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You dont like hass avocados?  :o

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Stolen container trees
« on: May 19, 2019, 03:43:30 PM »
He needs a hidden trail camera. 

Spaugh, thanks for the link to the rootstock/size explanation.  It was excellent, and very clearly explained.  It should be very helpful to our members.

Greg has new articles every week.  He sends an email notification every friday with a link to the articles if anyobe wants to subscribe on his site.

I'll have to try out some C35. Let me see if I can find some seed or seedlings. I'm growing lemons from seed right now to use as rootstock for my lemons. I know Eureka for one doesn't do well on trifoliata rootstock.

I only have 1 lemon tree.  Its on C35 and it is growing awesome.  Its all fun and games for the first 3 or 4 years then the trees start getting out of hand. 

Durling uses C35 on their standard trees.

Check this website out Barath.  This is a fellow member GregA's website.  He says la verne uses C35 on everything.

Trees on "standard" rootstock (la verne, durling nursery) are very vigorous here.  Just be careful what you wish for you could end up with a 20ft tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: May 19, 2019, 11:19:50 AM »
My tree

Thats a perfect looking tree. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: May 18, 2019, 09:49:13 PM »
Does anyone in southern CA have a mexicola tree that produces good crops?  Anyone in southern CA love or hate their mexicola tree?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: May 18, 2019, 02:34:10 PM »
You can shake the tree and make it drop a lot of fruit but its still too much to thin by hand at pea size.  Look how many fruit there are.  Thats just a tiny branch.  Easier to just wait a couple months and let the tree do its own thinning and then decide if it needs more.  By the time they are golf balls, the tree will have already shed 99% of the fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: May 18, 2019, 01:15:25 PM »
I just let it drop what it wants then come in mid to late summer and remove more when they are like golf ball size.  At that point the tree has already ditched the losers.  Right now when they are pea sized, I might go shake the tree a little and speed things up and knock half of them off.  What I dont want is the tree to put a ton of energy into fruit thats not going to be there for the long haul.   

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making my cherimoya flower!
« on: May 18, 2019, 12:37:36 PM »
Do you get any chill hours?  I think cherimoyas need some minor chill time maybe 100+ hrs

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: May 18, 2019, 12:26:42 PM »
Once the tree sets fruit it will slow way down. 

My reeds set pretty much every flower.  They drop most but still hold 2-3X more than they can.  I go in around July or august and do some thinning. When they are young they will drop the fruits early(this time next year) if you dont thin down to the proper fruit load.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: May 17, 2019, 10:00:28 PM »
Why would you remove leaves on a leader?  Just cut it off if you dont want it.  Removing leaves on avocado is going to leave the bark exposed and burnt. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: May 17, 2019, 06:52:13 PM »
Topping screws up reeds shape.  Just let it grow up thats how it wants to grow.  Otherwise it branches at the very top and you get a screwed up shape tree.  I have 6 reeds and a couple of them are screwed up because I topped them or they started screwed up from the nursery.  You want 1 central leader.  I saw a high desity planting where they put a 10ft T post in the ground and train each tree up that never topping.

Its not hot enough yet

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: My 160-n-1 tree this season
« on: May 15, 2019, 04:04:11 PM »
We should call you JoeUnreal, that tree is unreal sir!  You going for a world record?  Do you have name tags on each graft?

i will likely do some plantings on mounds but will also try some plantings at grade in amendended soil with sand, gravel and pumice,not on valley floor but in foothills, i would think zutano rootstock would be cold harty enough though i would try some duke seeds also if i can locate some in the fall,  the grafts and trees boths will be protected if any projected hard freeze comes.i would even try some lula seeds or walden seeds but find it hard to find any and i only know of 1 lula tree planted in cal and its too young to produce any fruit yet. Its unlikey i will have any salt issues but i hear clonal rootstock can also affect growth rate of trees and can have a direct influence on amount of fruit production.

You should try and locate duke or zutano scions now and get your trees started and use those for seed stock in the future.  Thats one thing I regret is not planting a zutano tree years ago.

I actually just had to move them due to a home renovation but they are within a few feet of their normal spots. Both trees look a bit rough since they are flushing and beginning to flower. I had a hundred plus fruits on them last year.

They look nice to me.  How far are you from the ocean?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Air pruning pots--opinions?
« on: May 14, 2019, 06:55:39 PM »
Seems like it would be difficult to get plants out of an air pot with all the bumps and verticle walls.  You take a tree in a regular pot and turn it over and tap the pot and it slips right off.  I like to turn my plants over and slip the pot off sometimes to look at the root system and see if its time to up pot or plant out. 


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Fujikawa, Kahaluu avocado scions
« on: May 14, 2019, 11:32:22 AM »
I just have a couple good pieces of each of these.  25$ shipped for 2 pieces of each.  Add 3$ if you want them shipped in a small flat rate box. 

I hve the common CA avo scions as well if you want to add any to the order.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: May 13, 2019, 09:52:38 PM »
The little trees were seedlings that I grafted last year in pots and planted in the orchard.  The pictues with green name tags are different scions that were all grafted onto a small hass tree already growing in the orchard.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: May 13, 2019, 08:17:01 PM »
The scions are small branch tips taken off the donor tree. They are stripped of their leaves and wrapped in grafting tape and then grafted onto a rootstock. Then the buds grow and break through the tape usually a few weeks/months after grafting.  Hopefully that answered the question, I wasnt sure exactly what you are asking. 

Nothing special as far as watering goes.  If they are in pots and you chop them down to a nub and graft it then they don't use any water if theres no leaves so you can just water less in that case. 

Not sure if you will see this post but your inca red scions made some flowers.  I would think your tree should also be flowering this year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: May 13, 2019, 03:57:43 PM »
Heres more pics of the grafted trees.  Everything is coming along nicely.  After doing a lot of avocado grafts Im going to say my best results are with 80F weather and grafted scions put in full sun right away as long as its not much over 80.  The heat and sun on the wood seems to make it flush out faster.  I think thats important if you are grafting small rootstocks and there are little or no supporting leaves left after grafting.  Probably less critical for larger trees.  Im still doing more avocado grafting now in May and it seems fine with the may gray we get in so cal this time of year. 

The small trees are now at the stage where they need corrective shaping and pruning.  You can see the tree tape pulling several of them to correct the leaning.  They sometimes have a bad trunk shape where the graft grows sideways.  Ideally the trunks would be straight and no branching until at least 1 foot above grade.  I am straightening and removing all branches below 1ft.  I like avocado trees with a good central leader at the bottom of the tree.

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