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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time grafting jitters
« on: October 10, 2019, 08:51:26 PM »
Time will tell if your graft takes. It's late in the season and I have had similar new growth at this stage fail.

Hopefully, you will have some luck on your side and warm temperatures.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help ID this lychee
« on: September 26, 2019, 06:38:04 PM »
I have two lychee trees, a Brewster and Mauritius.

Your leaf structure, color and tree form look like a Mauritius but it's hard to say for sure.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mallika and Mahachanok mangoes
« on: September 26, 2019, 06:31:10 PM »
I am looking forward to some Mallika fruit next year.

My small tree is starting it's 2nd flush now and has grown well this year since I placed it in the ground in early 2018.

Your fruit looks delicious.

Johnny



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 20 gallon Coconut Cream mango FS
« on: September 17, 2019, 02:23:10 PM »
Mimosa Nursery in LA has some Coconut Cream trees for $180 but they are on turpentine root stock.

I was there over the weekend and saw a row of them. Must have arrived recently from Florida.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee success in SoCal
« on: September 03, 2019, 07:54:43 PM »
How far is the trunk of your Bruster lychee tree from the wall in your house? (Garage)

I will be planting my Bruster in the ground next spring and want to make sure I place it far enough away. Just wondering on recommended Spacing for these trees.

Beautiful Tree BestDay.

Thanks

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My four mango trees arrived today. Thanks, Phelipe.

Most were larger than expected.  Great service and fast shipment as promised. Even boxed in two separate boxes because of the extra-large size but did not charge extra.

See photos of the trees I received today.

Johnny



Butter Cream Mango Tree after Repotting


Cac Root-Ball


 Cac Manto Tree


Orange Sherbert after Repotting


Seacrest Mango Tree

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: 7 on 1 inverted bud grafts
« on: August 30, 2019, 07:40:21 AM »
Pretty Cool.  I just Did (7) inverted T-bud grafts to four different Rich 16-6 trifoliate rootstocks. Temperatures are warm right now so I am hoping for a high take rate also.

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You can likely manage size of your Gold Nugget on semi dwarf root stock. I finally just completed the removal of my tree and so glad I did. There is so much more room now in my backyard now with that tree gone. My tree was crowing out everything is close proximity including one of my mango trees. You can only eat so much citrus during the main citrus season (January to May) and my Navel Orange, Yosemite Gold, Oroblanco and a few other grafts provide more than enough for our family. Still love the Page for juicing and the Kinnow for its superior flavor later in the season.

Johnny

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal mango flowering update
« on: August 21, 2019, 08:53:26 PM »
Very nice Mangos Simon. In September you should be enjoying killer mangos. Your ST and PPK mango Trees looks excellent.

If you have a chance can you please post some photos of the actual trees from a more wide-angle view like your ST tree photo.

If you can tell us the rootstock of each grafted tree, when it was grafted and how long the rootstock has been in the ground would be helpful to ascertain growth rates hear in California on Non Turpentine rootstock. 

Thanks Man.  Looking Good. Your leading the way Brother.

Johnny

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My Sweet Tart mango tree is finally flushing now. Last year in 2018 it only had one growth flush. Hopefully this year I will get two from this tree. Time will tell.


Sweet Tart Mango Tree (8-13-2019)

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What is the RBZT Method?.

Not sure what you're talking about.

Johnny

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Out with the old...
« on: August 11, 2019, 01:58:31 PM »
Good Job. I too have recently removed (5) dud trees that are either nonproductive, inconsistent in production, mediocre quality or too big and labor-intensive to keep Trimming.

My Gold Nugget mandarin, Cot-N-Candy Aprium, two peach trees and one plum were on the chopping block this year and were hacked down last month.

I love the appearance of my Pdero walnut tree but I only have about 20 nuts from a 15-foot tree and last year was the same. That tree will likely be removed next year. 

Johnny

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Shasta Gold mandarin
« on: August 10, 2019, 11:50:32 PM »
Shasta Gold and Yosemite Gold are very similar.

My eight year only Yosemite Gold on C-35 rootstock it doing very well and loaded with fruit for a bountiful 2020 harvest.

They are alternate bearers with high-quality fruit.  Very richly flavored with consistent production.

Either mandarin fruit tree would be a fine addition.

Johnny



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Don't Let young mango trees hold fruit. Most people want immediate gratification but success is for those that are tolerant and willing to wait.

In California, we have slow and poor growth as it is why give the young tree early stress of production? 

Be Patient. So many impatient growers.

Johnny

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How long has your GN been in the ground Simon.?

You were smart to plant a semi-dwarf tree.

The Gold Nugget has a tendency to get very tall over time.  At first, it will seem manageable but after a decade it will be almost as tall as a grapefruit tree on comparable rootstock, but not as wide.   

Every mandarin tree I have grown over the years alternate bears even with thinning.  It will be interesting to see how your fruit quality is over time with your trifoliate rootstock. I suspect it will be better than mine on C-35 standard rootstock.  Much happier with the more consistent fruit quality of the Yosemite Gold even though it is not as sweet as the Gold Nugget.  Hopefully, you will not get many of those big puffed up round balls of fiber on your semi-dwarf like I got on my C-35 but only time will tell.

Good Luck

Johnny

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You are highly unlikely to find a top tier Gold Nugget purchased from a grocery store but it is possible to get one from a more mature home grown tree. At it's best the GN is like liquid sunshine with a intense sweetness and a moderate mandarin flavor. It is the sweetest citrus I have tasted but not the most richly flavored. The Page, Yosemite Gold and Kinnow all have a richer mandarin flavor compared to the Gold Nugget. The Kinnow mandarin is the best tasting of the bunch but it has one major flaw, 25 seeds per fruit. Also the Gold Nugget is not as juicy as most tangerines, similar to a Washington Navel orange, so if you like to make mandarin juice the Page is perfect because of the high juice content and rich flavor but they tend to be small in size.

It is interesting to note if you choose to grow the Gold Nugget younger trees (less than 6 years) tend to produce mediocre fruit. Older trees will give you a glimpse of what GN is capable of. Look for small to medium size fruit where the skin is thin and tight. About 35-40% of the crop will be in this category and they will be excellent (top tier). Another 35-40% will be fair to good but nothing exceptional in terms of quality, only average. About 25% of the crop will be large lumpy and fibrous balls that are completely worthless and go right into my trash can.

There you have it. I think most people only need one mandarin tree but think hard before deciding which one it is.

Johnny   

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It's interesting your LZ suffered from die back. I had no such issues with my two trees grafted with Lemon Zest. My LZ trees are starting there 2nd flush of the year and are the fastest-growing thus far for 2019. My Nam Doc Mai wants to keep flowering and I wish it would just get growing.

I do regularly spray with Sulfer and on occasion cooper just like you. I did have some powdery mildew with LZ but this also effected some of my manila rootstock trees as well.

By the way, I regularly apply Rock Sust (Azomite) to all of my fruit trees and that solves all micronutrient issues.  Our soil especially needs calcium replenishment from time to time and Azomite has 2% calcium.

Time will tell how well LZ does in our area in the long run.

Johnny

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For the Gold Nugget close spacing is 10 feet or less on standard rootstock. The tree will grow so tall over time it will block out sunlight for trees in close proximity.

On C-35 rootstock the GN will reach 18-20 feet tall. On Semi Dwarf rootstock it should be around 12-13 feet at maturity. It usually produces a crop every other year when it finally does start to produce. (It's a long wait)

The biggest problem with this cultivar is in inconsistent fruit quality. When you get a good one it is top tier and very sweet but some are only fair in quality and others get puffy and fibrous and are awfull.

I can not recommend the Gold Nugget for the homeowners unless you have plenty of room and are very, very patient.

The Yosemite Gold produces earlier, has consistent fruit quality and in my opinion, is more attractive as the leaves are bigger and deeper green. The Yosemite Gold is moderately tall and bushier than the Gold Nugget which is more erect.  My YG is a keeper and produces large seedless fruit with a wonderful rich flavor. 

Johnny 

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If you have a Gold Nugget you do Not want to place it in close proximity to any other fruit tree. Over time the GN Mandarin will tower above any tree close to it and block light. Also it's aggressive root system will crowd out anything close. If you want this tree the only solution is one with a semi-dwarf root stock but you will likely have to wait a long time (5-6 years minimum) for meaningful fruit production to begin.  I would much rather get a navel orange tree as they start production within several years of planting and much more consistent than the Gold Nugget. Just my experience growing citrus for 30 years.

Johnny

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After nine years my Gold Nugget mandarin on C-35 has produced on one good crop. The tree is too tall, grows fast once established and requires constant maintenance to keep it under (14) feet.  By giving it a haircut every year this reduces new fruit production for the following season. The Gold Nugget also is alternative bearing like most mandarins but I found the fruit quality to be variable with some fruit being excellent and others to be dry and fibrous. My Yosemite Gold has both more reliable production and fruit quality and my Cara Cara Pink Navel produces excellent fruit each year with a much smaller foot print. In my view both of these trees are superior to the Gold Nugget.

If I had more room in the backyard and was to do it over again I might plant one Gold Nugget on semi dwarf Trifoliate root stock but there are other citrus trees that offer better long term consistency. 

Johnny

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Extreme chlorosis
« on: July 07, 2019, 07:36:04 PM »
Why don't you just add Rock Dust (Azomite) for all of the trace elements and some organic fertilizer like chicken manure or worm casting?

I don't understand your treatment (liquid smoke). Just give the plant what it needs and you will be fine.

Johnny


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I can probably answer your question in about 1-2 years, unfortunately not now.

Growing five varieties of sapodilla and only Morea has fruit right now. As the trees mature and produce more it will be interesting to compare the various flavors and textures. 

Only Tikal and Molix are in the ground at the present time but I plan on grafting the others to my more established trees later.

They all seem to grow well and flush before most of my mango trees here in SoCal.

Johnny

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 1st cotton candy aprium harvest
« on: June 26, 2019, 07:56:12 PM »
I have been eating my Cot-N-Candy Apriums for the past 4-5 days and while I find them good to me they are short of excellent. On a 1 - 10 scale probably a 6 or 7 if you catch them at the right time.

Shelf life is very short and you must pick and eat them promptly or quality is lower. Pick them too early like a hard peach they are not good. Pick them too late they get soft and mushy like an overripe cherry. Their texture is 75% apricot and 25% plum. Taste more similar to apricot with some definite plum influences. They are fairly sweet but lack the rich flavor of good homegrown apricots.  Top tier pluots like Favor Grenade are much better tasting in my opinion. 

Is the tree worth having?  For me probably not as I have limited space and I have already a few branches grafted it onto my Tropic Gold Apricot tree so I will likely remove the CNC Aprium after if finishes fruiting. I will still have some fruit in later years from the (3) Cot-N-Candy grafts I did. Another good but overhyped new fruit cultivar by the folks at Dave Wilson Nursery.

Here are a few photos.

Johnny






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My favorite vinyl electrical tape is Plymouth Premium 37.  It stretches very nicely, holds tight and leaves no residue.

I bought mine at an electronic supply shop for $5 a roll.  It is made in Spain according to the label.

Johnny

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I use white Vinyl electrical tape to wrap the scion connection at the bottom. Not the cheap stuff at home depot.

It can stretch and form a tight union of the scion and rootstock. If rubber bands work for you that's cool. In any event the tighter the connection the better chance of a cambium union.

It's a number game regarding grafts. Many Variables including weather. In Florida, you have nice hot weather.

Here in California today our high was 71, low 62. That sucks for growing subtropicals. We need more heat.

Good Luck

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