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There is nothing in that part of India. I just came back from coastal Karnataka few days ago. I know exactly what you are seeing now. Only parts of Kerala has right climate for durian and other exotics. Where I was it hasn't rained since August.  Just not the right climate. The only really exotic thing at the moment is mango which started, tasted some varieties I never heard of. Wasn't very good. Indian heavyweights should come later
You can take 1 hour flight from Bangalore or Chennaito to Sri Lanka. Every market and lots of roadside stalls have durian and mangosteen right now. Totally different scene from India.

My experience while keeping up with the thread headline.
I gave up on it. Slower than mangosteen, stays tiny forever it seems. Every few months gets completely overwhelmed by other vegetation. In my case not worth the effort, but maybe different story for someone planting in well maintained lawn.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pulasan trees flowering . . .
« on: February 22, 2019, 11:31:08 AM »
My seedling pulasan flowered for the first time but nothing happened. What does that mean? Could be a male tree or do they set fruit on repeated attempts?

My phone tells me 21,780 sqft in 0.5 acres.
8 ft spacing would work

At just 4 feet trees would touch other. You need some space between trees, so trees have basically just 3.5 feet to extend their "wings". That's almost your arm's length.
What's the purpose here? Productive orchard or a field of unappealing looking mango sticks?

Maryoto, can you please help me to id this artocapus because you actually see trees in person. I bought from you many years ago. Is this artocapus sp (local name Bondon) or a keledang? Those are only two I had when planted.(sorry, photo sideways)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: keledang seed growth
« on: February 08, 2019, 11:00:21 AM »
Can any of you post picture of the small tree? I might be able to tell something about growth speed if I can id unknown artocarpus correctly (it's none of the more common ones)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / ants farming?
« on: February 04, 2019, 05:10:23 AM »
Anyone knows what's going on here?  Usually I see different species of ants farming scale or mealy bugs in an activity like this. But no bugs visible with naked eyes apart from ants of course.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zero Chill/Tropical Mango Flowering
« on: February 01, 2019, 09:31:44 AM »

So my question, for those in the true tropics;

how long does it take for your mangoes to flower once seasonal dry period begins?

What has been your experience with multiple crops?

I guess my answer is 6 weeks since last rain and most stubborn tree is finally flowering. There are two more Zill's varieties multi grafted on this tree but those are not flowering. Label is lost, but I'm 90% sure it's Carrie.  The tree is huge by Florida backyard standards, should have produced long time ago.

I have Rapoza,  that is known to flower in rain, and it has been behaving just like that. Can flower anytime of the year. Right now it's holding fruit, and more flowers are coming. It's 91 F or 32 C everyday of the year except in rainy season when cooler.

You just need to use your brain,and don't follow blindly everything you read some supposed "authority" says. Internet is full of misleading information from all kinds of authrorities. He probably meant grafted, even if he meant seedling it's probably some anecdotal evidence he heard from somebody.  I have 7 mesta trees, 6 years from seed. They grow exactly at the same speed like regular mangosteen and look exactly like regular mangosteen. Until it fruits no one will ever guess the difference.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Visit to Malaysia.
« on: January 16, 2019, 08:53:31 AM »
Could you please share name of the nursery where you got grafted durians? Did they survive bare rooting?
Manggis Mesta has viable seeds, but you need to eat like 1 kg to find 1-3 good seeds.
That's the only mangosteen I'm growing. All from seeds. Don't have regular mangosteen.
I got the grafted durians from 'Karak Tong's Nursery'. I have one 4 year old Mesta seedling and now one grafted one.
25 years ago when I went to Malaysia, I ate only Kampung durian, because that was the only one available then. 5 years ago when I went to Malaysia,I ate only Musang king. But this time, thanks to TFF, I knew which all durians to ask for!!! Similarly during all my visits, my sister stopped me from buying 'Cempedak' saying it was no good. But this time, thanks to TFF, I bought and ate Cempedak, and believe me it is far better than any Jackfruit I have eaten in my life!!

Thank you for letting us know.

You can come to SL, it's durian season now. $2-4 for seedling fruits. If lucky, can get quality as good as D24 sometimes.

I have a 'mesta' which is almost 4 years old.

Well, we went through this with this person before. First special variety 2 years from seed, now 4 years from seed. No matter what, it's still mangosteen. I believe textbooks say something like 10-15 years from seed. Some people able to turbocharge them and get 6-7 years from seed, but those are very rare exeptions.
My mesta seedlings planted 4 years ago, and before than 2 years in nursery.  Nowhere near fruiting.

I know this gets beat to death but it still seems relevant to talk about with so many new varieties.

That's just gross understatement. This topic has been beaten to death, than brought back to life with some magic woodoo powers in order to be beaten again :))

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Visit to Malaysia.
« on: January 15, 2019, 10:58:01 AM »
Could you please share name of the nursery where you got grafted durians? Did they survive bare rooting?
Manggis Mesta has viable seeds, but you need to eat like 1 kg to find 1-3 good seeds.
That's the only mangosteen I'm growing. All from seeds. Don't have regular mangosteen.

Jackfruits and many other artocapus species have high turnover rate. The ground under my trees is absolutely littered with fallen leaves that start to yellow first. This is normal, nothing to worry about.
The tree is very hardy, once a week watering maybe too much, especially since cool weather in FL. In India they grow wild in some places with 8 months long dry season.

It just means no planting material is allowed out of the country, as this rule is very common throughout the world. It's hardly enforced anywhere and there is 1 out 100 chance of being caught. No need to make big deal out of it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangoes In Tropical Ecuador?
« on: December 17, 2018, 01:52:49 PM »
You can also look into
Karutha Kolomban
Vellai Kolomban

Both from Sri Lankan and the literature I see says known to set fruit in rainy weather

Yes, that's true, but most of the "wet" part of the country does get close to 3 months dry period. There maybe few occasional  rains during dry period. The rest of the year two monsoons ( that can be very intense) and some inter monsoon rains.

 I thought by very high rainfall he meant something like 4000 mm as it is is some parts of Western Amazonia. But 2000 mm is probably doable with some effort. You can try.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangoes In Tropical Ecuador?
« on: December 16, 2018, 02:05:21 PM »
Mountanous areas aren't South Florida. His particular area sounds too wet. Maybe valley next door 20 miles away 5X less rain and is perfect for mangoes. Depends on local complexities.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: incan peanut seeds for sale/trade
« on: December 16, 2018, 01:46:59 PM »
Bush2Beach, are talking about Waipio? Everybody has bamboo poles, since most of valley is private property. Besides, real reason it has more to do with wild horses in the valley rather than humans or being unfriendly. Anyway welcome to my place anytime.  I'll give just about everybody royal treatment: )

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Another rewarding Borneo fruit trip
« on: December 16, 2018, 01:38:02 PM »
What does it all mean? No more Davao trips in future??  ;D  ;D

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangoes In Tropical Ecuador?
« on: December 16, 2018, 01:36:01 PM »
It's just too much rain, unless you want to deal with perpetual issues and almost no results. Besides it will probably taste bland in this climate, no matter how good parent variety is. Get indica species from Boeneo, adapted to your climate. Not a real thing, but some are fairly close.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit identification
« on: October 27, 2018, 11:58:26 PM »
Over ripe bitter melon.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What avocados can live in -10C?
« on: October 27, 2018, 08:16:27 PM »
How does it get to -10C in Pusan/Busan? You are in a coastal region and on the same latitude as Malta, Crete, Gibraltar, North Carolina...

Anyway, try and get seeds of the avocado cultivar "Aravaipa" or "Don Juan". I tried before but nobody wanted to engage. Good luck.

There is a tremendous difference between all those points in Mediterranean and North Carolina with South Korea. Latitude isn't everything.  Last two are firmly temperate climates.  No shortage of hard freezes in North Carolina even in warmer coastal areas. Unprotected avocado tree in South Korea is a wild idea and should be replaced with something more doable. Even if temps don't reach -10 that particular winter, persistent and consistent temp around freezing will get the tree every year.

Is there particular reason you want to grow R2E2? I gave it a chance like 4 or 5 times, kept thinking it's just a bad batch. All of them were Australian imports, tried at different places around the world. They are not worthy, basically Australian version of Tommy Atkins. In fact threw away two fruits after just one bite. It was that bad.

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