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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ebay Ilama seeds
« on: September 09, 2020, 12:23:33 PM »
Hi Satha,

He is an eBay vendor based in Acapulco, Mexico, not a forum member.

I remember long time ago, there was a forum member argued with the Romanian lady alleged she is selling non-genuine ilama seed but she fought back that she's selling the genuine ones and blacklisted the forum member for finger-pointing her.


Hi Satha,

I bought a few seeds from her 2 years ago and I am very sure it is not the real thing as the seeds were smaller than the genuine A. diversifloia/A. macroprophyllata (ilama) and it never germinated even if I used GA3.

Rather you get them from eBay vender naretmx and it is normally available in October/November. I bought 30 seeds (20 red + 10 white) from him last October and he is more reliable. Besides giving me some extra seeds, he also put in other gratis seeds.

I hope this info can help.

Pretoria, South Africa

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Red annona seeds
« on: May 01, 2020, 01:28:52 AM »

PM sent to you just now. Kindly check. Thanks

Hi waxy,

PM sent through the forum and your email add. Kindly check


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seeds for sale
« on: January 17, 2020, 03:52:52 PM »
Thanks Steve.

Seeds arrived in immaculate condition and all of them germinated with vigor!

Great seller! Highly recommended to all forum member. Will order again in future


PM sent just now at 2050 Bali time. Kindly check.

23 December 2019

Jackalberry tree Diospyros mespiliformis from namibia

Who is interested

Hi Hendrik,

I am interested in some 10 to 20 seeds but depends on price. I would like to know if you or any South Africans have ever used the species as rootstock for grafting other cultivated Diospyros species like the Asian persimmons or the American persimmons. Is it termite-resistant as described in the websites? I got terrible termites problems here in Pretoria as they feed on the roots of my Asian persimmons and extremely difficult to get rid of them without killing the tree. Kindly confirm price, shipping, payment mode and availability.

Lynnwood Ridge, Pretoria

Hi Simon,

It's a pleasure. Please let me know if you have succeeded in grafting this 'Shek Kip' and I hope I can buy a piece or 2 scions from you, in due course. Thanks you in advance for your assistance in this connection.


Hi Simon,

Nice to meet you in the forum the first time. Actually, I have been communicating with your buddy Brad previously requesting for the supply of scions to be shipped to South Africa.

I am a retired Hong Kong government officer emigrated to South Africa since 1992. I saw your request for photos of the famous Chinese ‘Shek Kip’ (the proper name in Cantonese) longan. It has been very popular in Hong Kong in the 1960s but disappeared from the local market when Thai imports started to flush in. Its size is smaller in comparison with the Thai counterpart but sweeter and much more flavourful. Though it has long history of cultivation in China, especially in Guangxi and Guangdong provinces, it is still relative unknown in the West. That’s why you cannot find any information/photos in Google with the English name ‘Sek Ip’ or ‘Shek Kip’ which means “growing out of the gap or crevice (kip) of a stone (shek)”. There are plenty of information and photos when you Google with the Chinese name ‘石硤龍眼’. You can just copy the Chinese name and paste to either Google or Google Image to acquire the information you required. I have no idea if you can read Chinese but there is no problem if you use Google Translate to interpret the contents narrated in Chinese, though the translation is clumsy and far from desirable. Hereunder are some links that might be useful to you: -
   From Mainland China:
   From Hong Kong:
   From Taiwan:
I sincerely hope that the above can help.
Paul Ng,
Pretoria, South Africa.
29 September 2019

Hi Xun,

I am also interested to know in what medium you packed your Red Longan seeds for shipment. I have had many bitter moments for numerous shipments of ordinary longan seeds from Thailand and Suriname in the past 5 years. They arrived just shriveled and never germinated as they were packed either dried or vacuum packed. Longan is indeed has a very short viable period and old seeds simply fail to germinate.

Thanks for the info.


I should be most grateful if you could furnish more details of the Red Longan:

1) How many years will it take from germination to first fruiting under optimal condition?
2) Roughly what is the size and weight of the fruit?
3) Do you ship via EMS?


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ilama seeds for sale
« on: July 19, 2019, 02:41:20 AM »

I sincerely hope that you could put me on the waiting list for 20 Guillermo ilama seeds.

Good growing!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ilama seeds for sale
« on: July 17, 2019, 04:00:33 AM »
Hi Koryph,

I wish to have 20 seeds of your ilama if available this season, to be sent via USPS Priority Mail International. Kindly confirm.

Paul from South Africa

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Want Ilama/Sancoya seeds
« on: July 14, 2019, 03:36:40 PM »
With pleasure!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Want Ilama/Sancoya seeds
« on: July 13, 2019, 02:01:00 PM »

I am also looking for more seeds of ilama, Annona diversifolia which has pink pulp and cracks when ripe, NOT soncoya which is Annnona purpurea with yellow pulp. They are 2 distinct annona species. So far I have tried the eBay vendor in Mexico who trade name is naretmx and he is a reliable supplier. Unfortunately he said it is out of stock ATM and he may have ilama seeds around September 2019. The following are also sources but I have never tried: -

Annona purpurea, Soncoya or cabeza de negro (Yellow or orange fleshed)

(in stock: 10 seeds EUR7.80)
      (out of stock: 5 seeds US$10.95)
(in stock: 2+ seeds US$6.97 plus shipping $14.99)
(in stock: 5 seeds EUR4.00)
(in stock: 5 seeds EUR2.50)

Annona diversifolia, ilama (purplish-pink pulp and fruit tends to crack when ripe)

      (in stock: 3 seeds US$5.99 + shipping $6.99)

eBay vendor: naretmx ― I have confirmed with him that he may have seeds in coming September. A reliable vendor from Mexico which I have patronized 5 times buying mamey sapote and ilama seeds but unfortunately the latter failed to germinate. It is a very difficult seed to germinate according to forum members.

Beware, there is a lot of online traders selling fake or look-alike things. Recently I have been cheated by a Sri Lankan vendor who was selling canistel (pouteria campechiana) seeds as mamey sapote (pouteria sapota) seeds. Luckily I got back a refund and I won't trust him anymore!

Good luck!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Mango scions from India
« on: July 12, 2019, 08:45:02 AM »

Count me in!

I am also eager to have several scions of each cultivar, if available. Please let us know.


Hi Roy,

Kindly provide us with price information of M sylvatica and your shipping mode. Mango seeds must be shipped via EMS for maximum viability, according to my past experience with eBay vendors in India. What is the EMS tariffs for sending them over to South Africa, say for 5 to 10 unmolded, viable and clean seeds? Please advise


Have you contact one of our South African forum member whose name is stuartdaly88, he stays in Pretoria and he might be able to help you to locate the seeds you required.

I got further information regarding the Thai Gold Apple from one of the Thai eBay vendors: -

Item specifics:
Country/Region of Manufacture:    Thailand   Genus:    Ebenaceae
Fruit Type:    Persimmon   Foliage:    Semi-evergreen
Plant Form:    Plant   Common Name:    Gold Apple
Soil Type:    Sandy loam   Watering:    Medium
Climate:    Sub-tropical, Temperate, Tropical   Season of Interest:    Spring
Sunlight:    Full Sun   Tree Type:    Fruit
USDA Hardiness Zone (°F):    13 (> 60 °F), 7 (0 to 10 °F), 8 (10 to 20 °F), 9 (20 to 30 °F), 10 (30 to 40 °F), 12 (50 to 60 °F)      
Diospyros decandra is a tropical tree in the ebony family. Its flowers are white.
It is also the provincial tree of Chanthaburi Province, Thailand; its Thai name is "In-Jan".
It is a small plant (about 5–6 m tall). Its leaves are 6–8 cm long and 3–4 cm wide with a pointed tip.
The amazing of Gold Apple is fruit have 2 shapes in a tree. Round (female) fruit have 2-4 seeds inside but flat (male) fruit haven't any seeds.
The raw fruit have unique flavour, soft texture and strong fragrant smell.

1 Grafted Bare Root (Grafted Plant can fruit within 2 years)
Approximate height 50+ cm
We ship bare root in moist Peat moss.

Shipping Service
We ship plant by EMS Post Service.
Shipping Cost included Phytosanitary Certificate Document already

The following eBay links also provide some nice photos of the species: -

I have some feedback from a Thai eBay vendor about the fruiting habits of Diospyros decandra, the Gold Apple, for all forum members to share as reproduced below: -

“Both male and female flowers are residing on the same tree.
Fruits have 2 shapes: Flat fruit is born from a male flower that grows to be a false fruit without seeds.
Round fruit is born from a female flower that will produce seeds.
Usually, one tree will have alternate bearing habit with different year. If this year it produces flat fruit, then it will produce round fruit the next year.
However, it happens that some trees come out with flat and round fruit together at the same time.”

The above seems to contradict somewhat with what stated in, which I have quoted in my previous posting on the 7th July. The website said the species is a dioecious, i.e. with either male flowers or female flowers borne on separate trees.

In this connection, we have to do lengthy experiments by ourselves to find out the truth, which might take years.

There's another issue about growing Diospyros decandra, according to, the species is dioecious, i.e. it has male and female flowers borne on separate trees. One needs to be patiently enough, if he/she can manage to grow it from seeds to maturity, when it can be distinguished which one is male and which is female. Unlike most Asian persimmons, female flowers can set fruit without the pollens from a male. Unfortunately there is scant information about this species though it is popularly grown in SE Asia. Perhaps some experts can shed light and provide us with more information, e.g. time needs to take from seed to first fruiting, correct method to germinate the seeds, stratify or not stratify, etc.

Do you have in stock of pre-germinated or sprouted Gold apple seeds? I found it extremely difficult to germinate this difficult Thai persimmon seed as my previous imports of more than 50 seeds ended up in complete failure in South Africa. Kindly confirm. Thanks


I am an old pensioner writing from South Africa. Can you tell me if you will have seeds of Annona reticulata ‘Corazón’ in the coming season. If so, can I pre-order for 16 seeds please? Kindly send me your PayPal link when available. Thanks

South Africa
03 July 2019

So I wrote the corresponding author of the paper "Identification of interspecific hybrids between loquat (E. japonica) and bengal loquat (E. bengalensis)" and asked him about the progress of the project. While he is already working in another area, he sent me a link to a news article.

Google Translate:

Apparently the hybrid trees mentioned in the paper have already flowered and fruited twice and produced tasty loquats. From what I've understood via Google/Bing Translate, they flower in March (the text also mentions April?) and produce fruit in June. Their current temporary cultivar name is "Spring Blossoms" loquat ('春花'枇杷) and the trees are located at the scientific research park of Sichuan Agricultural University. The team is currently trying to graft them on regular loquat cultivars. Can anybody who speaks Chinese confirm (regarding April)?

So I guess there are spring-blooming loquats now :D

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