Quote from: Axel on February 15, 2020, 12:25:42 AM

I planted 45 trees of Luc's garcinia about 2 years ago to complement my achacha trees, someone has since mentioned to me that they are slow to fruit and mediocre producers. is this true? DId I waste a bunch of space on them? So far these trees are strong growers even under neglect, and the roots go straight down, which is unusual as most trees in our climate are too lazy to go down given how much moisture is at the surface. But they're only a little faster than my regular mangosteens. Most artocarpus grow to 12-15 feet in a year in our climate, but the garcinia as a whole are significantly slower. Right now I seem to get about 2-3 feet a year with adequate fertilizer.

Guess you missed my previous post? This species looks like it's not going to set fruit in our very rainy climate. Three years in a row flowering, and only one fruit set. Now i find out that area of Mexico has very dry weather for many months when the plants are flowering.

We grow Diamond river.  How does that compare to Ping Pong and Lada?
Peter

Look out for Longan Lada, it's known for fruiting 3/4 times a year in tropical weather....

By topping a tree you can make it be immortal if it sends new shots from the roots.When i want to make an old tree young again,i give it a chainsaw trim.Somme fruit trees can exhaust themselves by breeding making fruits and die too young.Spondias are notorious for doing this.
 I had to trim somme apple trees this year because they made soo manny apples that the weight of them broke their branches. Off course this practice doesnt work with any specie of fruit trees .

Quote from: arvind on May 27, 2019, 03:46:24 AM

If only someone can bring those variety to Western countries I believe it can change the assumption that all mafai dioceous

I think you might be misunderstanding the thread above, particularly the most recent post by sahai1. There's nothing here to suggest any Baccaurea are not dioecious.

We bought an orchard about 2.5 years ago and there's a pretty big mafai tree there (planted by the previous owner) which hasn't yet fruited. The tree has no obvious signs of grafting.

This year was the first year that we spotted male flowers near the leaves, similar to the second picture on this page:
https://dokmaidogma.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/burmese-grape/

I was watching the tree for female flowers almost every day for several weeks after that, but they didn't appear.

How likely is it for hermaphrodite trees to not fruit one year and only have male flowers the next? Is there still a chance that this is not a totally male tree?

Quote from: arvind on May 12, 2019, 04:49:55 PM

Yes I have heard of grafting male and female plants on a rootstock.but haven't seen it being implemented at least in malaysia.maybe it's hard to be done or it has some weakness.btw how do you spell mafai rien in Thai words.i want to search about it on google

pretty sure Mafai Rian (Tong)  translates as Golden Coin Mafai, is just a variety of Baccaurea ramiflora lour., a better variety bred for thinner skin, color, etc.

Here is the Thai name:  มะไฟเหรียญทอง  So generally speaking Mafai Rian Tong is Mafai, and other varieties are not scientifically Mafai, but are still called by Mafai.  So that Mafai refers to Baccaurea species as well, such as Mafai Kwai, Mafai Si Daeng, Si Muong (red, purple) etc.  This is Thai for Mafai :  มะไฟ

มะไฟควาย - Mafai Kwai - Baccaurea macrocarpa
มะไฟกา - Mafai Ga - Baccaurea parviflora
มะไฟแดง - Mafai Daeng -  BACCAUREA SCORTECHINII HOOK.F. (same as Mafai Ga?)
มะไฟจำปูลิ่ง - Mafai Jampu Ling - Baccaurea minor
มะไฟลิง - Mafai Ling - Baccaurea polyneura

deep south only:

ละไมป่า - Lamai Pa - Baccaurea bracteata
ละไมลิง - Lamai Ling - Baccaurea javanica
กะดองดอง - Gadongdong - Baccaurea macrophylla
ส้มไฟดิน - Som Fai Din - Baccaurea ptychopyxis

two other Thai ones but not find scientific name, may be another name for one of the varieties above:

มะไฟสีม่วง - Mafai Si Muong - Purple Mafai ??
มะไฟข้าวเหนียวดำ - Mafai Kow Niow Dam - Black Sticky Rice Mafai ??


Credit this website with a lot of the Thai names:  http://my-experimental-farm.blogspot.com/2014/05/blog-post_26.html

My mafai were not very sweet but taste was ok...they were small and have many pits...almost nothing to eat. They are smaller than longkong and less sweet...better grow longkong or another fruit.

Now i know why they are so hard to find.