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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Malika mango
« on: Today at 06:17:43 PM »
I already posted pictures if you please would look at them and let me know
Johnb51 gave a reply in post #1....

I have seen this occur most commonly in young trees and the same trees in my yard usually don't have it or have less of it the next year when the tree is bigger and older with a bigger root system also to acquire more minerals etc. from a larger area.

I have 3 Mallika trees that were planted over 5 years ago. Unlike Squams experience in this years crop, my crop has tasted better than any of the previous years. The first 2 years of production I did not like them but one of my family members has always enjoyed them... This year I like them a lot. I currently have about 7 in the house in refrigerator to save them as I enjoy them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: August 04, 2020, 04:35:41 PM »
I have enough accumulated injuries that I'm always looking for ways to avoid exacerbating them.  A mattock is a useful tool, but unnecessary for bananas, and is a lower back killer. 
Sorry you have lower back pains; perhaps increase walking and sit ups if allowed by your physician to increase your core strength. Hopefully the requester does not. Also sit as little as possible as sitting vs. standing increases odds of muscle pains in lower back, at least in my opinion.

I thought I had quoted the requesting party describing the digging site.... Oh, I did...........The requesting party said "It's rooted into a bunch of river rocks, bounders, brecia, maybe some cement."

If they know what they are talking about and I assume they do as they requested advice, IMO a shovel is a poor choice for getting through boulder, river rocks, & cement..... But the tool I listed with a much stronger thicker blade with 5 lbs weight would create enough force per square inch on the thick smaller sized blade to easily break apart rock and cement in most situations..... IMO definitely Far Better than a flimsy shovel just waiting for you to bend the end of the weak thin shovel blade on cement or a boulder rock as you spend way more wasted time hitting the cement and rock without penetration. I would NOT recommend the use of a shovel in cement rock combinations....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: August 04, 2020, 12:17:13 PM »
But, yeah, there's something about this banana tree that's intractable for me.  It's rooted into a bunch of river rocks, bounders, brecia, maybe some cement. 
I'm in sand so much easier. But I have separated some oak roots & they are a pain. My favorite tool is this variety with two nice cutters on both ends. The smaller for the really thick roots and the bigger for the rocks & easier root removal.  This one is currently not available but here is an amazon picture/description ::: https://www.amazon.com/Truper-31638-5-Pound-Mattock-Fiberglass/dp/B002UF7R72/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=root+axe&qid=1596557111&sr=8-6

I was unaware of the need to remove the root mass so thanks for the information....  But I have previously removed pups etc. from a group & this tool cuts through the banana root mass easily easily easily; no where near as difficult as oak tree root removal. Using a shovel is much more difficult than using this tool listed above for cutting banana mass or oak tree roots (almost impossible if big oak roots & don't try it with a shovel lol )

3:05 minutes into youtube video shows the use of small end cutting off tree roots of a guy removing a tree.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePOh3nfN08Q

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I have a really nice 4-5 yr old Carrie and not impressed with the fruit. I just watched a youtube of a tasting of Carrie, they were more yellow than green! Mine maybe have a tiny area of the hint of yellow.
If I let them fall off the tree or they fall into my hand if lightly touched from greenish yellow to yellow they are ok to me IMO if I eat them within 24 hours or refrigerate immediately & a little longer. Even if yellow they seem to be ok if eaten right off the tree and retaining sweetness  but the sourness is less without the greenish tint IMO.

But, if I pick them greenish yellow and let them sit on the counter at room temperature till all yellow; the sweetness seems to leave them and I would not eat an all yellow one at that point as it's no longer as sweet and the sourness is also less and I like to chew on the seed for this sourness taste when picked right off the tree or when greenish yellow.... So IMO it tends to keep  sweetness if on the tree and all yellow but not if ripened off the tree.... Just my opinion, and it does have a very short time for me to eat it and enjoy it.... I think I ate too many this year and am now reverting back to other more traditional mangos... too much of anything numbs the senses to the desire for more... lol.

I do like them all green also but unable to explain how one should pick unless it just comes off when touched or just luck. Occasionally you can see a dark green carrie that has lighened a little but still not yellow and that would be a good candidate to pick.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Malika mango
« on: July 29, 2020, 08:52:48 AM »
To me a box of Malika are like a box of chocolates in the Forrest Gump movie..... From one fruit to the other in the box, I never know what it will taste like till it's opened.......

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: covid 19 and herbs ect
« on: July 08, 2020, 09:14:36 AM »
One of the most feared U.S. virus was Poliovirus in the late 40's. https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/history-polio-poliomyelitis        In about 95% of all polio cases, the person has no symptoms at all. These are known as asymptomatic cases. The rest of polio cases can be divided into three types: abortive polio, non-paralytic polio, and paralytic polio.....                   In severe cases of paralytic polio, the throat and chest may be paralyzed. Death may result if the patient does not receive artificial breathing support. Between 2%-5% of children affected with paralytic polio die, whereas for adults, 15%-30% die.               https://www.cdc.gov/polio/what-is-polio/polio-us.html      In the late 1940s, polio outbreaks in the U.S. increased in frequency and size, crippling an average of more than 35,000 people each year.
Polio Elimination in the U.S.

CDC.GOV
Polio Elimination in the U.S.
The U.S. is polio-free, thanks to a successful vaccination program.



I'm very happy the covid 19 virus is not targeting high mortality or high morbidity in young Children as the percentage is much lower on mortality/morbidity today vs. the 40's Poliomyelitis virus epidemics.... I'm sure todays parents/grandparents are also thankful.

Interesting to compare to 2 Virus Epidemics mortality/morbidity/infections as percentage of population....

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: covid 19 and herbs ect
« on: July 04, 2020, 10:59:06 AM »
I think we should close again all restorants and travels ,reinforce the previous hard rules ,because it will be even worse .
If a vaccine will not be available till 2021, I'm more for protecting the elderly & high risk of mortality groups to decrease a rising death count....

I'm tired of the prolonged restrictions and prefer getting on with life and allow others not high at risk of Mortality, the freedom of choice.... Normal freedom of choice should allow this virus to pass through those rapidly..... As long as deaths do not spike is my concern. I am much less concerned with % rise in healthy people being infected with low chance of mortality... This should allow a quicker passing & return to more of a normal.....

Since so so so long for development, there is NO GUARANTEE that when the final death count is taken after a vaccine is developed & administered to those desiring to be vaccinated that there will be less lives lost by attempting preventative measures (we never get 100% vaccination in the U.S. as always some object & will again).... There is only a GUARANTEE that current precautions to all groups will prolong the time for the virus to spread through available non isolated populations (keep at high risk of mortality groups isolated). 

If enough low risk of mortality groups decide to express their freedom of choice & mingle & become innoculated, this group if large enough may slow a second wave in the winter before the vaccine becomes available.

Just IMO.... And no it will not happen.... It will be a slow long long agonizing process. We will slowly see the population become gradually more & more infected.... Eventually it will get probably be close to 90% is my guess and then transmission will probably almost cease with the immunity in the 90% of the population helping to protect the other 10% which were hopefully the high risk of mortality groups including the elderly....



If you were in control on decreasing deaths in your country would it be easier to totally isolate those high at risk of Mortality for 2 months or try try try try try try try try try try try try to isolate them for 12 months while a vaccine is being developed....

The 2 month choice would be with healthy low risk of mortality choice to wear a mask & distance or not and just mingle (while keeping high risk of mortality & elderly totally isolated).....

Just a thought as final death counts could possibly be higher in either choice as unknown.... If medical facilities are available to handle cases & it seems facilities are available for the healthy low risk increasing in cases infected so far in the U.S. as not overwhelming available medical resources with less severe percentages of that population.

It is known that if in control of your country, a 2 month choice would allow less productivity losses.
However, unknown if higher or lower loss of life. The advocates  for shutdown and isolation tend to claim it would save lives but I question that case as long as high risk of mortality groups are kept isolated & medical resources are available & not overwhelmed.... Unknown... & Just a thought...

Then again, unknown if a 2 month would be ample time... Then again, would a 12 month.... Then again, even if a 12  or 14 month is enough time, All will never be vaccinated as many will refuse....

Thus in the end, life & death goes on regardless of choices... Hope for the best... And whatever that is is unknown....

Influenza even with it's vaccine available, does continue & continue & continue to kill thousands yearly.....

Obviously, I'm bored & little to do but type on this July 4 "independence day" Holiday in the U.S......



Why do I think a 2 month let the healthy population low risk of mortality groups mingle would rapidly spread the virus & eventual immunity? 
Watch nature TV, the urge to reproduce is one of the strongest urges that even suppresses the desire to eat or the fear of mortality.... Thus, Mingling will always occur,.... Can't be stopped.... only slowed.... The mature Rams etc. will butt heads to compete for the affection of the females.... Regardless of hunger or fear of death...... As soon as possible...... It's expected, it's life....and it's death.... but it's living free.....

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: covid 19 and herbs ect
« on: July 03, 2020, 11:06:37 AM »
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/poliomyelitis/facts
Just IMO interpretation of the above but read it to get your own view of the data.
Polio virus had a lot of similar characteristics to Covid-19 before the polio vaccine became available. Extremely contagious, asymptomatic to most of the population when infected, but deadly to many in specific segments of the population (the young).

A primary difference was the middle aged & elderly being usually asymptomatic with low death and permanent injury.

The young school children especially under the age of 10 were thought to be almost 100% infected before vaccine with many having mild symptoms and some asymptomatic but the few who were severe had Mortality from muscle paralysis and some survived with permanent muscle paralysis in different body locations.

Hopefully with covid 19 the at risk of MORTALITY groups will be protected until the vaccine becomes available.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too much fruit harms society ?
« on: June 30, 2020, 09:30:33 PM »


I haven't had a glass of my homemade wine in over 3 months... But I'm rapidly getting into a silly mood desirous of more silliness. By the way, I've eaten A LOT Of FRUIT TODAY.... Soooo let's see the Topic... AAAH::: Too much fruit harms society ?.............. Sure It's the Fruit's Fault.... lol.... It's the perfect reply for SeaWalnut....
Fructose from fruits its almost equal with alcohol and it damages the liver same way as alcohol.
If you feed a human or a kid mainly on sweet fruits it will get cirrhosis similar to cirrhosis from alcohol.
Fructose needs to be breaked down by the liver just like alcohol and we can only process 60 grams of fructose a day.

Eating a lot of sweet fruits can be as harmfull as drinking alcohol.
Its just science and if you do a basic google search about fructose ,youl see im right.
Sugar from supermarket bag its more healthy than fructose from fruit but we dont eat fruits especially for the fructose only.
If i fed my bees fructose they have a 9 days lifespan while from eating crystal sugar from a bag they can live up to 2 months.
At least if we grow fruits that in excess can damage the liver same way as alcohol,then alcohol i think its a better option .

The forum its not about trolling fruits but about being aware of the legacy you can leave to your family future generations by planting a lot of fruit trees( orchards).
Ok SeaWalnut, I'm bored so I'll type... Just a little.
Moderation in everything we eat and do is best... Too much of almost anything will harm even kill us. Too much oxygen in too high concentration and we will eventually become blind & die. Ingesting too much water (pure water with no minerals) and we will die if not supplementing lost minerals by also eating etc.
Many many ways to die with excess of many many things.... Your reference to fructose in fruits is another example of excess that most people who are not diabetics will never experience who eat in moderation a balanced diet. Why you chose this excess indulgence... I have no idea except to chat & debate relatively insignificant minute topics....

Here's a simple common view from most which recommends moderation in ingesting fruits & don't worry about liver damage if not over indulging ::: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/is-fruit-good-or-bad-for-your-health

Concerning death: I was born dying and I was born living, eventually death will prevail regardless of trying to eat perfect if such a thing exists. Enjoy the living and don't fear the dying.   ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too much fruit harms society ?
« on: June 30, 2020, 02:24:52 PM »
I love the vitamin D intake when I go outside here in FL. Wearing a t-shirt or not, the sun making vitamin D for us all is something else. And we all know vitamin D is very anti-Covid virus.
A small Readers Digest article this month expounds on the benefits of going outside into the Sunshine for acquiring Vitamin D and perhaps other substances also produced by the skin while in sunlight to help: Lower Blood Pressue increasing nitric oxide levels, lower Heart Disease, lower Stroke and over all Live longer.  Per Dermatologist Richard Weller University of Edinburgh :::Found the same article reprinted on line::: https://www.magzter.com/article/Lifestyle/Readers-Digest-US/Do-We-Really-Need-Sun-Protection

Article says a large study of people only taking Vitamin D without sun exposure failed to show these benefits.

Pretty funny, I believe it says something like if someone comes in with a basal cell carcinoma he usually tells them congratulations this is easy to cut off and the odds are you will live longer since you go into the sunshine often... lol... My dermatologist did not tell me that...lol.  Interesting point of view and I hope Dr. Weller is correct....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too much fruit harms society ?
« on: June 29, 2020, 09:51:18 PM »
I have bottles of wine from 3 years ago when I am invited somewhere I walk with a bottle or two to share. Anybody want to invite me to dinner?
I hear the large tub beginning to boil... Yep, your gonna make one cannibal Very Happy....

Just kidding. But, since you dive, I like to invite people to go with me.... I'm always looking for something fresh for trolling.... Just kidding again... lol...

I haven't had a glass of my homemade wine in over 3 months... But I'm rapidly getting into a silly mood desirous of more silliness. By the way, I've eaten A LOT Of FRUIT TODAY.... Soooo let's see the Topic... AAAH::: Too much fruit harms society ?.............. Sure It's the Fruit's Fault.... lol.... It's the perfect reply for SeaWalnut....

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Which varieties of Mango have a strong spice note?
Madem Francis

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Sounds good PC, thanks for posting.  I'll have to give it a try.  Just curious, did you deep fry them like french fries or pan fry like hash browns?

John
Answer: Pan fry like hash browns...

Really delicious.... Barely covered cut off rag strings in your favorite oil in a pot uncovered cooked until light brown on medium-high heat my stove for about 5 to 7 minutes.... Seriously good....(just imagine eating a raw potato vs. eating the rag raw as the rag is much much better tasting than a raw potato). I used a sharp knife to slice off the rag strings from the rind....

One person on line used flour & soaking etc. etc. etc.... Totally Not needed... Nothing but oil rag & heat and they turned out golden & great.... Of course I added salt when cooked as no B.P. problems... Very very sweet dish & I really liked it better than even cooked sweet onions...

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I've cleaned my (ns1 today) Jackfruit & removed the seeds & rag from the yellow sweet part typically eaten.

Now the rag remains and I decided to try eating it also. The first choice since I like french fries is fried rag in oil for about 8 minutes. Canola oil was used today but vegetable etc. should be fine. Also added my salt....

The result was delicious delicious mildly sweet "french fries".  :P  IMO sweeter & better than "Onion Rings or French Fries"

Sooo, try to eat it all.... or at least the Rag.... lol

Try it, You'll Like It....








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longan keep or cut down?
« on: June 25, 2020, 09:50:44 PM »
if I don't take it down by next year I'll have to hire it out.
Sounds like you don't have a gas chainsaw & it does take a little practice... But electric chainsaws are much easier to start & operate and would easily cut down this tree by what I've heard... Price is cheaper for electric also with many to choose from Big Box Stores or Amazon and not a bad deal as chains by themselves are usually $20 and total electric with chain is only like $54 for many... Ex.https://www.homedepot.com/p/WEN-16-in-12-Amp-Electric-Chainsaw-4017/207041224?mtc=Shopping-B-F_Brand-G-Multi-NA-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-Catchall_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_Brand-G-Multi-NA-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-Catchall_PLA-71700000014585962-58700001236285396-92700010802552445&gclid=CjwKCAjwltH3BRB6EiwAhj0IUNVLubNKLxgvuBm3xaiGAbda186zNMLNd0YIMSPN62AzdA-FzlEyHBoCyP8QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Valencia Pride: Mango Review
« on: June 22, 2020, 08:42:24 PM »
Valencia Pride has produced for me about the past 5 years and it was always so so in my opinion; until today...

This large fruit had gently fallen into high grass and soft sand/dirt where it proceeded to go overripe when I spotted it. I brought it inside and the bottom had become too soft, so I thought. As I cut into it it appeared like jelly seed occurring and I wondered if I should try it... I gently stuck my tongue into the soft jelly and went into pineapple ectasy with a very sweet creamy heavenly mush. The jelly material thinly surrounded the seed with a larger amount at the bottom where I began indulging. the half above the jelly area to the peeling was firm and excellent also but not quite as sweet as the jelly... I loved this mango at this overripe stage and will try to get more to this point. The jelly was sweeter than pineapple juice and creamy and better IMO.

This is one of those cases in which it often takes years and dozens of mangos to be eaten to finally make a true opinion of how well and how you would rank a mango for overall flavor compared to others... I would have never let it go this soft overripe except for luck; and I would have always thought Valencia Pride was a so so semi sweet slight pineapple tasting mango... No longer do I think this... Very good IMO if over ripened vs. other mangos...

I really wish I had waited a little longer for more ripening as I wanted more of the delicious jelly consistency which was primarily at the bottom.

You can also see the jelly going from yellow to orange. A lot of other mangos like PPK, LZ, and Tebow (young) also get sweeter when the mango changes from yellow to orange.

 





Many variables still exist and the tree is older & larger and I have noted other older trees producing much sweeter fruit as they age. But I will still try to over ripen till brown spots start forming on the skin of my Valencia Pride from the tree as I had one earlier that was eaten when just yellow and it was not as sweet.


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One time, I went over to Brads orchard to graft at night in his hoop house and he offered me a beer before the grafting session. You can probably guess where this is going. I made my sacrifice that night but I wasn’t able to continue grafting after I cut my finger. Moral of the story is to drink your beer after you graft and not before, lol!

Simon

At least you were  anesthetized before beginning the procedure... 
It's good to have some duck tape available to be able to close the wound if wanting to continue grafting. Bandaids always fall off my fingers too easily once oozing blood while wanting to continue grafting.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrels
« on: June 03, 2020, 10:28:35 PM »
Good video where Chris at Truly Tropical shows the mangos that she eats but does not sale.

These are the mangos with the fungus issues like anthracnose and going as far as rot. At the end of the video she goes and picks a mango from a tree with a huge hole in it that they calmly proceed to cut away the missing portion and she & her guest sampler proceed to indulge on the remaining portions.

I know we all often wonder what others do with these fruits and it was an enlightening video. Thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOSNOmKn3qc


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watermelon ripeness
« on: June 02, 2020, 09:42:51 PM »
Zands, store fruit seems to be a roll of the dice. 

A few weeks ago they had pristine looking apricots for 2.99$ a pound here.  Which is pretty spendy.  Most stuff is 1-2$ per pound.  They looked so perfect, I took them home and showed the kids.  We tried them and they were pure water.  Brix of 9!

This week we are eating our own homegrown apricots, they dont look as beautiful but they are sweet and full of flavor. 

Moral of the story?  Dont really have one.  Other than store fruit is a gamble.  Yellowish spot is a good sign.  White spot is a no go.
"Moral of the story?"
I like to tell my boys... The prettiest are seldom the sweetest.... 

I actually mentioned it again two days ago to one of my boys... The females wanting some fruit were definitely not sweet... Pretty yes, but not sweet...


 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Biiigggg Hasya sapodilla (picture)
« on: June 01, 2020, 09:06:33 PM »
Is the flavor as good as Alano?
I'm eating a small Alano now. The Alano tree is also smaller currently than my hasya so it may change in taste next year etc.
The Alano fruit is smaller and firmer than the normal hasya. The Alano is also dryer than the Hasya since I guess it has more fiber or thicker stone cells per given area. The skin of the Alano is firmer or thicker. The Alano appears to me to have a little musky taste mixed in with the brown sugar pear type taste of the Alano & hasya. The Hasya however tastes more like pears & brown sugar. On the plus and negative, the Hasya is so soft & watery that it often disintegrates on striking limbs and especially when hitting the ground.

I like them both. The slight musky additional taste of the Alano with its firmness seems stonger vs. the softer larger maybe sweeter Hasya which is very delicate and difficult to salvage once dropped from the tree vs. the Alano which is usually fine if you forget to pick it and it drops to the ground.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to get rid of birds?
« on: May 28, 2020, 03:19:44 PM »
They tried getting rid of all the birds once in China. 


"The "Four Pests" campaign was introduced in 1958 by Mao Zedong, as a hygiene campaign aimed to eradicate the pests [2] According to some eyewitnesses, citizens would bang pots and pans so that sparrows would not have the chance to rest on tree branches and would fall dead from the sky."

Quite the Story....

Now Spaugh::: Do you or anyone really believe that banging pots and pans will never give a bird a chance to land and rest??? (they can fly for at least 20 miles without landing)........Do you or anyone anyone really believe that this would result in them falling dead from the sky???????   lol...   :) :D ;D

I wonder why he did not try to eradicate cockroaches..... I guess he had already tried, lol.... Lowering the numbers present is usually all that can be hoped for with most things considered pests in a given location. Extinction is not an option unless we go also... Then again, I would suspect the cockroach to survive...

So, I will continue to lower the number of what I consider pests on my property as deemed by the owner. Anyone desiring to feed them at their location & property have fun; as to each, their own.... By the way, the topic is "How to get rid of Birds."  (Does not say All Birds) ....  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to get rid of birds?
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:34:37 PM »
Graurii erau carnea de vanat preferata a lui Alexandru Odobescu.
English: 
The starlings were Alexandru Odobescu's favorite game meat
SING A SONG OF SIX PENCE:::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZvMIZwBljk


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to get rid of birds?
« on: May 26, 2020, 09:41:21 PM »
I'm losing my mind trying to stop these damn black birds from pecking little holes in my lemon tree.
Maybe thee blackbirds are similar to crows, which are very intelligent and social. I used to grow quite a bit of sweet corn but far away from most other corn fields so the crows didn't have many corn fields to choose from except mine. Crows learn quickly enough that the just-sprouted sweet corn that emerges from the ground is a great treat, they can spot the light green ines right away and go down the line pulling and eating all day until they see you coming. My solution was to go hunt and shoot a crow somewhere then hang the dead crow up swinging next to the corn field. I usually would do it illegally in a drive-by fashion using a shotgun, but the technique really did work very well. The crows realized the threat and would not come around the other dead crow at all.
I loved the story and would have tried it two weeks ago on the crows taking my lychees. Luckily the crows did not notice the ripe lychee until they were ready to be harvested. I could tell they were smart and would not get close to me. But, they continued to circle back every few minutes and I watched them pick one and then they liked to fly with it in their beak to another destination before eating it. Often, they would drop it before they could pull it off with their beak while flying hovering next to a group of lychee. That was how I first noticed something was eating them and thought it strange that unopened whole lychee were a few feet from the tree on the ground.

I picked my crop the day after noticing the crows, so no problem currently. But, if anyone else has not picked their lychee and are trying to figure out why whole unopened lychee are near the tree on the ground... Suspect birds and especially crows to be the villain.

Thanks for the idea, looking forward to next year to watch the crow dangle in the breeze.... It will be interesting to see if it works... Looking forward to the future test...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to get rid of birds?
« on: May 26, 2020, 07:47:37 PM »
I'm tired of the birds taking my smaller fruit! Anything I can do to get rid of them? Maybe giving them a bird feeder so they don't go after fruit?

Any idea is appreciated!
lol   ........... Feed Them and They Will Come........... lol

I like NewGen's idea again.... Let those meteorites fall from the sky...

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