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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making changes after this freeze
« on: February 17, 2018, 02:37:33 PM »
Thanks Corey, I’ll have to do that

Most of the mangos are toast, even large well established trees. There are 2 that I’ve seen still alive, 1 is right next to a house. Of course all the papayas went down too. I thought everybody’s bananas were gone but I’m glad to see them all pushing out new green leaves. The lychees are doing amazing pushing tons of blooms, guess they loved the cold weather. I seem to remember reading that they need cold anyway to fruit well.

Godspeed on the new refocused project, hopefully less work and still great fruit!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making changes after this freeze
« on: February 10, 2018, 09:33:46 PM »
I’m in same area as Corey, wasn’t able to protect any of my stuff as I was out of country.

Here’s the rundown:

Crispy, AKA Probably dead:
Venus mango
Seed grown avocado
Garden stuff: tomatoes, squash, watermelon etc, etc, etc

Damaged, but with pruning probably ok:
6/7 of my different dragon fruit cuttings
Everbearing Mulberry x 2
Garden: Carrots

Alive, and mostly thriving!:
Hood pear
LSU Purple Fig
Brogdan Avocado
Garden: Kale, Bok Choy, Kohlrabi, Strawberries

For me: Life is too short to get caught up too much in a hobby. Like Corey, and probably more intensively, I’m focusing on other things that matter way more.


Temperate Fruit Discussion / Spots on Pear leaves
« on: August 23, 2017, 01:06:42 PM »
I have a Hood Pear that has these spots all over the leaves. Seems to not be there with new growth but then quickly spreads to them. No fruit yet, this is its 2nd year in the ground. Leaves hang on despite the spots, and will fall when it goes dormant.

Google hasn't been very illuminating, waiting on the extension service to get back to me. Thoughts?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lakeland Florida project
« on: August 04, 2017, 05:37:34 PM »
That's a ton of water.

Glad you finally have some Dragon fruit after all those failed flowers!

Like Cory (c24mccain) I live in Lakeland- we probably have 10-20 mango trees in our neighborhood alone. Some pretty large. Obviously once they're large you can't do much to them, but when they're smaller you can protect them well enough for freezes. However I'm pretty sure Nancy (Puglvr1) lives closer by Orlando and had some hard freezes that led to her cutting her trees back hard (hence the term "pugging" used frequently on this forum). Lakeland is a smidge warmer than there.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tebow Mango Surprise
« on: July 09, 2017, 01:19:48 PM »
+1 to Rob. Brilliant.

Though I for one like Tebow (the man) a lot. Haven't tasted the variety.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado identification?
« on: July 05, 2017, 04:38:55 PM »
I figured as much which is why I'm more curious about the parent variety. With Mangoes you have maybe 3-4 regular commercial varieties, didn't know if avocados would be the same.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: San Diego garden photos
« on: July 04, 2017, 08:31:29 PM »
Nice spread!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado identification?
« on: July 04, 2017, 06:58:05 PM »
A small branch on my inlaws tree broke off early=82 avocados collected. Needless to say it's very productive. I know we try to identify mangoes all the time. Didn't know if you could do the same thing with avocados.

Trying to identify the parent plant- it is a seedling from a commercial avocado bought in FL about 15 years ago.
A watercado (large variety)
When ripened off the tree the skin turns purple.

Here's some pics

I thought he was down south...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best under ripe mangoes
« on: June 23, 2017, 11:47:28 AM »
Just had an excellent green Nam Doc Mai this morning. I'm sure Jeff (cookiemonster) would agree

Tropical Fruit Discussion / When to pick Carrie- Truly Tropical
« on: June 22, 2017, 10:08:44 PM »
I'm loving Chris from Truly Tropical's YouTube channel. Great information here. Latest upload: How to know when to pick your Carrie Mango

In a nutshell look for (in no particular order):

1. Color change- from green to yellow
2. Smooth skin
3. Plump fruit
4. Browning on the stem
5. Sap lines/marks

Doesn't have to be all the above. But should be at least a couple.

-Hopefully others can share if these tips also play out for those in Carrie's family tree (Angie, etc. )

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Strawberry Protection Society
« on: June 19, 2017, 04:44:33 PM »
I live next to the winter strawberry capital of the country- Plant City. I plan to buy my crowns/roots (bare rooted?) From Parkesdale farmers market, or even on the side of the road in that town. They should start selling in September-October. These are Florida specific varieties, as I think we might be the only part of the country that grows them in winter, and northern varieties crash and burn in FL. They sell them by the dozen I think for pretty cheap. Plant at the level of the crown, water, grow. Fruit from Nov to April.

Strawberries attract lots of pests - hence the reason for this topic. They are the #1 most pesticide filled fruit in the market ( Commercial growers plant them in rows with black plastic impregnated with pesticides/herbicides covering them to prevent more weeds/pests. This also prevents them from sending out lots of runners that can compromise fruit production. Growing them as an annual in FL leads to best fruit production.

At home though you can plant in raised beds, pots or hanging pots to ameliorate many of these problems.

This article is helpful, though still written with more of a traditional style growing in mind:

Anyone in Polk county or east Hillsborough with extra mangoes or other tropical fruit to share or buy? Looking for some fresh. Not Tommy Atkins ;)


I suppose anything is possible Har. Ultimately if you're not worried about it than neither am I. Not to mention fruit is still 1-2 years in the future, and I'd rather not spray a tree while it is establishing unless necessary.


Checked this whole thread and couldn't find my problem.

Just purchased a 7 gallon Venus from a local nursery- i think it might have been a little neglected, but it was my only option for this variety. My question is it has several ulcerated gray areas on the leaves, some of which have flaked away. It doesn't seem to be affecting the health of the tree, but then again, I've only had it for 3 days and its only been in the ground for 2. Seems more pest related than disease, but then again I'm no Har or Rob or anybody else with experience.

If you enlarge the second image you can see scattered spots on other leaves as well.

Muchas Gracias

Kudos, looks great!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Music to plant your Mangoes by
« on: June 12, 2017, 03:37:56 PM »
Definitely have seen Dr No, but didn't remember that song. I'll have to rewatch it.
“Every Time I Eat Vegetables It Makes Me Think Of You” – Ramones
“Don’t Eat Stuff Off the Sidewalk” – The Cramps
"Me, The Mango Picker" - Carlo Mombelli
A Garden In The Rain - Perry Como

Ok just kidding around.   good luck on your Pickering and Venus.

The Ramones also sang the famous "I Wanna be Irrigated"

And let's not forget the George Harrison/Beatles classic "While my Coconut Cream Gently Weeps"

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Music to plant your Mangoes by
« on: June 10, 2017, 08:26:59 PM »
Finally got my 7 gallon Venus and my 3 gallon Pickering. Excited to put them in the ground.

So what music do you like to plant your mangoes by? The agony and the ecstasy. Ive listed some possibilities:

Livin' on a Prayer
Don't Let Me Down
Dream On
Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head

How bout yours?

Well, Rob got me thinking. Then, seeing the spacing Chris has in some of her trees at Truly Tropical (, I am  more firmly considering just doing 8 foot spacing, instead of 2 in 1 hole.

Brogdon avo (already there)
Venus mango (to be planted)
Pickering mango (to be planted)
Unknown avo (already there)

I wouldn't be doing anything with the "extra" space the 2 in 1 planting would create, as it wouldn't really be that much more, maybe 11 feet from the avos instead of 8. Plus the 8 ft spacing will help more with disease and provide a little more wind protection in my gusty area.

You guys should talk to the Jaboticabaholics, they've got 51 pages of problems.

If you travel to Winter Garden from Ocala you can go to Our Kids Nursery- he is growing Pakistani long blueberries.

It was vigorous, then it snapped itself in half in a windstorm, and consequently I pruned it back hard to correct the damage. Thus far it's been coming back slowly.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rain...
« on: June 07, 2017, 01:58:07 PM »
I remember you stating that they were a tough crop for South Florida, though I believe I recall another forum member in the Dragon fruit thread quoting an academic who stated that FL was the most ideal area of the country to grow them in. Theory and practice can at times be strange bedfellows though.

Regardless, the rain will certainly provide a survival of the fittest scenario for them, hopefully proving your  most vigorous, hearty varieties, which on a commercial scale like yours I would assume is one of the top priorities. Just don't want to lose too much!

I wouldn't plant 2 in one hole but thats just me.  I know people have space issues but why cause potential tree health issues.  Just plant one for now, let it establish and then if you must, top work it for the second variety. 

Venus should outgrow the Pickering.   Other than on early blooms, those two will give you more mid and late.

I remembered seeing that you weren't a fan in a previous thread, and I definitely value your opinion. When you say tree health issues do you mean increased risk or susceptibility to powdery mildew or anthracnose due to less airflow or something more like rootstock issues?

I have a 25 ft area in which to work, between 2 young avocados that will also be kept very small (Brogdan and unknown large fruit variety). Both are only about 5 feet tall right now. I could conceivably put the mangoes at 8 foot spacing instead if it would improve disease resistance/productivity, but that would put them closer to the Avos. With 2 in 1 hole they are more like 11-12 feet from the avos. 

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