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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mango varieties
« on: August 06, 2020, 09:45:29 AM »
To answer the OPs question...
I'd suggest doing a forum search for "best tasting mangos" or "top mangos"  and you'll get some detailed responses.
Long story short though, Lemon Zest, Sweet Tart, Orange Sherbet, Sugarloaf, Super Julie and a few others seems to make the top 10 list consistently.

Concerning Tommy Atkins
I actually had some ripened from a local tree and it was okay.
Flavor was decent (VP and Kent are better), plenty of fiber though. I diced it up so it was like eating a decent Florida mango mixed with a little cotton ball.
I'd take it over some other mangos simply because I'm a sucker for the classic Florida mango taste.
If it was earlier in the season when i had more mangos it would likely go in the freezer for lassi...or maybe the compost

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brunei cherry producing commercially
« on: August 05, 2020, 02:16:47 PM »
Mangosteen has been grown here successfully in a few different places. (so only a handful of trees)
I do admit, I wouldn't put in the time or money to make it work.

The biggest hurdle nowadays is soil, i was hoping G. parvafolia would be more tolerant of high phs soils

Do you know the cold tolerances or soil requirements.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brunei cherry producing commercially
« on: August 05, 2020, 08:15:58 AM »
They look great.
Congrats on the successful crop.

I saw they share similar growth requirements to mangosteen.
How long did your tree take to fruit? ~5yrs?

I'm might consider adding this to my Garcinia collection.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cocktail Mango Tree Idea
« on: August 04, 2020, 01:54:21 PM »
I think the idea of starting out with a VP is a good idea due to the vigor. A cheaper alternative would be to plant a seed (ideally VP)

The way your thinking of top working makes sense but might be hard to manange in a few years.

Here are a few things to consider:

Once you start tipping you are basically are removing any central leader. you'll have a few main braches with some vertical shoots on each.

Top working the bottom branches while letting the top fully grow will make it hard for the grafted sections to grow.
The vigor of the tree wants to grow up.

Its pretty hard to balance trees of even similar vigors, the more you add the harder it is.

North side will receive more shade

As bottom grafts get shaded out those branched might die off.

Maybe if you start from the top and work your way down.
Low vigor varieties on top and high vigor on the bottom.

You'll still have you hands full prunning in either way.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Manilita Mango
« on: August 03, 2020, 08:15:30 PM »
I have a Manilita tree about 10 years old and have been watching it bear for 3 seasons now since I bought the place.
The fruit is tasty, grows very clean and bears heavy. It is fairly early for me.
Two problems:
- the fruit doesn't hold on the tree at all, they drop very quickly when colored up ripe
One day fruit is coloring up, next day they are all on the ground.
- while they taste good when picked from the tree with just a slight bit of coloring, if left to full ripe then dropped the flesh texture becomes rather rubbery.
This was the first year I got fruit from my 4 year old tree.
I was pretty surprised to see how un precocious it was compared to the other dwarf varieties.
I'm actually a fan of the jello texture though but I do agree it loses its flavor pretty fast.

If I had to start over I'd go with Pickering or dwarf Hawaiian.
(If yard space was an issue)

We have a decent amount of people interested in annonas on the forum so I thought we should start a thread to help identify problems.

I'll go first.
My seedlings fruiting soursop has these brown fuzzy looking things on the underside of the leaves.

Tree seems okay and I don't notice ants crawling up the trunk

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me choose some mango varieties!
« on: July 29, 2020, 08:32:35 AM »
  Since most of the top-tier mango trees are vigorous top work your ndm with cecilove. They say it is very manageable and is a sweet tart junior.

Curious to know where you found info on the vigor, I was never able to find any.
As for taste, if found it very similar to sweet-tart as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me choose some mango varieties!
« on: July 29, 2020, 08:23:50 AM »
Cotton candy supposed to be may kept stay small but I don't know if there's any diseases issues

Cotton Candy doesn't stay small.  It is a medium vigor tree.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Malika mango
« on: July 28, 2020, 09:55:46 AM »
Mango fruit still on the tree very little yellow on very tip but when I picked it up and open it already started spoiling around the seed, does anyone know what could be the problem because top of the fruit is still more white and hard, all fruits so far I picked up had that same light  brownish around pit mushy spoiled flesh, please dont tell me I harvested it to soon or to late because there is no sign that its to late because all I harvested were started yellowing very little bottom half is ready to pick but top could be more on the tree because its still hard, I will add picture next I pick one and open.

I find it you wait until you see yellow on Malika or it's parent Neelam you get uneven ripening. Most of the Indian mangos should be picked mature green. It's easier said than done though.

As for the brown around the seed post a picture but it might be internal breakdown as John said

If you see landscape companies doing an install, stop and ask about the pots.  Many times they will give them away and at the very least, would sell for pennies on the dollar.


My dad got around a 100 7g pots for free by stopping by and asking.
I guess it saved them from hauling them away
I'm sure if you throw it a few bucks it will go a long way

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Himalayan mulberry scions
« on: July 26, 2020, 12:18:57 PM »
Can this type be rooted from cutting?

These are one of the few that can't seem to root. Even airlayering seems tough.
In the nursery trade in FL I only seen them grafted (and that's if your lucky enough to find one).
That's probably one of the reasons why it's hard to find.

If you do manage to root it please share the details with us though.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: young mango tasting
« on: July 24, 2020, 02:36:23 PM »
The new name is Tebow mango same mangoes just renamed . Supposed to be pretty good but never really got super popular . Thinking about add one to my collection

You're wrong on both points. It is definitely not rated by the majority of people as a very good mango and it does not have a new name. It was incorrectly renamed for marketing purposes by PIN but that does not mean it has a NEW name. The correct cultivar name is still Young.

In your other post you mentioned multiple names for other plants. First of all, if a plant has multiple variety names, that is usually do to common variety names and not varieties that were developed and named by an individual such as the Young mango was.

Your second example was of multiple common names for a species. That also does not apply in this situation because while the mango tree may have multiple names in other languages, the cultivar names generally remain the same when they are developed by an individual and not just a generic local cultivar name.
incorrect look at oh la la / super Hass avocado cultivar multiple names
You maybe not like young mango having two names it does even if only marketing purposes
Carmen Hass avocado cultivar multiple names again used to be Mendez Hass
And have other mango will multiple names

I understand your point (i think) but it seems the hang up is the choice of wording.
New name and Rename is not the same as multiple names.

A person can have multiple names or nicknames but renaming that person is a redifferent concept.

PIN may have decided to sell Young under a different name but that doesn't mean everyone else excepts it as a replacement name.
The same website that is being used as a source has it listed website a Young, so it might be fair to say it now has two common names. (as unfortunate as it may be).

@cape coral bob

As for taste. I'm glad the OP likes it.
The fruit doesnt suffer from much (don't know about the new diseases though) and is productive.
I'm personally not a fan as are many growers in the Soflo area.
But don't let that stop you from planting it, you are the greatest expert on your own taste.

Happy growing

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Honey Kiss Mango - Worth it?
« on: July 23, 2020, 01:48:39 PM »
Honey kiss is a great mango, not top tier IMO, but i still have a tree topped worked due to its season.
It might be not vigorous for a mango but it is faster than the trompo canistel i have.

I would also like to echo the comments of try before you buy.
Alex (Squam) ships mangoes from his farm so I'd email him.  Its possible he might have some Honey Kiss left.

Also, if you post during peak mango season a lot of memeber from South Florida would be willing to selling their extras.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Looking for balanced acid mango
« on: July 22, 2020, 02:02:41 PM »
Do you have a greenhouse?

Most varieties are pretty vigorous so it would be hard to keep trimmed and productive.

Of the dwarf varieties, Cogshall has the most acid in its flavor.
It's a decent mango, I prefer Pickering to it but it's not like we have many options for dwarf varieties.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Himalayan mulberry scions
« on: July 18, 2020, 09:40:02 AM »
Just wanted to say I have these, they are really good. One of the best Mulberries i've eaten in my opinion.

Thanks for making the scions available, its pretty hard to find now

Sorry, don't have either of those right now.
I'd only ship the 1g pots though

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: first time mango owner, need help
« on: July 17, 2020, 12:15:09 PM »
I use potting soil too. no problems with mangos.
Don't think your mix is an issue unless your using salty beach sand.

What do you fertilizer with and whens the last time you applied it?

If its sprouting out new leaves and they come out fine I wouldn't really worry though

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Zill Mango Variety?
« on: July 17, 2020, 12:11:01 PM »
I just realized i didn't answer the OPs question.

Out of your list Fruit Punch seems to be the best. though it does have problems with MBBS.

As John said i don't think there is a mango that is squirel resistent though.

Others to consider from Gary Zills breeding project are:
Lemon Zest (MBBS issues too, but still a top quality fruit)
Orange Sherbet (Dr. Campbell has been growing them for years)
Sweet Tart
Further down on the flavor spectrum would be Seacrest and Edgar

I'm sure I'm missing some.

We'll find out whats going on with the newer ones when more people have grafted (not topworked) trees over 5 years old.
So i can't recommend those especially if you are only planting one.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: first time mango owner, need help
« on: July 17, 2020, 10:52:49 AM »
What type of soil are you using, from the pictures it almost looks like beach sand

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Zill Mango Variety?
« on: July 17, 2020, 10:39:00 AM »
Carrie is not fast growing and is a small tree, and Coconut Cream is an ugly tree.  So forget those two.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Zill Mango Variety?
« on: July 17, 2020, 10:38:43 AM »
After parsing through your statement you want a

Vigorous Tree
Attractive Tree
Productive Tree
Precocious Tree
Great tasting fruit (not necessarily "top tier")
Squirel resistant fruit

If you are only going to pick one might as well get everything you want in it

Hilary white has been claimed

Updated this finally.

Making room, trying to specialize in Annonas and Garcinias

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Saigon mangoes.
« on: July 09, 2020, 02:23:11 PM »
This is my favorite resin flavor in Mangos as well.

Zinc and its relatives are definitely where you should start.
Also, you need to have Cac if you like that flavor.
So far it has the deepest Indochinese flavor I've tasted (except for some Black/Buxton spice seedlings from Guyana, but these have fiber)

If i had to go for three with this flavor it would be Cac, Zinc and Buttercream.
P22 and J-14 are good too, just don't know much about them yet.

Also if you rename the post to Indochinese flavor mangoes or something like that, I think you'll get more opinions

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