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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherry of rio grande
« on: April 25, 2018, 01:05:38 AM »
Cherry of the rio grande is variable. I have a 8 foot tree that has produced fruit the past
3 years and I got it as a 3gal 6 years ago around 3'. I raised another tree from a  plug that has very different leaves and
it had flowers this year but didn't set and it is 3 years old. Hopefully next year? I would think 2-3 years
is a safe bet on a 3 gallon. What a delicious fruit!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds
« on: April 23, 2018, 05:26:54 PM »
Is your Pitomba a Talisia or a Eugenia? The common name goes for species in two different genera.
It is Eugenia luschnathiana

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds
« on: April 23, 2018, 12:38:46 PM »
Hello

I was wanting to know if your  Zills Black Surinam Cherry tree is an authentic grafted tree?

Cheers :)


Finally have some fruit on my trees

pitangatuba $1ea
Zill's Black suriname cherry $1ea
yellow grumichama $1ea
pitomba $1ea
Cherry of the rio grande $1ea limited

domestic shipping is $4 with tracking per shipment

Thanks
I have 3 grafted Zill's black Suriname cherry trees.

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I am not in California and am surprised some fellow California members
are not sharing their experiences? In Florida I have had better luck so far growing jabos in pots.
My PH is not high like I originally thought but I put a red jabo in the ground and it was not happy.
I ended up pulling it and putting it back in a pot. I notice for me the jabos seem happier in partial shade.
I had two grimals in pots that were getting sun all day and I put them in a spot that only gets morning sun
and they are much happier and greener.

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Sri lanka beetle, feed at night.

Looks like to me!  Orkine should go out at night with a flash light and take a look.  Though heavy rain today might have washed then down to the ground for a day or too.

If you see these critters at night you can spread a tarp. Shake them off the tree, then gather up the tarp and stomp on them. Or some kerosene aka diesel fuel from your local gas station at the low point in the tarp will kill them.
Unfortunately picking off the ones you see will not rid you of them. They hatch and live underground for their larval
stage and continually infest the tree. It drove me crazy and some people say it's just an eyesore but they were eating half the
leaves off. There is no way this is beneficial to your tree. This is the best solution I have seen
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003IMIPF4/ref=psdc_3737951_t1_B00C4Y286O

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds
« on: April 22, 2018, 06:55:46 PM »
Which one is best taste do u think?
international shipping is possible?
Pm sent

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds
« on: April 22, 2018, 06:54:58 PM »
How is the pitangatuba in 9b? I'm always interested in things that grow well in pots. :)
I got 30F one night last winter and the trees were fine. 

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Picture one looks like Sri Lankan Weevil
They are active at night and easy to see. I tried allot of
things to control them and finally figured out this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003IMIPF4/ref=psdc_3737951_t1_B00C4Y286O
I use 1/2 oz. per gallon of water and drench leaves and trunks of tree.
The weevil's larvae hatch and feed on the roots of the tree so after treatment
a infestation  may reoccur in 30 days or so. I check my trees at night with a flashlight.
 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / seeds
« on: April 22, 2018, 02:31:17 PM »
Finally have some fruit on my trees

pitangatuba $1ea
Zill's Black suriname cherry $1ea
yellow grumichama $1ea
pitomba $1ea
Cherry of the rio grande $1ea limited

domestic shipping is $4 with tracking per shipment

Thanks

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Cherry of the rio grande and GUABIJU should be ok, When I was at Adam's at FFF
he had Barbados cherries planted out side? Also Uvaia should work. 

Check out what huertasurbanas is selling, He is from Argentina and has stuff that
will work. Very nice seller and he will inform you on low temps that his plants can
take. Miguel pt from Portugal has a 9b greenhouse and his property is 9a. He has
a wealth of info and experience.

There are some real zone pushers on this forum and can give pointers on how to
stretch the limits. I am in 9b on the edge of 10a and also find myself pushing. I have allot
of mulch and organics around my trees and on cold nights I water heavy and this year I got
30F one night and got through it ok. I have a cotton candy tree and it got burned a bit
but not seriously.

I find myself checking the records temps for my area and it can get really cold here
throughout history. There were record nights in the teens here in the past. Scary!

Welcome to Florida!



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never had a chewy and firm sugar apple before.  Can anyone confirm Na Dai here are indeed chewy and firm?  Even when they're over ripe?

I had over two dozen Na Dai last year from 4 trees. You could peal them by hand and the texture
was firm. I cut them in chunks which made the seeds come out easier. What a delicious fruit. I got
another unnamed type from the motel in town. The skin did not peal off and I cut it in half and ate
the contents with a spoon. It was equally as tasty as the ones I produced. Both types were seedy

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Pm sent

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat Seedling or Cutting?
« on: April 14, 2018, 07:03:49 PM »

I have Peluche, Vista White, Tori, Avri, Novak and Puppelo. I will have to see which ones I can get scions from. Let me know what you decide to do.
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Wow that's an impressive list. Do you get fruit from them all yet? Which is your favorite?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla choice
« on: April 13, 2018, 02:58:52 PM »
I've had both makok and silas woods -- both for about a decade. I strongly believe the silas woods to be a seedling of makok. Here are some of the things I've noticed:

 - Silas fruits are better tasting. They are white fleshed and have a smoother, honey flavor, where makok is more of a strong piloncillo flavor and a dark brown color. (Silas fruits will look and taste more like makok if allowed to ripen on tree.)
 - Both trees are extremely productive and very precocious. Both also produce fruit year round.
 - Fruits on both are small, but silas tends to be just a hair larger.
 - Silas and makok both get raided heavily by possums and raccoons -- they are the cause of broken branches. Silas is slightly more brittle than makok, but broken branches are an issue on both due to the animals that climb the trees to harvest the fruit.
 - Both trees are dwarf, but makok might be just a hair smaller and slower growing.
 - Makok can suffer from a ripening issue where some of the flesh is soft. I never fully figured out the cause.

The silas is a better tree. I ended up yanking my 13 year old makok.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=piloncillo+pronounciation&&view=detail&mid=FA6440EAA4F1608D20F4FA6440EAA4F1608D20F4&rvsmid=198DCA858A5684491C0B198DCA858A5684491C0B&FORM=VDQVAP

Thanks I learned a new word, I actually like the taste of piloncillo and
it is a perfect description of the taste!
The only origin I have heard is that Silas Wood came from Pine Island?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla choice
« on: April 13, 2018, 02:51:26 PM »
I've had both makok and silas woods -- both for about a decade. I strongly believe the silas woods to be a seedling of makok. Here are some of the things I've noticed:

 - Silas fruits are better tasting. They are white fleshed and have a smoother, honey flavor, where makok is more of a strong piloncillo flavor and a dark brown color. (Silas fruits will look and taste more like makok if allowed to ripen on tree.)
 - Both trees are extremely productive and very precocious. Both also produce fruit year round.
 - Fruits on both are small, but silas tends to be just a hair larger.
 - Silas and makok both get raided heavily by possums and raccoons -- they are the cause of broken branches. Silas is slightly more brittle than makok, but broken branches are an issue on both due to the animals that climb the trees to harvest the fruit.
 - Both trees are dwarf, but makok might be just a hair smaller and slower growing.
 - Makok can suffer from a ripening issue where some of the flesh is soft. I never fully figured out the cause.

The silas is a better tree. I ended up yanking my 13 year old makok.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=piloncillo+pronounciation&&view=detail&mid=FA6440EAA4F1608D20F4FA6440EAA4F1608D20F4&rvsmid=198DCA858A5684491C0B198DCA858A5684491C0B&FORM=VDQVAP

Thanks I learned a new word, I actually like the taste of piloncillo
The only origin I have heard is that Silas Wood came from Pine Island?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat Seedling or Cutting?
« on: April 13, 2018, 02:43:27 PM »
I have 2 1/2 acres, well I did have that much room once. I have remote places in my
yard that I could plant it. Even seedling trees produce eventually and you could wait and see.
If you don't have allot of room then you could either graft a known cultivar on it now or plant it
and graft different scions later?  I have never seen loquats offered from cutting or airlayering?
That should tell you something? How big is it now? My neighbor gave me an 18" seedling in a one
gallon and I ordered a peluche scion from California. It arrived in 3 days wrapped in buddy tape and
I grafted it. Pretty simple and it is pushing growth from the top? The scion cost me $8 including shipping.
If you have a multi branched tree you could graft a couple branches with different types and leave one to
see if it turns out to be Vista White. I prefer non cocktail trees and have some room to spare. When I
run out of room or if I had less space it might make sense. Wait a month and have a guy call up Willis
and ask them if they carry grafted loquat trees.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achachairu fruits for first time
« on: April 13, 2018, 09:52:58 AM »
I used to live in Mississippi and had to buy a lot of tropical plants online. I've used this site called plantogram before and they sent me two pretty healthy tree. They often have the Achacha tree in stock but right now it's out of stock. I see a 3 gallon for $130 as of now.

https://plantogram.com/product/achacha-super-fruit-tree/
There is a forum member who was recently selling them from Puerto Rico for
much less. I got some last year along with a cinnamon apple from a different forum member.
Check the search and do a little research. Also a forum member was selling seeds not too long ago.


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I hope you like the fruit?
Not everyone does.
If you are like me then you will end up with both the makok and silas wood.
And the Haysa and the morena....
If you can only get one tree, try to sample the fruit. I like the makok the best.
My two Silas wood are growing better though and eventually will have more fruit


The Yucatan types sounds really interesting, I can't wait for a report on their
taste and performance

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat Seedling or Cutting?
« on: April 13, 2018, 09:29:00 AM »
Willis orchard is also Ty Ty nursery. They have a poor reputation.
I bought a white mulberry from them and also a Pakistan mulberry.
The first year I planted them I got small black fruit on them?
The trees grew great but never fruited again. Not only did they send
me the wrong trees they sent me trees that need cold to fruit.

I have heard you can root loquat cuttings but I have never had one root? I have only tried
a dozen times or so. If it is a rooted cutting it will produce allot sooner then a tree
grown from seed. Supposedly the trees don't grow true from seed? It has white
fruit but you may have to wait 5-7 years to find out.

I would find a more reliable place to purchase trees. Why does a nursery sell trees under more then one name?

Better yet plant 6 seeds and graft your own. There are some awesome people on this forum
that sell scions, recently a member sold me a peluche scion and so far it is pushing. I planted 6
more seeds to try next year.

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Thanks for the info guys, if Alano blooms year round would that mean it would fruit all year round? Sorry Iím a bit confused   ???
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I ate a makok last week and have a silas wood on the counter.
Both trees have large and small fruit on them and they are flowering profusely.
The only thing that slows my trees down is cold weather. It does seem like
they flower heavier in the spring. Last year I had 100 small fruit on my makok
and I cut off 4 for ever one I left. It just keeps on flowering! 

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I have 4 different types besides alano and they are all flowering now.
It won't be long and you'll be eating your first fruit
Good looking tree for what it's been through. Why the double pot?
If you can't put it in the ground I would put it in the bigger pot?
It seems like allot of tree for that smaller pot?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla choice
« on: April 12, 2018, 03:28:21 PM »
I wouldn't leave out makok as an option.
It is also dwarf and so far it is the sweetest I have tasted and a good producer.
This past winter I was 30F one night and 32F two nights in a row. My trees were fine and didn't drop
fruit. My trees aren't 3 gallon size, they are a couple years old. I have 4 types of grafted trees
in the ground and makok is my favorite. For me there is no such thing as a bad sapodilla.
 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat - when is it ripe ?
« on: April 12, 2018, 12:58:52 PM »
I like to eat them when they are a little green, which makes them a
bit more tart. You can peal them before you eat them. The one in the picture
looks ripe. There are so many types, some are more orange and there is a
huge tree down the road from my house and every fruit has exactly one seed.
I have seen some have as many as 3-4 seeds. I may end up grafting that tree?
The best thing I like to do is get a handful and sit outside in the shade and peal them
and spit the seeds as you go.

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If you have a Diamond R in your area they sell 50 lb bag of Nutricote for a little
under $60. I have a Daimond R in my area and usually they have the best deals

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