not worth growing for the fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ‘Genova Red’ ilama
« on: July 17, 2019, 12:53:42 PM »
My favorite.  I haven't seen one in years.

Favorite ilama, or favorite annona?


I am very dissapointed. I thought the mystery of the jabuticabra would be solved in this video...

 ;D ;D ;D

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sierra Leone Mango Project On YouTube
« on: July 07, 2019, 07:45:23 PM »
Regarding the introduction of new ssp I would consider two things:

- Choose ssp which are not sensitive, like many ultra-tropicals, which are very finicky regarding water, ph, soil, temp fluctuations, etc. Since apparently there is nobody over there who has the same dedication for the plants as you, better choose plants that do not need that much care

- ssp which do not fruit at the same as mango will get more attention by locals. For example black zapote, green zapote, ross, abiu, caimito, artocarpus, atemoya, a. reticulata, casimiroa tetrameria, etc... sapodilla and mamey fruit at the same time but are a must  :)

Regarding the grafting skills, its all about practice  ;)

Will there also be a part 3 with the Jabuticabra?

 ;D ;D

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sierra Leone Mango Project On YouTube
« on: July 07, 2019, 04:19:06 AM »
Very nice project!! Do you plan to increase this mango collection? Wouldn't it be easier to import just scions instead of whole plants?

I would suggest also importing other species, so that they later have fruit year round. So did I donate all kind of seeds to West Africa (you could import just seeds instead of whole plants).

I really enjoyed this vid, amigbro! But you did not show any pouteria and annona. Will there be a part 2?

Madre mia! Tremenda coleccion!  :o

PM send

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Modified bark graft for Mango
« on: June 01, 2019, 06:10:33 PM »
Simon and Chandramohan, thank you very much for this useful information. Next time I will put in practice ;-)

Thank you very much for your reply. Then maybe I am right and it is a kwai muk...

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