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Do we need to cut off scion above ground but below the graft union after sometime?

Like Chandramohan said, approach graft.
I would like to add, don't cut the scion below the graft, there is no need. Keep it as additional rootstock, it will give the plant a more established root system given by the combination of the two.
Just cut above the graft the rooststock if you don't wish to keep that variety.

Any update on this? Got myself some Lotus and Virginiana seedling to try, but I would like to hear how it's going from you guys.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Should I train my cambuca?
« on: May 21, 2018, 01:58:55 AM »
When I don't want to cut I always train the branches with wires to open/close the canopy an guide a branch in a specific direction.
I see no reason to let it grow freely if you got the time do do it

Thanks - I wish we could "Like" posts here  :)
Likes were possible before and moderators took that out.
Oscar, have you ever restocked these seeds?
I believe they are out of stock since forever right?
Or they come and go immediately?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tasting Pitomba
« on: May 07, 2018, 07:22:13 AM »
Good to know, I will keep it in a pot then. 
Did you try Pitangatuba in the ground by any chance? I just put mine in the ground but I am fearing for it.
However sometime the same plant can vary a lot between seedling.
I am finding it is easier to make reasonably young ( around 2 years) plant happy in my climate then older plants.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tasting Pitomba
« on: May 06, 2018, 05:32:33 PM »
Hi Joe,
How did you Pitomba pass the winter?
We have similar climate, so I am always curious as to what survive at your place.

Regarding taste, did you try other resinous Eugenia for comparison? Something like Uniflora.
Cause some people doesn't detect the peppery after taste at all.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anybody ID this avocado?
« on: May 06, 2018, 04:46:50 PM »
Sorry, I donít know enough about the specific leaf shapes to help you out. Does it have the anise smell that some avocado varieties have?

That's the point. It was supposed to have anice smell since Walter Hole is a mexican breed, but it doesn't.
It should be one of these, cause I am pretty sure the nursery is buying from them:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anybody ID this avocado?
« on: May 05, 2018, 05:20:14 PM »

Here except from one nursery which sell minuscule plants of registered varieties at exorbitant prices all the other are just labeled: red, pink, yellow,etc.
That's why I wanted to know if it was worth the money.
So far I have:
Faustrime which I totally despise, because of the soapy undertone.

finger sanguinea, which grow like a slug. It did make a fruit last year but didn't fully develop.
The taste was promising however.

One generic red, which is just red outside.
Taste like a regular lime.

Another red, which is flowering now. Never tasted yet.

Is there any finger lime collector here?
I am intrigued by the finger limes, but so far my experience with them hasn't been overwhelming.
I saw the description of the registered varieties and they seem to vary a lot in taste and juiciness, is it true or it's just marketing.
Juiciness especially has been a disappointment for me, since I couldn't taste yet a finger lime which would pop in my mouth, mostly I feel like eating lemon pulp.
Does some variety really "explode" more than the others?

On another note, what about the varieties that are described as having spicy apple taste and apricot? I really can't picture it. Is it true? Varieties like Red Champagne for example.

Oh god thank you. I always wondered what that vomit I keep finding around was.

My Nippon Orangequat produces fruit as large as a mandarin.  It isn't very good, though.  I have most kumquats and hybrids and my experience is that while the skin is edible on the hybrids it isn't actually sweet like "true" kumquats such as nagami, marumi, fukushu, meiwa. 

I would love a kumquat-grapefruit hybrid.   Even better if more seedless kumquats were available. You
Well if the fruit is not too sour, it's ok as long as it's not bitter :D
I didn't know the red lime was sweet. Didn't read raging reviews about that.

Its not big like an orange but skin of the Centennial Kumquat is sweet, and an exxellent balance with the virtually seedless flavorful tart flesh.

Skin of the red lime is very much edible and sweet and fruit is of decent size compared to kumquat.
The centennial kumquat look exactly like my Orangequat variegated. Some website even changed the name too. But mine isn't seedless

The skin of mandarinquat is edible, although it isn't as good as kumquat.

You probably wouldn't consider this edible in the same sense as kumquats but the skin from the rinds of citron are very good in baked goods, or candied.

Too bad. I saw this video about mandarinquat and could never understand what it is.
Seem like an Indio, but people says Indio is too sour. Either she like super sour fruits or that is another thing.

So far the biggest kumquat hybrid I have is this. It was sold as Limequat, but I'm not sure if it's an Eustis whose fruit become extra big because there were few or it's a Sunquat. The fruit was edible out of hand at this ripeness. I had another Limequat eustis, smaller plant, and the fruit never got bigger than half of this.

On a side note, what the hell is a Taiwaniquat? Saw it mentioned somewhere on facebook and can't find any info, maybe mispelled?

I'm a big fan of kumquat hybrid and I was wondering how come there is no hybrid with big fruit yet?
I think it could be a very interesting fruit commercially, it's strange there isn't more hybridization testing.
Something like a orange or a grapefruit cross which maintain the size and combine the sweet skin.
I have an orangequat variegated and while the taste it's exactly like orange, it's still a kumquat in size.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anybody ID this avocado?
« on: April 12, 2018, 08:33:55 AM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Can anybody ID this avocado?
« on: April 09, 2018, 12:05:19 PM »
Hi, last year I bought 2 avocado grafted on Water Hole, and left the rootstock grow since I want to keep a pure mexican variety.
I bought from a nursery which I think buy from viveros blanco and since I can't find anything about Water Hole and the pictures on the website look awfully similar to Walter Hole(with an extra L) I thought it was that.
Problem is the leaves doesn't resemble the few I can find about Walter Hole, and it doesn't have the usual anise smell of the mexican avo.
The leaf is huge and almost two times that of the bacon you can see on the right(although it doesn't seem from the picture). Also it was damaged more than the  Bacon and Hass growing on it.
Any idea what's that?
Other roostocks Viveros Blanco use are Mexicola, Nachar, Maoz and Lula.

Before trashing it you can try bridge grafting it. It's a technique to repair this kind of damage.

Problem is yours start almost at the base, so it can be difficult.  You could try doing it diagonally.
Another two possible solutions:
1-Plant a seed to the base and inarch graft the trunk above the damage.
2-Do something like the above but graft the lower end to one big wooden root like this:

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Eremolemon
« on: April 05, 2018, 01:04:47 PM »
I bought a grafted eremorange at a nursery with the fruits on. The fruits fallen soon and the taste was super sour.
Not sure if it was really an eremorange cause it looked different from another eremorange grown from cutting I had before that died.
It wasn't an Eremolemon or Eremocitrus for sure because the fruit was orange. I also have an Eremolemon which didn't fruit yet.
It could be mine was still young and did drop the fruit before ripening or it could be something else, maybe citrangeremo?
I doubt that even arrived in our country however.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do you like jujube fruit?
« on: April 05, 2018, 05:12:45 AM »
Thank you all for replies.
I read that jujube tastes like dates which I do not like. But I read quite a few posts with people loving this fruit and comparing it with really good apple which I letís give it a try. Honey jar - I am coming to adopt you into a loving home.   :)

There is two kinds of flavor mostly. The one that is super sweet without tartness(this is the one compared to dates) and the kinds with more balanced sweet/tart flavor( this is probably what people compare to apples).
I can't stand the sweet one, but it seem much more common in commercial varieties.
Judging by the name, "Honey jar", I'm quite sure it's the sweet kind comparable to dates, so I would avoid it in your case.
Then it also depends on the level of ripeness, some people wait for them to wrinkle so that it gets even sweeter.
Of course there are in between varieties, but you get the idea.

Buy with confidence. Had 100% germination from Hari, Hirsutus seeds.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / What artocarpus fruit is this?
« on: March 23, 2018, 03:24:32 AM »
I saw this fruit on facebook, the seller says it's a jackfruit but it seem more like a small chempedak.
Can you recognize the species and the cultivar? He doesn't seem to speak much english.


Here you can find seedlings( or rooted cuttings, I think the translation is wrong):
This seem a dwarf variety, the original cultivar I think it's trademarked.

Some info:

I've used my super searching skill for your quest  8)
Try looking for Prunus mume, doesn't seem so rare.
It's not a cultivar of regular Apricot(prunus armeniaca) but another species.

Since it's grafted, it is a known cultivar?
Info on the fruit?

Raul, will you have them available in a few months?
I am interested but right now it's too cold and would like to avoid to refrigerate them( does it even work for this?) .

By the way, how many years does it take with grafted plants?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Anyone have Gomera mango seeds?
« on: February 18, 2018, 05:41:50 PM »
Just want to say that in my opinion Gomera is overrated.
I have one 2 year plant bought in a nursery in a unheated cheap greenhouse and it's in a much worse condition than a seedling less than 1 years old outside the greenhouse.

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