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I think most of my peach and nectarines are on citation.  Which seems to work fine here. 

I have some COB lamps and the color looks excellent. 

Mounting the LEDs on the ceiling is going to look nice.  But don't small leds need to be fairly close to the plants?  Or it doesnt matter because there enough of them to put enough light out at long distances?  When you are talking about 400kwh of light, it may be way easier to just use 1000watt MH and HPS lamps hanging from the ceiling like they do in large wharehouses.  I havent looked into CMH bulbs much but it seemed like they have really nice color and more efficient than regular MH.  Those would be awesome in 1000watt bulbs. 

So how close will the 400kwh of leds be hanging to the trees?  Im sure it can be done but it seems like its going to look terrible. 

You can go for inspiration to Germany.
"The enormous dome was originally built as an airship hangar for the German company CargoLifter AG. The steel barrel-bowl construction was made to measure for the production and operation of heavy lift airship, and is optimized for volume and aerodynamic form. Built by a subsidiary of Siemens, SIAT, the building's giant dimensions posed an architectural challenge. The roof's surface measures 70,000 m and is able to withstand the significant mass of rain and snow that falls on it. The heating system is able to maintain constant temperatures in the over 5 million m of air. The building was constructed using almost 14,000 tons of steel...
the air temperature is 25C and humidity a pleasant 40 - 60%, perfect conditions for plants from all over the world. There is also under-floor heating in the Lagoon and the Tropical Sea area, so visitors do not get cold feet.
The 7,000 m of water in the Tropical Sea (28C) and Lagoon (32C) are cleaned using the latest ozone filter technology. This makes the water quality equivalent to that of drinking water. The pools themselves are constructed of stainless steel for optimum hygiene. The water has a maximum depth of 1.35 metres."

Tropical Islands project near Berlin.

What do they do for supplemental lighting during winter?  It seems like there wouldn't be sufficient lighting in DE in winter to keep tropicals happy.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Low Chill Stone fruits
« on: January 21, 2019, 10:21:16 AM »
These don't come true to seed.  They are all pollinating each other and all the trees are on special rootstocks.

Anyway, sale is done.  I trimmed the trees yesterday and am looking forward to some fruit soon.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White patches on avocado branches?
« on: January 20, 2019, 09:51:55 PM »
Its the sap of the tree like Jack said. 

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Low Chill Stone fruits
« on: January 20, 2019, 09:29:45 PM »
Anything around 100 chill hours?

Florida prince, Evas pride, may pride are all the super low chill early types.  My florida prince is already in bloom. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: brown spots on avocado leaves
« on: January 20, 2019, 09:02:00 PM »
The black sooty stuff looks like bug secretion but its hard to tell from the pic for sure. 

Any idea why this Glenn mango has stayed the same after being 2 months in the ground? It was in similar condition in its original 15 gallon pot. Since it was in ground it showed no growth at all, I have applied Osmocte and drenched it with fish and kelp emulsions. Planted at the same time other mangoes and lychees flushed several times. Only difference with this tree is I used Palm and Cactus mix instead of mulch for better drainage. Does it have a chance to regain health?

If it has only been in the ground for 2 months it just needs more tkme and some warm weather.  Probably won't get much action until around August.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cushiony Cotton scale
« on: January 20, 2019, 12:29:58 PM »
I hosed my infected tree off 3 or 4 times and its looking clean now.   

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Low Chill Stone fruits
« on: January 20, 2019, 11:42:09 AM »
Please let me know what you want asap.  I have will be out doing the pruning in a few hours from now.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GEM avocado in Los Angeles area?
« on: January 20, 2019, 10:56:04 AM »
How tall does the GEM variety reach at maturity? I can't seem to find this info in any published material.

They are supposed to stay small around 15ft.  Can probably be kept smaller with pruning.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava growth rate?
« on: January 20, 2019, 10:54:48 AM »
They grow like weeds.  Should get fruit first or second year.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Buying Mexicola avocado seeds
« on: January 19, 2019, 09:53:14 PM »
Its already past the season for mexicola in southern california.  Bacon and Fuerte are in season.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: January 19, 2019, 11:21:17 AM »
Stunning Brad!  They really look good and man, what excellent choices.

Love the pine needle mulch.

Thanks Mark and Scott.  I have more of the Hawaiian ones that were grafted in late summer.  They're all planted out too but still super tiny.  Once they hit their stride I will take some pics.  These ones in these photos are going to take off when it warms up.

Anyway I am officially done planting avocado trees.  I think we ended up with around 40 trees.

Pine mulch, yeah I have a good local tree trimmer that is happy to being me the stuff.  I have him only bring pine or pine mixes. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat grafting, when?
« on: January 18, 2019, 11:58:28 AM »
Hi Brad, I have grafted loguats at this time of year before with great success just cut your scions and cut off leaves and and blooms. I used scion wood that were no showing blooms. My new way of grafting loquats is grafting them onto quince which is supposed to dwarf them I have one tree now on quince r.s. that is about 4 years old and only about 2-1/2' tall. i wrapped my scions with parafilm too!
The best to your grafting. ;)

Thank you very much Scott.  There doesn't appear to be any new blooms.  The trees bloomed and set fruit a few months ago.  Fruits are already sized up nicely.

I've got a mcbeth tree and a big jim.  If you or anyone has any favorite cultivars and would like to trade pieces let me know. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Loquat grafting, when?
« on: January 18, 2019, 11:38:16 AM »
Can I do it now or is it better to wait for warmer weather?  The trees are flushing and in a fairly vigorous state right now.  Im looking to graft wood from one tree onto another then remove one tree. 

Does the wood need to be hardened off to use as scions?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: January 17, 2019, 03:28:35 PM »
Here some pics of trees planted last summer.  They are starting to grow nicely.  All this rain should equal a great avocado year. 

Kahaluu, I actually just dug this one up and moved it a few weeks ago.  It didnt seem to care at all.


Green gold


I planted 10 reed seedlings.  Heres 3 of them.  They will be allowed to grow and fruit.

Mexicola Grande grafted late summer took off.  Seems really happy here and tolerant of the heat.




Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Low Chill Stone fruits
« on: January 16, 2019, 10:19:17 AM »
Heres the list of trees Ive got.

Tropic Gold
Gold kist

Cot n candy
Flavor delight

Minnie royal
Royal lee
Riyal crimson

Arctic Star white subacid
Double delight
Snow queen
Spice zee nectaplum

August pride
Evas pride
Florida prince
May pride
Mid pride
Tropic snow


Emerald drop
Flavor grenade

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Low Chill Stone fruits
« on: January 15, 2019, 06:55:35 PM »
I posted in the temperate sale section with no response.  Just posting it here in case people are interested but missed it.  Im planning to prune my trees this weekend.

Have all kinds of low chill peach, nectarine, plum, apricots, cherry, and interspecifics. 

Send me a message before the weekend if you want scions. 

5$ per scion.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Panama red passiflora?
« on: January 15, 2019, 06:46:53 PM »
Is this it?  Doesnt look like edulis and other descriptions show red shell and yellow seeds.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to harvest Wurtz Avocado in FL?
« on: January 10, 2019, 03:01:48 PM »
We just ate the last one. Oily and well-flavored. Interestingly my wife considers the skin to be thin, but its so hard and brittle I cant call it thin!

Looks nice

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Passionfruits
« on: January 08, 2019, 08:14:55 PM »
I have a box or two worth of these if anyone wants passionfruits let me know. 

Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Peach and Stonefruit scions
« on: January 08, 2019, 03:33:35 PM »
Peach, plum, apricots, nectarines, interspecifics, cherry...  All are low chill types 300hrs or less. 

5$ per scion.

August pride
Eva's pride
May pride
Mid pride
Florida prince
Tropic Snow

I have many more types of stone fruit, send a PM if there is something you want.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cushiony Cotton scale
« on: January 07, 2019, 04:07:22 PM »
I went out and sprayed the scale off my gold nugget today.  Had to put three 50ft hoses together to reach it.  Then go through every inch of the tree and blast em.  Probably got 95% or more off.  Going to keep doing it for a few weeks.  Then when things warm up and ants come back will put a wrap with tanglefoot on it to keep ants away.

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