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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brown/dying blossoms on mangos in SW FL
« on: February 26, 2018, 09:57:00 AM »
OK, thanks for the helpful info everybody.  Pineislander is right, our winter has been very very dry and Feb has been very warm.  On top of it all I discovered about 6 weeks ago that the sprinklers weren't running in the zone where those trees are.  I don't know how long that was the case but I realized it when the grass was getting browner than I was expecting.  Next year I'll take care to be sure those trees get more water if it's super dry again.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brown/dying blossoms on mangos in SW FL
« on: February 25, 2018, 02:40:31 PM »
So are you saying the blossoms turned brown and died before opening, and that the ones that set fruit behaved differently? Because the way you describe it sounds like normal mango bloom behavior: they push out, the flowers open, some fruit sets, and everything where there isn't fruit turns brown shrivels up and dies.

I guess I need to look at the blossoms more closely because I'm not sure if they turned brown before or after opening.  Typically a cluster of blossoms will shoot out and 2-4 fruit will set in each "cluster" and the rest turns brown and dies.

I'm not looking for these trees to produce a lot of fruit in their 2nd year but is it normal for a younger tree to produce less fruit, and produce more fruit as it gets older?




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brown/dying blossoms on mangos in SW FL
« on: February 25, 2018, 02:36:00 PM »
Are you watering the trees?

I'm not directly watering the trees but they're getting water from the lawn irrigation which goes off twice a week.

Probably insufficient.

So in other words, mango trees don't like our typical dry Florida winters and will benefit from extra irrigation above and beyond typical lawn watering?  Many of my neighbors have large healthy looking mango trees that I know for certain don't get extra irrigation.  Is it more important when they're young?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brown/dying blossoms on mangos in SW FL
« on: February 25, 2018, 07:26:51 AM »
Are you watering the trees?

I'm not directly watering the trees but they're getting water from the lawn irrigation which goes off twice a week.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Brown/dying blossoms on mangos in SW FL
« on: February 24, 2018, 04:08:41 PM »
I live in the Ft Myers region and I have a Pickering and a Sweet Tart that have been planted for a little over a year now. The sweet tart started blooming in late November and the Pickering in early December.  Both of them produced quite a bit of blossoms, but the majority of the blossoms wound up turning brown and dying.  They both have a few small fruit that survived the dying blossoms. The sweet tart has a few fruit about the size of half dollars and the pickering has a few that are more like peas at this point.  I'm not too concerned because I know I'm really not supposed to let these trees fruit yet anyhow.  I'm just wondering if the dying blossoms are a sign of other issues that I need to be concerned about.

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Thanks for the great advice everyone!  Yeah, when I planted it I created a basin to catch water so it would get enough.  Sounds like that's exactly the opposite of what I should have done.  I'll know better next time!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What happened to my papaya? High maintenance?
« on: January 13, 2018, 03:38:36 PM »
Bought a papaya last spring from a local reputable grower (no idea what kind).  I live in Ft Myers FL.  I see them growing all around here like weeds so I didn't think they were a high maintenance plant.  The plant was about 5ft tall and had lots of healthy green leaves when I planted it.  I planted it in an area that gets irrigation twice a week.  Full sun.  As the spring and then the summer went on it started to lose leaves from the bottom, then through the summer it lost more and more leaves until just a few remained at the very top.  Eventually this fall those dropped as well and then the plant died.  Any thoughts on what might have happened?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet tart mango fruiting already
« on: December 08, 2017, 07:05:40 AM »
That's great news, thank you!  I was thinking ST was more of a mid summer fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet tart mango fruiting already
« on: December 05, 2017, 09:37:37 PM »
Just thought I'd try one more time to see if anybody had thoughts on when I can expect to see ripe fruit considering blooming in late November.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet tart mango fruiting already
« on: December 02, 2017, 06:07:16 AM »
Thanks everyone!  So if it started blooming in late November am I still looking at June-July for ripe fruit?  That seems like an awfully long time.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sweet tart mango fruiting already
« on: December 01, 2017, 04:19:16 PM »
I live in SW FL and although I'm new to this it sure looks like my sweet tart is setting blooms already as of last week.  Does that seem right?  I thought this tree typically bears pickable fruit in June/July.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado tree...should I give up?
« on: October 23, 2017, 02:37:19 PM »
Great, thanks so much for the feedback.  Fingers crossed and will add mulch.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado tree...should I give up?
« on: October 21, 2017, 02:52:08 PM »
OK, 5 weeks has gone by since the hurricane and this is what is looks like now.  It's coming along.  I sure hope the break was above the graft.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado tree...should I give up?
« on: September 30, 2017, 10:23:42 PM »
OK thanks guys.  I'll trim the break back somewhat and see what happens.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado tree...should I give up?
« on: September 30, 2017, 01:29:07 PM »
We planted a 7 gal Florida Hass last February along with a number of other fruit trees.  Unfortunately the avocado didn't fare well in Hurricane Irma and snapped in half, literally.  I noticed that just below the break it's starting to push up new growth.  Is it even worth it to let it try to re-grow?  Am I just going to get root stock, whatever that was?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gotta love all the Florida pests :(
« on: August 20, 2017, 10:06:10 PM »
There must be some thing that eats them wherever they came from. Wondering if there are any lizard or frog species that eat them..
Even if there is a predator that eats them, there are so many burrowing owls in my neighborhood that they have decimated all the treefrogs and lizards that might help. Literally a half dozen owl nests within a few blocks of me.

We only wish.  Been dealing with them here for years.  There are also other simar weevils in Florida.

I have anoles all over the place in my yard.  Wish they would eat them. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gotta love all the Florida pests :(
« on: August 20, 2017, 04:55:33 PM »
Depressing..do I just let things run their course and hope the tree is strong enough?  I'm not sure I've learned of any silver bullet thus far. I'm OK spraying them every weekend with something FWIW if that will help.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gotta love all the Florida pests :(
« on: August 20, 2017, 04:11:39 PM »
Sorry, what's ISD?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Gotta love all the Florida pests :(
« on: August 20, 2017, 10:28:29 AM »
So first it was the citrus greening literally destroying my newly planted Persian lime right before my eyes.  Now it's the little leaf notcher weevil chewing away at my mangos planted this past Feb.  I read something on this board about a product called Tanglefoot that you can buy on Amazon but other than that one mention I haven't really seen anything related to its effectiveness with these beetles.  Do they ONLY climb up the trunk?  I know they can fly but apparently not very well (?).  If they can fly up to the leaves I can't imagine that Tanglefoot will keep them off of the tree.  If they can't really fly how did they get here in the first place?  Any thoughts/suggestions?  Other than the chewed leaves the trees look healthy. They seem to like my Sweet Tart more than my Pickering for some reason.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help! Citrus greening, now what?
« on: June 26, 2017, 09:35:40 AM »
Another option is to grow a tree that doesn't require all of those insecticides. I think it's better to work with the environment and to plant a tree that can survive in an area without a constant schedule of poisons.

That's true.  Not sure what else to plant....I need to give that some thought.  Already have several mangos, an avocado, a banana, and a papaya.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help! Citrus greening, now what?
« on: June 25, 2017, 03:15:03 PM »
Thanks for the replies everyone!  If you get a chance to take a look at the link I posted I'm 99% sure those are citrus psyllid.  But like Greenman62 said I guess it's not for sure I have greening.  As suggested I will do a more aggressive fertilization...along with more aggressive root drenches and topical insecticides and see what happens.  I'll also call my dept of AG as suggested.  Still debating on tenting but maybe I'll wait to hear what AG says.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help! Citrus greening, now what?
« on: June 25, 2017, 09:57:31 AM »
On Feb 1 of this year we planted 2 new 15 gallon trees that we acquired from Fruitscapes in Pine Island FL.  The trees were very healthy looking.  1 Persian lime and 1 Meyers lemon.  Applied a root drench containing immidicloprid  about a month and a half after planting (the grower said do this once every 3 months).  I while ago now I started to notice the lime trees leaves were turning yellow and dropping.  It has now lost most of its leaves.  The lemon looks much better but we're also seeing some yellowing there as well as leaf curling and spots.  Upon closer examination I noticed a strange looking beetle under the leaves, as well as aphids and scales.  I researched the issue a bit more and soon discovered that it appears that my young trees are affected by citrus greening.  I have a gallery of photos here:

http://www.focusingonnature.com/Secondary-Galleries/Miscellaneous/Citrus-issues/

So my question is now what?  I understand that when a tree gets this disease it can never get rid of it.  But it also sounds like regular use of topical and root drench insecticides as well as tenting might keep the problem in check.  They are small trees so it wouldn't be a big deal to build tents for them and give that a try.  Has anybody on this forum successfully reversed a citrus greening infection?

I don't really want to rip them out and buy new trees because I'm afraid the same thing will happen to them.

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Your house is in a beautiful location, i wouldn't worry about an avocado tree.😀

Thank you.   :)

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Hope that tree is on W. Indies rootstock like Waldin.   However most of the avocado tree roots are shallow and it looks like you're a good 3' above the water line.  Where's the water table?  One way to find out is with a post hole digger.

Do you have a water analysis for the water source you're using? 

It's my understanding that Hass is not a good match for Florida.

My understanding is the FL Hass uses a different root stock, that's how it was explained to me.  Good question on the water table...I'm not sure  I'm guessing it's a ways down there because when my royal palms were planted down by the seawall they dug deep holes and didn't hit water.  The tree is set back a ways from the seawall so it's at a higher elevation than the palms.

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Shoot.  Do you think this tree is salvageable?

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