Hosui

I live in a bee desert. I haven't seen one in a L-O-N-G time near my house.

Thats not a good sign

Buy and plant out young tree’s after winter.
Four winds tree’s have had weak rootstock in my opinion.
Start Bacon or Zutano for rootstock and then graft them. They could grow faster and workout better in the long run. All the scion and cultivars you want can be found here.
Winters a comin. Enjoy!

Yeah I got a couple mail order trees and the roots were all rotted already in the pots.  They use a very light media in the pots to keep shipping costs down and it has to be watered daily.  And the trees look like they were all crammed together and getting labky and weak from not enough sunlight and leaning on each other. 

You are right about seeds being better.  Its hard to convince people thats the better option.  People tend to want instant gratification.  Thats just not usually how gardening goes. 

20 reeds is a ton for a tree that size. 

Those stewarts should be about as cold tolerant as you are going to get.  If you want some really vigorous and still cold tolerant seeds I will have bacon and fuertes coming soon.  The bacon seeds are really vigorous, its a avocado weed tree.  Makes a good rootstock. 

Once you get growing, I would suggest getting some heavy row cover, the type that gives you 5 degrees of warmth and draping it over your trees on cold days/nights until your trees get big.  Just give them a couple years to get established before subjecting them to really hard frosts. 

Brad

Namwahs are good.  You got enough to start a farm there.  Those things multiply pretty quickly. 

I would up pot them to 1 gallon size in a week or so using cactus mix.  Then just tip it over and check the roots after a couple months and once roots hit the bottom up pot again to 3 gal or 5 gal.  And do the same thing, tip it over, slip the pot off and check if roots are at the bottom.  At that point transplant into the ground.  I do my tissue cultures that way and get fruit in under 2 years. 

One other thing to condsider is when planting young avocado trees is its important to start with good trees that wont need staking or will need minimal staking.  Thats a big advantage to growing your own trees from seed.  You can direct sow them or plant in pots and transplant.  But your trees if left out in the elements will never need to be staked.  Or only minimal corrective staking.  If you buy 100 trees from trade wind, you will have to stake every one of them and probably need multiple stakes to get them to stand up properly.  Their trees are really weak and lanky and will require a lot of labor to correct.  Trust me on this that is much nicer to start with strong trees that dont require a lot of corrective staking and pruning.  When you have to do 100 trees, it will be a ton of labor spent on correcting trees that were bad from the start.  If you want to see some pics of trade wind trees I can take some tomorrow.  If you are patient, getting seeds or seedlings and grafting will save you a lot of money and your trees will start out on the right foot also.  Just something to consider.  These are things you figure out the hard way after planting lots of trees from various nurseries and growing and grafting your own.  Ive got about 70 avocado trees and wish I had known a lot of these things before I started. 

Harrells sells it for 11$ for 50lb bags of pelletized ag gypsum.  They have harrells in florida, send them an email.   

Fredrick is egg shape.  Possum purple is egg shape also but more round.  Red rover is round like a ball with thick shell.  Yours(in the original post) looks like red rover.  Its definitely not a fredrick.

I got these yellow variety dragon fruit plant from Ebay. I thought they were cuttings, but they were like 5" plant from seeds.  I didn't know it will take 4yrs+ to fruit.  Should I try to graft a couple of them to my Vietnamese white rootstock? My Vietnamese white in the ground though.  Maybe take a vietnamese white cutting, root it in a pot, then try the graft?

It wont take 4 years.  Probably 2 years.  I wouldnt bother trying to graft them, just let them do their thing.

How about buy a squirrel trap and get rid of them?

Looks and sounds amazing.  Love the old growth redwood parks in that area.  Prarie creek was one of our favorites.  Would love to buy 20 acres on a river there and disappear.


 Your avocados are probably amazing if left on the tree for extended periods.  I guess hass should be extra ripe now after 18 mo on the tree?

Quote from: giorgosgr on October 04, 2019, 04:45:48 PM

from what i have reasd, a certain amount of winter chilling is necessary for flower bud development. Most varieties need between 100 and 200 hours of standard chilling (32° – 45° F). So with temps at mid 60s it should be a problem.. but you could always try and see the results

OK thanks. I have been unsuccessful in getting kiwi fruit to flower but I did have Cherimoya flower this year.

I will have to wait and see how my seedlings do.

Theres varieties grown in Hawaii like kaimana that dont need chill hours