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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba - ID please?
« on: July 09, 2018, 09:44:36 AM »





I suggest you plant the seeds, the soil contained in the soil will do this job, it's good to check if the seeds are still alive, you just make a small cut and check if they are pink or purple, if they are brown, the chances are too small to germinate.








The seeds were not packed in any moist agents.  So, they arrived dried up.  That is why I am soaking it for a few days now.  Also, I am changing the water 2 to 3 times daily.  Even by doing this, it can ferment :o ?


Usually jabuticaba seeds are very resistant, after this period they should reach their destination almost germinated.

About customs of Brazil, you are lucky, most of the packages are actually being held and returned.

Friday I received pagodas with myrtacea seeds that I sent in March and all arrived with my hand sprouted.

I suggest you plant the seeds and draw the water as it can ferment.

as I said by the photos it has everything to be jabuticaba Sabará, but anyway, nothing better than the response of those who posted the seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba - ID please?
« on: July 09, 2018, 07:55:01 AM »
Usually jabuticaba seeds are very resistant, after this period they should reach their destination almost germinated.

About customs of Brazil, you are lucky, most of the packages are actually being held and returned.

Friday I received pagodas with myrtacea seeds that I sent in March and all arrived with my hand sprouted.

I suggest you plant the seeds and draw the water as it can ferment.

as I said by the photos it has everything to be jabuticaba Sabará, but anyway, nothing better than the response of those who posted the seeds.







I have asked the sender to try and ask around if it is this one.  BTW, as soon as I received the seeds, I have soaked them in water.  They were in transit for about 20 days and arrived dried up.  I change the water thrice daily.  It's the second day now.  Still the water turns brown.  Any reason for that?  Also, will these germinate?

Maybe Sabará, Jaboticaba comum.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba - ID please?
« on: July 08, 2018, 04:54:55 PM »
Maybe Sabará, Jaboticaba comum.



I just received some seeds of jaboticaba from Brazil.  The sender is unable to say what specie except that it's a jaboticaba.  These are the pictures of the tree.  Could someone please ID it?  Thank you.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia ID
« on: June 29, 2018, 09:08:49 AM »
Hi

Where did you get seeds or the plant?

It reminds me of some wild plinia, may be a new material.





Looking for an ID on this Plinia / Jaboticaba.It looks a lot different from anything else I have thank you




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Thanks, I always try to get the job done! and you are a great partner to guide me on Australian plant details.

I owe you some new seeds, you can rest assured that in our southern hemisphere spring, I will redo you sending, I must have new and interesting species.

I am waiting to see what will happen on the changes in the laws of Brazil on the sending of seeds, and I intend to resend seeds to several people that I have sent and the packages have returned to me, it is very sad that, but we will solve!

About the friend that is looking for Pouteria Torta, I am looking for some varieties for my friend  also from Australia, in case I get seeds for it, I inform the staff, this fruit has many varieties and morphological variations, it depends on the region here in Brazil

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Yes I have seedlings, but young, is ultra rare to seeds.

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This seeds here is avaliable january to march.


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Hi,

The Chrysophyllum imperiale, is highly recalcitrant the seeds, I harvested some fruits and few seeds germinated, mainly those that I ate the fruits under the tree, these germinated weak, the ones that I kept the fruit and sowed in the moment of cleaning of the pulp, they germinated almost 90 percent, the taste of the fruit is good, I liked it, I can not say about the botanic garden of other countries, but the wild trees that I visited were huge, and the fruit eagerly predated by birds and monkeys.

Here on the farm I have them from 3 different places, from a commercial nursery, and two variations of collections in the forest of Minas Gerais, I did not eat the variety of the commercial nursery, which comes from rio de janeiro, but I believe it to be similar.

It is a tree that needs a lot of space, and here at the farm, they are loving the weather!








Hi Mike,
Do you know if your friend has any other Chrysophyllum imperiale plants?
I'm keen on getting one, located down south in Melbourne - they survive here without added heating.
Cheers
Marcus

I believe there are many Chrysophyllum imperiale trees at Royal botanic garden in Sydney, so you might be able to get seeds (maybe seedlings?) from them.

https://gardendrum.com/2015/08/09/chrysophyllum-imperiale-a-right-royal-tree/

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Heinrichi thank you for the photos, great job!
It's really a very rare species, and the spot on the edge of the beach where they were will be built a condominium, so they will remove the vegetation.

Unfortunately, the customs laws of Brazil have changed, and are not allowing the shipment of seeds abroad, so it will be more difficult to grow these species outside Brazil, or else we will need to create new methods of sending seeds.

Who bought Brazilian seeds made a good deal, because via mail, it will be very difficult to send.

Wilder species, such as some that I have offered in the TFF, will be more difficult to work on, because researching, traveling, exploring the forest, and even collecting partners, are no longer interested in looking for something in the forest, they will not be worth far too much. sending 2 or 3 seeds to pass through the customs, it will be a risk for the country to lose many species, but finally, they are things of government and they always think they are right.

Alexandre









Melanopsidium nigrum seed tray.

Today, I have potted my Melanopsidium nigrum seedlings. On my place, it is more or less cold for half of the year. Therefore, the plants are not expected to flower within the next 3 years. Alexandre, thank you for the seeds. 90 % germination.

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Hi

Here in Brazil, I found this species twice, in the cities of Angra dos Reis and Paraty, state of Rio de Janeiro and at sea level, Atlantic forest. At the time I went behind information about a supposed Abiu Rambutan and found the trees, I only managed to collect seeds from the tree of the city of Paraty, because there were fruits at the time, they are doing very well here in Minas Gerais.

I think these trees in northeastern Brazil are also close to sea level. For these states generally have Atlantic forest only on the coastal plain, the rest of their territories, or they are transitional bands, or they are what we call Caatinga, which is a semi arid biome.

Alexandre.









If you got the seeds from me they are originally from highlands Guatemala, so a sub tropical, and not surprising it survived. They have a wide range, so there are some that are more tropical. So all depends where you sourced them?

Oscar, is P. torta ssp gallifructa a highlands species in general, or does it just have a significant range?  I haven't come across any altitude data on it so far.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Uvaia Blossoming
« on: May 09, 2018, 10:05:16 AM »
Hello,

From the photos, it seems to me common E.pyrifomis, I needed a photo of the whole plant, I never saw uvaia cultivated in the shade, always in full sun, even in the forest, they get huge disputing sun with other trees.

99 percent of the Uvaia are sour, they vary a lot, on the shape and the flavor generally, it is good but sour, it reminds me of the taste of Eugenia Spitata (Araca Boi), There is a hybrid of E Pyriformis x E Lutecens, which is sweet , but nothing like some guys talk about sweet as honey, is acidic.

All these fruits have a characteristic of rapid fermentation, do not serve to store their pulp, or make juices to consume many hours later, and as soon as you remove the fruit from the tree it becomes soft, almost liquified.

You can make juices, jellies and ice creams, once a Taiwanese asked me for 2,000 Uvaia seeds, to plant and sell the fruit in the supermarket, like a fresh fruit, I made a video at the time explaining about this fermentation characteristics and he gave up this huge amount.

It is a fruit very attacked by the fruit fly.

I really like this tree, it's a wild tree where I live, and every place it varies a lot, in the shape of the fruit and in the flavor.

Aexandre

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question on cashews
« on: May 09, 2018, 09:49:14 AM »
Hi

This video features a clone of True Dwarf Cashew, developed by the Brazilian government, the video is in Portuguese, more to get an idea, look at the 2:37 minute, the board informs the date of planting, March 2003 and see the size of plants.

On the color of the cashew be better one or the other, this is relative, there are good yellows and good reds, practically all the anacardium occidentalis are astringent even. The sweetest cashews are usually the Cajuís, which may be less than 1 m high, but it is difficult to grow outside the original Biomes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrIbxDdP0Ug

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Wild Plinia Phitrantha?
« on: March 28, 2018, 02:37:59 PM »
Hi,

Would this species be a wild species of Plinia Phitrantha?
A friend of mine collected these fruits in a forest and according to him the tree is 10 m high, and looks a lot like Plinia Phitranta leaves.
According to him, the fruits were very sweet and tasty, but no more detailed photos were possible because it rained at the time of collection.
Anyone have any ideas on ID?

We followed the work behind collecting dark plinias and without ID!
Thanks.




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Hi

This species of jaracatia the seed has been alive for more than a year!

And the seedlings grow crazy fast! It is a very tasty fruit, already that Annona I ate and I found bad, it has a taste of brine, but worth as a collection item, good sales.









Fruits were harvested from the peruvian jungle. Shipped them to cali. Picked the fruits a month ago. Trees grow close to the rio de madre dios. Lowland jungle.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: fruit fly and jaboticaba?
« on: March 28, 2018, 09:31:04 AM »
It really is rare for the fruit fly to attack jabuticabas, it happens more rarely, usually those who damage the jabuticabas here are the birds and the ants, eventually when very mature other insects can cause damage.

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Hi,

Thanks for the return on the seeds, Plinia Peruviana really is a species for great collectors like you!

It will be a pleasure to send new materials to you and to everyone, lately I have been working with weird species, off the curve! Often people are afraid to buy because they are very unknown, but all material of good quality and taste, But I have many other more common species, those who have interest, I can provide as well.

In November I will visit Plinia Peruviana again, and I should make a video about the tasting of the fruit.

Thank you.

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hi


Is also a eugenics, but Ubaia is a very common name for several fruit trees in Brazil, Ubaia Rubi is from the Amazonia and Ubaia Pitanga Feijoa, is from restingas restricted to the northeast coast of Brazil






Is Yellow Ubaia a sister-species with Red/Ruby Ubaia (E. patrisii)?

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Flowers





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Hi,

Available seeds of Eugenia Azeda

Eugenia azeda, common name Ubaia yellow, or Pitanga Feijoa.

It is a yellow fruit with an acidic taste. It reminds you of the taste of the pitanga and feijoa, very fragrant, very delicious to make drinks like Caipirinha, small compact tree, easy to grow, many white flowers, rare opportunity to have seeds at a good price.


About freight, postage prices and etc, save time and see the attached link.

The postings will be held every Thursday because I live far from the city and only have that date to go to the post office.

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25141.0

All posts will follow Tracking Number.

Selling at least 10 seeds.

Price: Eugenia azeda 3 USD

Questions, use pm or send an email to nelesedulis@gmail.com.

Thank you











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Seeds available from Plinia Grandifolia to Plinia Aureana, material different from what is already outside of Brazil.

Plinia Grandifolia from seeds collected in 2004, Matrix originated from Minas Gerais, what exists outside of Brazil the Matrix are from Rio de Janeiro, then they are different fruits, sweet fruits, similar flavor to Feijoa (Acca Selowiana), excellent pulp / seed, great chance for collectors.

Plinia Aureana, a native type of my region, we do not have a specific name for the variety, very good tasting, lots of water and flavor that resembles a mixture of jabuticaba with Cymbopogon citratus, deliciously refreshing.

About freight, prices of mails and etc, save time and look at the attached link.

The postings will be held every Thursday, because I live far from the city and only have that date to go to the post office.

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25141.0

All posts will follow with Tracking Number.

Selling minimum 10 seeds.

Price: Plinia Grandifolia 5 USD per seed and Plinia Aureana 3 USD per seed. both species required 7 years for first fruits.

Doubts please use pm or email nelesedulis@gmail.com.

Thank you




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Hi

It is a complicated plant to grow, even in other regions of Brazil, a tip I can provide is that it does not grow in pots, or they will die or they will be years of the same size, so once the seeds germinate the ideal is to plant in definite place and with plenty of sun.

Other details that I have said previously, these plants of the cerrado do not like these commercial soils, these lands prepared, the ideal mixture is 80 percent sieved common and 20 percent sand. It is suitable for all species.

About Uvaia, I do not see any relation with cagaita, they are totally distinct plants, cagaita already remember more fruits of cerrado, hard leaves.

About diarrhea, who collected the first time ate fallen fruit on the ground and fermented, if they are at the correct maturation point does not have any kind of problem.

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Berto,

I do not know if you have already noticed, here we have common abius, we do not select varieties, but we have a custom, strange more right!

We only planted in the definitive place the seedlings that have light green leaves! they are earlier, the seedlings born with dark green leaf, we used as rootstock, I think it's a very old custom here in the region and really what has dark green leaves will take many years to bear fruit!









I grow Abiu in SW Florida and one of my trees, a seedling of Z4, fruited in 3 years from seed. I plant them in the ground when they are 6 to 7 feet tall because they are cold sensitive when they are young. They get water every single day, and some organic fertilizer once or twice a year.
Some abius will not fruit by itself and requires another tree next to it for cross pollination. That’s my experience with Abiu here in SW Florida.

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Hi,

Yes, they live inside the forest with lots of humidity, and they exist in swampy places, especially in the Amazon.

Generally I use 200 g per year of potassium chloride so that all sapotaceas that I cultivate form fruits, the abiu can have flowers for several years without fruit formation.






Vulcanic Brazil ???

They're good here for the simple fact of being native! They are born spontaneously in the forest, both Atlantic Forest and Ana Amazonian Forest

Have you seen these grow in wet/flooded areas?

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Vulcanic Brazil ???

They're good here for the simple fact of being native! They are born spontaneously in the forest, both Atlantic Forest and Ana Amazonian Forest

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are Jaboticabas true to seed?
« on: March 01, 2018, 09:10:02 AM »
Hi

You will know here in Brazil vary a lot, they can have lots of sweets, big fruits, small, thick bark, thin bark, acidulated, maybe you have in your country seeds from the same matrices,

About RED Hybrid, they really do seem stable to me.

I would take care of some varieties of jabuticaba that bloom at the same time and can be planted together in the same orchard, maybe in the future this will generate a lot of random hybrids.

Many varieties of jabuticaba originated here in Brazil by geographic isolation, but by planting everything in an orchard there may be mixtures in my opinion.


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