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I have heard that Glenn & PPK have "short" seasons.  Just how short are they?  If true which one has the longer season. Also which of these two is earlier.  Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: Today at 02:52:32 AM »
the Sugarloaf trees look more productive than Coconut cream. M-4 at a minimum looks a lot more precocious than Coconut cream and in “on” years the original tree’s yields are extremely heavy. It’s a better mango frankly and so is Sugarloaf, which is much more consistent than coconut cream and seems more forgiving about when it is harvested.

I kind of wish the “coconut cream” name had been saved for one of those two rather than C-20.


I had heard Sugarloaf had a pineapple flavor profile & had named after the white pineapple of the same name.  Is that accurate?  From the discussion it sounds like Sugarloaf has either a coconut or pina collada profile.  Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: July 17, 2018, 05:52:45 PM »
So should any dooryarder who was thinking about planting a Coco Cream scratch it off the list for the sake of M-4 instead?

Yes, definitely...or wait for E4 aka Sugarloaf.  Both E4 and M4 are better than Coconut Cream in terms of taste and tree's growth habits.  Coco Cream tend to get overripe quickly and ferment.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: July 17, 2018, 05:13:12 PM »
So should any dooryarder who was thinking about planting a Coco Cream scratch it off the list for the sake of M-4 instead? 

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Hi all, my first time posting.

I live in CT, where access to tropical fruit is very limited.  I saw Cherimoya in the store one time but they were $13/lb (!) and I didn't know what to look for; haven't seen it since.  I've fallen in love with mangos over the last couple of years but have never had any outside of Tommy Atkins (which I can't stand, but I've never had one from a backyard), Kent (which I love), Keitt, and maybe a Haden, but I can't remember.   I've read and heard that Valencia Pride is a great mango and see the Mango Factory grows them.  I would imagine since the vast majority are in Florida that they likely haven't had to go this route, I'd greatly appreciate if anyone has any experience with this grower.  I assume since it is listed that it's been vouched for, but a little backup never hurt!   I was also wondering, though I don't know if this is the right thread for it, if I would be able to buy any mangoes from other members when it's the season.   I haven't been down to Florida in years and it's unlikely I'll be able to make a trip this year with my work schedule, so being able to experience a variety of mangoes would be awesome!  Any help would be highly appreciated.


Over 260 varieties.  Better selection than anyone.  Sound like you've only had "commercial varieties".  You're missing out on a lot. 

https://tropicalacresfarms.com/our-mangos

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Besides Tropical Acres what other places can you recommend that SHIPS mangos.  Especially for the newer Zill varieties.  Mangomen in Homestead are done till next year.  Thanks.

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I've had red Papaya at ECHO in Ft. Myers.  Not sure if there is more than one variety of red, it looked beautiful & wanted to like it but it had the vomit taste. 

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Papaya's should be arrested for false advertising.  They look tropical and delicious.  Logic says they should rate with mangoes for flavor, but I have yet to taste a papaya that didn't make want to gag.  Are there any varieties of Papaya that would change my mind?  Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: July 13, 2018, 06:32:14 PM »
Angie is every bit just as much a top tier mango as Diamond is............/sarc 

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A Carrie picked "mature green" with little to no color allowed to ripen on the counter for a few days are best.  When eaten this way they are not "mushy", have a pleasant tartness for balance and no turpentine undertone.

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Carrie and Angie are in my bottom 5, and you can add Ugly Betty to that pile.

Love the Ugly Betty, Angie and Carrie. I will take them any day compared to some other varieties such as Glenn, Rosigold, Cogshall and NDM #4. Better than Mahachanok as well, at least for my taste buds.

I agree, the others you mentioned are in the bottom pile.  Lol

My how tastes vary from person to person...

Truly Tropical grows and sells over 80 varieties of mangoes.  Carrie is their absolute #1 FAVORITE BEST SELLER!!  Most hard core mango lovers think Carrie is a superb mango - the facts speak for themselves.

I am very familiar with Truly Tropical and know Chris very well.  I dont choose mangoes based on sales.  I go by taste.  I am alsi very familiar with the Carrie and you will never see me eating one.  To me, they are horrible.  Please don't try to preach to me about how good it is and any mango lover would make it their favorite.  You will not even make me think of eating one or changing my mind.

Not trying to change your mind, trying to make you realize that the vast majority of people 90%?? think Carrie is an excellent mango. Telling people that Carrie is a bad tasting mango isn't accurate.  It's especially bad because your opinion and knowledge on most other things is spot on and well respected.  People are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

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Carrie and Angie are in my bottom 5, and you can add Ugly Betty to that pile.

Love the Ugly Betty, Angie and Carrie. I will take them any day compared to some other varieties such as Glenn, Rosigold, Cogshall and NDM #4. Better than Mahachanok as well, at least for my taste buds.

I agree, the others you mentioned are in the bottom pile.  Lol

My how tastes vary from person to person...

Truly Tropical grows and sells over 80 varieties of mangoes.  Carrie is their absolute #1 FAVORITE BEST SELLER!!  Most hard core mango lovers think Carrie is a superb mango - the facts speak for themselves. 


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Is it true that Carrie and Angie are very similar in flavor?  If so, which one is superior and has less issues?  And if you consider them not similar, how are they different, and which one do you prefer?


Carrie is awesome & the #1 selling Mango at Truly Tropical.  Angie is total crap.  Watch the Sulcata video on Angie.  They think it sucks also.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: July 12, 2018, 12:38:58 PM »
Surprised to see Carrie in your top 5 but not Angie. They are similar in terms of flavor profile, with Angie being more firm.



Angie is a good mango as a dwarf tree but in my garden I don’t put it my Top 5 . Dot, Lemon zest, Coco cream, Carrie, Sweet tart. All of them have very strong sweetness and complex flavor.

Carrie is great.....Angie tastes like A$$

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: July 12, 2018, 12:30:58 PM »
It tastes like funky cooked carrots.  It's a spitter.  Has no business being a recommended variety.  Comparing it to a Carrie isn't accurate.

Sulcata Groves Angie Review - I totally agree.

https://youtu.be/9tdO4KcH63M

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Coconut palms in Sarasota, FL
« on: July 11, 2018, 03:48:47 PM »
Coastal Sarasota is a micro Zone 10.  Coco palms can grow as far north as St. Pete Beach though they often get beat up after a hard freeze.  Normal northern boundary on the West Coast is around Ft. Myers.  You aren't likely to see coco palms very far inland in the Sarasota area.

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I know turpentine is probably the most common mango rootstock in Florida, but are there others that are as good or better like Sabre?  My neighbor has a Sabre mango tree that produces hundreds of mangos that just rot on the ground.  Is Sabre as good as turpentine for rootstock?

Yes before you ask they taste bad.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Harvest Moon mango questions
« on: July 08, 2018, 06:07:21 PM »
Nam Doc Mai.....#1 a Worlds most over rated Mango.....I'd rather eat a Tommy Atkins.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to pick Mallika mango?
« on: July 07, 2018, 10:14:20 PM »
Is the problem with Mallika primarily inconsistency with the variety or human error?  If you pick Mallika a couple 2-3 weeks early & ripen them in the recommended fashion will most taste as they should? I wonder if a lot of the people who have had bad luck with Mallika are picking them green enough.  I doubt if most people are actually picking them 2-3 weeks early as recommended. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ideas on variety
« on: July 07, 2018, 09:58:40 PM »
How do they taste?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to pick Mallika mango?
« on: July 07, 2018, 09:51:44 PM »
I find it hard to believe that Mallika can't just be picked "ripe green" and ripened on the kitchen counter like a lot of other varieties.  I can see where newspaper or dromedary dung might ripen them faster, but is it really essential for proper ripening? The Mallika's I got from  Alex last year were 9+, but it's not a Mango for wimps.  It's a strong flavored mango lovers mango.  Like a Carrie on steroids.   
 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulgova Mango
« on: July 07, 2018, 09:44:10 PM »
1. Is Rajapuri the really best Mango in India & does anyone in Florida grow them?

2.  Can you grow Rajapuri in Florida & do they taste the same.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango ID help
« on: July 07, 2018, 07:34:06 PM »
Looks like turpentine. Are they mostly yellow?


Not turpentine - no strings, just very firm & flavorless.  As a matter of coincidence I just saw this on "Sabre" another root stock mango and the appearance & description are identical.  Hat tip & thanks to Craig at Sulcata Groves who just video profiled Sabre which was my first clue.  I had never heard of Sabre before and if you watch Craig's video you'll understand why.   As far as I'm concerned mystery solved.  It's very prolific & maybe it's a good rootstock so maybe it's unfair to judge it for flavor or eating qualities since it's not intended to be an eating mango. 

Sabre "Worst Mango Ever??"


https://youtu.be/fAuZ9eJTJ0s




https://www.mango.co.za/cultivars/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango ID help
« on: July 07, 2018, 06:19:04 PM »
My elderly neighbor has an old badly damaged ugly mango tree absolutely covered with hundreds of these small 4-6 ounce mangoes. The flavor profile is basically mild/bland one note Asian.  No significant fiber but very firm even after they drop from the tree.  I have been trying to ID this mango for awhile.
Closest match I can find is a Sabre mango. Any educated guesses? 



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Hey Alex

So what are the options now if you want LATE varieties that that aren't MBBS susceptible?

Both Chris & Alex are saying it's a big problem for Kent & other mangoes with Brooks genes.  Was wondering if planting a dooryard Kent tree on the WEST coast is just asking for problems.  I had a spot reserved for a couple of late varieties.  Keitt was going to be one & Kent possibly the other.  Now I'm thinking I'd be better off replacing Kent with Beverly.   Input & suggestions welcome.


Truly Tropical top working Kents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzPWx0YxgMY&t=124s

Beverly gets it too.

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