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I always use my fingers and massage the roots on 5gal avocados when transplanting.  Just rough them up a bit and loosen them and break them a little.  If the tree was good size and root bound, you can hold the tree trunk up in one hand and tap down on the pot with the other and the pot will fall right off.  Then massage and plop in place.  Avocados are pretty tough plants, they dont need to be babied really.  You can let the containers get pretty dry before rewatering.

Did you try spinosad? 

Maybe I just need to try better ones.  Have only had 3 or 4 types.  The ones at the farmers market are usually over ripe and banged up.  My friend has a massive tree but the fruit is mediocre even picked just at the right time.  So far have not been wowed at all with them.  I have a chestnut seedling about 6ft tall in the ground.  I was hesitant to even plant this tree for fear it will attract rodents/birds and other unwanted pests once its producing and dropping fruits on the ground.

Unfotunately they dont ship well.  They bruise and get over ripe really easy.  If I see some at the farmers market that are on the hard side I could send some but will probably not make the trip.

To be honest the taste is not that great IMO.  Its kind of like a sweet avocado.  Like pear/avocado.  It takes a little practice then they are OK eating but certai ly not something I would do 3 trees of for personal consumption.  They are prolific also so 1 tree goes a long way.  They can drop a lot of fruit since they produce so much you cant eat it all.  It can become a messy tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee time
« on: May 16, 2018, 12:52:30 AM »
Its serious lychee time here at my place, 1 out of 3 trees on the property. Pretty hard to reach some of these, the tree was improperly pruned a number of years ago ... but it still seems happy

1st year for a good harvest. I believe this was a brewster planted some years ago.

I enjoyed some earlier today & decided to pick a few more and eat now...  There are probably 30 more on the small tree for later.

These were very sweet & tart combo & so fun to eat with the clear plump juicy flesh surrounded by the egg shell thin shell.

Sorry, didn't have time to stop and take a picture till they were all gone.... :P

Awesome.  What do you do with it all?

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Bird tape?
« on: May 15, 2018, 12:50:17 AM »
No issues with rotting the bags are very breathable.  Every peach comes out big and perfect.  I wouldnt recommend them otherwise.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Green gold avocado tree
« on: May 14, 2018, 06:01:29 PM »
That bad huh?  Do you have a pic of the tree?  I already got a 15gal tree, just wondering where to put it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Green gold avocado tree
« on: May 14, 2018, 01:22:37 PM »
You can also look at the 'varieties' page. I can't find an email or phone number for them but Epicenter seems like folks you might want to talk to.

Haha, everyone wants to talk to them but they don't want to talk (or sell trees).  I already got a tree, just trying to decide where to put it.  I am trying to not put large spreading trees right next to one another.  The info says medium upright growth

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Green gold avocado tree
« on: May 14, 2018, 12:06:13 PM »
Awesome website.  Thank you Jack. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Green gold avocado tree
« on: May 14, 2018, 10:42:17 AM »
Does anyone have a mature green gold avo tree?  Need input on size, shape, vigor of this type.  Big tree?  Column or spreading?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rainbow Eucalyptus
« on: May 14, 2018, 12:22:43 AM »
There's a lot of invasive eucalyptus around here on many of the neighbors properties but not really on the houses up on the hilltop. The houses below us in the canyon have them everywhere.  They can't get in the water table up here so they don't really get out of control.  I realize they are an invasive tree but some of them are quite stately.  I will try and photo a few of the really nice plating in poway.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: May 13, 2018, 07:55:38 PM »
I understand Carlos’ and others frustration and disappointment.

My first introduction and taste of Dragon Fruit was at a Farmer’s Market while on vacation with family on the island of Hawaii. At that moment I decided I wanted to try and grow Dragon Fruit at home in Southern California.

I acquired my first named Dragon Fruit cuttings at the UC Pitahaya Festival in Irvine, CA.
At the festival I got to taste many different varieties.
On that day, my favorites were Delight and Halley’s Comet.
Unlike most people who collect several varieties, I decided I was only going to grow the two varieties I like best.
When it came time to selecting the 5 free cuttings, unlike most people who selected 5 different cuttings, I chose to get only 5 Halley’s Comet.
The next year I went back and got 5 Delight cuttings.

Over the next few years I suffered frustration and disappointment from flower drop and no fruit. I also got a better understanding of “self fertile”, self-pollinating, hand pollinating, etc. I learned that growers who had several unrelated varieties producing flowers at or near the same time were not experiencing the frustration and disappointment I was having.

Once I got to the point of having enough unrelated flowering varieties, my luck on harvesting Dragon Fruit changed.

Do you still need to do hand pollination or have you found ones, or combos, that are able to fruit without your help?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rainbow Eucalyptus
« on: May 13, 2018, 07:53:07 PM »
I got a refund on the ebay tree and found a nursery with healthy looking trees for cheaper. 

Don't plant eucalyptus?  Why? 

I tried putting the RO on a banana and it rotted and blew over in the wind.  It is possible to over water a banana apparently.  And they don't like salt apparently. 

Sour diesel, yeah maybe something like that.  Surely not too late.   8)  Stays hot for a long time here.  Since we a closer to the equator days are shorter here also.  Makes things happen earlier than up north.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rainbow Eucalyptus
« on: May 13, 2018, 12:33:52 AM »
I got my rainbow eucalyptus tree in the mail today.  Wow, what a sorry looking tree.  Haha, that was 50$ not well spent.  I up potted it from dixie cup size to tall 3gal pot and put it in the hot house.  Hoping it will be happier.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cal bunnies
« on: May 12, 2018, 11:07:19 PM »
What are they eating?  What part of SD is it?

Jackrabbit population is getting stronger here and they are really hard on tree trunks.  Cotton tails usually only eat vegetables or really small stuff.  They even eat my cactus!  Fence is the best solution.

Here's a picture of the native DG soil here.  Its maybe not what people have in mind when you hear decomposed granite.  It's more of a sandy composition but it does retain moisture at the levels avocado prefer.  This is prefer soil type for avocado groves around here.  I use 100% DG in pots for propogating avocado and everything in my yard is in DG top dressed with mulch.  Amending is really not necessary, avocados love this kind of soil.

4x4x1 should be ok for a avocado tree.  If you have 8ft lumbers do that.  If you have 10 ft lumber go for 5x5x1. 

Use a heavy soil like decomposed granite if you can get it.  Or a sandy loam.  Don't use bags of compost or potting soil from the store, there's too much organic matter in it that will hold excessive moisture and rot your roots.

in my raised beds i use about %25 sand (when i can), %25 compost, and the rest local soil
(which is a very fine sandy loam)
it works great. the compost dries fast enough

That sounds perfect

4x4x1 should be ok for a avocado tree.  If you have 8ft lumbers do that.  If you have 10 ft lumber go for 5x5x1. 

Use a heavy soil like decomposed granite if you can get it.  Or a sandy loam.  Don't use bags of compost or potting soil from the store, there's too much organic matter in it that will hold excessive moisture and rot your roots.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: May 12, 2018, 09:51:23 AM »
Nice Rob.  Love the walkway you created. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tamarind in CA?
« on: May 11, 2018, 07:18:20 PM »
Anyone have tamarind growing in CA?  Getting any fruit off it?  I have a seedling started.  Not sure if it's worth putting in the ground?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: May 11, 2018, 06:59:01 PM »
Rob, could you post a photo zoomed out of your support structure? 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rainbow Eucalyptus
« on: May 10, 2018, 11:27:44 PM »
Anyone growing it in CA?  I have a lot of extra RO waste water I'm looking to water something with.  Will it grow here?  Maybe the air is too dry?  Other eucalyptus does quite well (invasive). 

Any other suggestions what I can grow with really hard waste water?

I have one, it's in SWFL of course.  If it helps, I have found it to be pretty drought tolerant.  My tree has been in the ground for about 2 years and is at least 12 feet tall.  I haven't watered it at all this year and we are in a severe drought.  It is stressed, but not terribly so.  By next year I hope it has enough roots to thrive in a drought, I don't know if it has a deep tap root, but if it does, it will eventually hit the water table here.  It's only about 8' or so deep.

Nice, it's probably already in the water table if it's 8ft.  Our water table is 600ft deep here!

I have water to pump on it that is already bein wasted.  I just don't know if it can take the Santa Ana winds.  I read they like humidity which we really have none of.

Well it's a pretty fast growing tree for sure, that's why I moved it once I read how big they can get.

As far as winds - mine managed to survive hurricane Irma, and my home had the center of the eye go right over top of it.  So it took 100 mph + winds for some time, but it is shielded to some degree by large mature pines.

I would add (not that this really applies to you) that it was also under water for about 2 weeks in the Irma flood.  So, it is both flood and drought tolerant and grows really fast.  I do like the tree, the bark should start getting more colorful with age, at least that's what I heard.

Sounds excellent.  I also collected some eucalyptus citriodora (lemon scented gum) seeds from last fall and have them chilling in the fridge over winter.  Going to try and germinate some of those now.  Not sure if you guys have those in FL but its a pretty nice looking very tall eucalyptus with nice white smooth trunk and smells really nice like lemons.  I also dug up some baby eucalyptus globulus (blue gum) trees last fall from a canyon near my moms house.  Have those ones in pots and need to plant them.   Those ones are super monster size trees.

I use the medium or large flat rate boxes and put the cuttings in smaller boxes inside those boxes.  I try and put cuttings that are the length of the box.  12-18 inches.  If I put them in without wrapping in extra layer of cardboard the spikes poke through the box.  Some tyes are worse than others.  I try and send the fattest cuttings with most girth and age.  They do not fit in a small box and if they did, the postal workers would be getting stabbed.  Maybe Simons plants were poking through.  You should let him know if that was recently behl.  I can send them for you if you still need some.  I see Simon occasionally and work on plant stuff with him.  One of us can resend.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rainbow Eucalyptus
« on: May 10, 2018, 03:44:25 PM »
Dude I can't believe you haven't seen the ones at the San Diego Zoo. They have a bunch of them in front of the main entrance (just outside the entrance) as well as one or two within the zoo. They are fully mature and are pretty colorful right now. I have read that they get more colorful in tropical climates, here they're a bit more subdued but still interesting if you know to look for them. It's not really eye-catching though.

Dude I must be blind.  I will have have to go again and pay more attention.  They do have some great plants. 

So I found a tree on ebay.  I know I know...  It was 50$ shipped.  We shall see how it goes.  I figure they can't really send me a fake one of these, it should be obvious I hope.  It's coming from FL.  Then I found starfruit seedlings...  I should really stay off the internet...

The DF cuttings I send definitely won't fit in small flat rate boxes. 

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