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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brutal heatwave 7/06/18 in Socal
« on: July 19, 2018, 11:26:59 PM »
Nice plants.  Impressive especially for the desert.  Are you growing watermelons?  I got some desert king watermelons growing.  They are really good and will take the desert heat no problem.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 17, 2018, 02:13:34 PM »
I put most of these grafts in the bathroom in my garage with AC set to 80 and grow lamp on 25%.  Since they are long distance scions I think this will be best for them.  In a couple weeks if the buds start to push I will move outside to acclimate.



This is a sharwil I did 2 weeks ago with scions off my own tree.  Buds are already popping.  This one is in 90F greenhouse 50% shade, and 60% humidity.  I have really good luck using my own scions.  They usually pop in 2 to 3 weeks and those are the trees that gain vigor and take.  If they take more than 4 weeks to pop they seem to stall and never take off and eventually die.



Brad, I've grown under grow lights and just a thought, not sure what lamps you're using but those lamps sure look far away from your pots.  One of the best tools I have is an old analog G.E. light meter that registers up to 10K foot candles.  No, it doesn't measure PAR but it's still a valuable tool, a guide.  I'd be giving those faves about 5,000 f.c.   Keep in mind Hawaii is around 22 latitude.  For long day/short night plants I kept the timer on a 20/4 on/off cycle to induce vegetative growth.  Citrus is photoperiod dependent, not sure about avocado.

FWIW, summer noon sun is 10k - 10,500 f.c., cloudless day, 27 latitude.

Good luck on the grafts.  I must have 6 Sharwil that are shooting the moon, one on a Gwen tree.

Those are 4 x 50w of very efficient COB LEDs.  Its like 400w of MH or HPS.  Ive got the photo period synched to outside so I can move them freely in and out.  I wouldnt normally be putting avocados indoors.  Just taking some stress off them while the grafts heal.  So they are getting a mild stimulus from the lamp and low temps inside.  I have been dropping the lamp and turning up the current slowly.  They will get blasted with light and heat as soon as they start flushing.  Hopefully that happens.

I have been working with Simon a lot on various projects and one of the things I have learned from him is using grow lamps for grafting or rooting works really well.  So we will see how these go.  Will keep you posted.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 16, 2018, 06:19:09 PM »
Rob, you were right, I lost some small buds.  Luckily most of my flowers were already well formed.  Inly lost a handfull. 

The stuff in my greenhouse is looking really happy.  It was spared in the heatwave.  Cosmic charlie is blooming.  Hopefully the others start blooming too.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 14, 2018, 05:19:15 PM »
Just to report my experiment on grafting young Giant Megalanthus seedlings onto other, more mature DF plants.

I used the same method that several forum member used. The only difference is that I used seedlings that are really small, less than 1in tall. I was trying to find out if grafting such young seedlings is a good way to speed up growth.

I did this on 3/22:









Started pushing after about 2 months - pics on 5/24







Size today. The grafted seedlings are now bigger that the seedlings that are left growing in pots (last pic)









Cool.  It looks like the peruvian strain right?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 14, 2018, 05:09:22 PM »
I put most of these grafts in the bathroom in my garage with AC set to 80 and grow lamp on 25%.  Since they are long distance scions I think this will be best for them.  In a couple weeks if the buds start to push I will move outside to acclimate.



This is a sharwil I did 2 weeks ago with scions off my own tree.  Buds are already popping.  This one is in 90F greenhouse 50% shade, and 60% humidity.  I have really good luck using my own scions.  They usually pop in 2 to 3 weeks and those are the trees that gain vigor and take.  If they take more than 4 weeks to pop they seem to stall and never take off and eventually die.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 14, 2018, 04:02:09 PM »
Shane how far from the ocean are you?  Whats the temps over your way?  Its around 88 here today.  Not too bad.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Today's harvest
« on: July 14, 2018, 01:18:19 PM »
Nice fruit Lory

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 13, 2018, 09:05:19 PM »
Brandon, I will send you pollen from san diego but I dont think it would still be viable a day or 2 later.  But maybe.  If you figure that out I can put in an envelope and send.

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Do you not care for Hawaiian papaya?  They dont have the barf taste.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 13, 2018, 05:01:24 PM »
Wow, thats really interesting that you dont get blooms yet.  Your trees are 4 or 5 months behind whats happening here.  I start getting blooms in Octomber/November that last until around April or May.  January is full bloom time.  A friend was telling me that carpentaria area is ideal for avocado farming.  I dont know how much further north you are from there but I think your climate is better suited for it than here. 

Yes its way hotter here (bordering too hot).  Especially where I am is worse than the agricultural areas like fallbrook and vista because no one else is farming out here.  Its just lots of open space and dry native vegetation where I live.  Our place backs up to a nature preserve and a military bases.  My hass are black and falling off the tree ripe now.  They are amazing but done for the season.  Even my lamb hass is black and starting to drop. 

I think the best time to graft here is after blooms are finishing around April and the scion wood is flushing.  But I am still trying to get the grafting thing dialed in.   

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 13, 2018, 03:50:13 PM »
Jack just dropping in to drop knowledge on the new heads like always. Thanks Jack!

Brad,
I'd think same reason as the commercial nursery's that graft in March. It's not blazing, fry your scion hot.
I would stick them inside in the 80 degree temps , actually I'd hedge and put some in full shade in the greenhouse or under a mature avocado tree.

Why would you use rubber bands and clothespins to hold your scion to rootstock instead of green or clear plant tie tape??
neither would hold the scion as tight to the rootstock for a tight cambium match.

I agree with hedging bets, some are under banana trees in 80% shade outside.  Its 90 today.  And pulling half in the garage under some cree leds on low in an air conditioner set to 80.  Yes I have power to blow we have a big solar system that makes more than we use.

Green tree tape works well but the clothes pins are easier when it comes times to remove.  I put 2 or 3 on each graft and squeeze tight.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 13, 2018, 10:23:27 AM »
Im surprised you guys had your buds fall off.  Not a single one fell off here on many different DF plants.  It was 119 and my plants are sitting in full sun.  I water lightly just every week or 2 so they may be well adapted to desert conditions and were not shocked by the recent heatwave.

The plants that lost buds for you guys, are they in ground or in containers? 


Well, those small buds turning red between the mature flowers in that picture are toast, unfortunately. The smaller and younger they are, the less likely they are to be able to withstand the heat.

Hmmm,  I dont know they all start red like that.  Theres around 25 or 30 on the plant but none are falling off.  Its been a week now.  Doesnt look like they are going anywhere.

Hopefully my plants are just acclimated to the heat because its pretty much always hot and dry here. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 13, 2018, 10:18:31 AM »
January ?  Trees are blooming and not flushing Jack.  Im surprised you suggest winter.  Whats the reasoning?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 13, 2018, 12:31:17 AM »
I feel sorry for the guy that had to do all these.  :o




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 13, 2018, 12:27:27 AM »
Thanks guys.  One thing I noticed is the longer the scions are in the mail the worse my success rate.  If scions come off my own trees or other trees in SD and graft same day I get good luck.  If they come from LA, I get ok luck.  If they come from Hawaii I get poor luck.  These scions looked decent but were already discoloring after 3 days in the mail from HI.  I had about a dozen good scion/rootstock matches and grafted those tonight.  We will see how it goes...

Im using clothes pins instead of rubber bands.  Hopefully its just as good.  Seems to work well. 

Would like to get these few new cultivars and then I am done with new cados. 


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado grafting
« on: July 12, 2018, 04:13:08 PM »
I got some hard to get scions from a member here.  Thanks for those.  Ive got 20 or so seedlings Im going to graft tonight.  I am a novice at this and dont want to screw it up.  I usually get 1/3 to 1/2 takes.  Would like to ensure success of at least one of each of the 5 cultivars I got scions of.  So I have a few questions for the experts. 

1.) Best gfraft type for seedlings?  Cleft or?  Scions are pencil size.

2.) Leave some leaf sets below the graft or leave none?

3.) Best place to put the trees after grafting?  Greenhouse with 50% shade and 90F temps.  Outside in the shade also around 90+F.  Or in the garage which stays in the 70s and 80s and I have a dimmable grow lamp I can put on them.  Since its mid summer Im not sure where the best place to set them after grafting.

Any other advice?  I really want to get at least 1 of each type to take so I can get trees growing here. 

Thanks

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 11, 2018, 11:31:46 PM »
Im surprised you guys had your buds fall off.  Not a single one fell off here on many different DF plants.  It was 119 and my plants are sitting in full sun.  I water lightly just every week or 2 so they may be well adapted to desert conditions and were not shocked by the recent heatwave.

The plants that lost buds for you guys, are they in ground or in containers? 


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brutal heatwave 7/06/18 in Socal
« on: July 08, 2018, 10:31:21 PM »
Water and shade. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Kratom
« on: July 08, 2018, 03:32:47 PM »
Just an update, it looks like 4 of the 7 cuttings have rooted.  They will still need a couple weeks to let the roots fill out and gain some strength.

Im going to make more cuttings also but will have some ready to ship towards the end of this month and more next month. 

I have several strains, and will start taking cuttings from all of them.

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Do you have more types?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brutal heatwave 7/06/18 in Socal
« on: July 07, 2018, 09:01:42 PM »
First it was a fire breaking out.  Ok, this one is 10 or more miles away.  No big deal.



Then things started to get a little more real when this one flared up just a mile or 2 away.  I think this one was out on miramars land.  Luckily it moved the opposite direction and got put out.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brutal heatwave 7/06/18 in Socal
« on: July 07, 2018, 01:11:22 PM »
Brutal it is.  I was expecting 110, it was 119 max and 114 all day.  My trees were getting roasted.  Moved what I could into the misted greenhouse which stayed in the 90s.


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Its good you have done the calculations and used your meter to figure that all out.  I know Greg and he is not the type of person to waste a resource like water.  He has a lot of trees and tries to minimize his watering and fertilizer to bare minimum while still producing good fruit. 

Growing avocados for your family is not a waste of water.  Growing a lawn is a waste of water.

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Hi Brad, where did you buy the mango? We’re they good? Tnx

Yeah my favorite store mangos are the champaigne ataulfos.  They are extra sweet right now.  Lucky seafood has cases for 17$ in mira mesa.

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Im curious what people are paying for water.  Even at several hundred gallons a month per tree the cost of water should be way cheaper than buying avocados at the store.  A 4 or 5 year old tree grown in optimal conditions could be making 50 to 100lbs of fruit. 

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