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Let me clarify - yes you can plant now but I don't recommend it. The plant won't grow (much... Some of my in ground are still flushing or started to flower) but the disease pressures are high and it's much easier for me to control in pots than in ground hooked up to irrigation. A few years ago I lost 1/3 of my mangos before spring started. For me it's just easier to keep protected and on the dry side (don't overwater).

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No, keep overwinter in pot with minimal watering, protect from wind, and plant in March or April. Die back from freeze and fungus typically shows in March first.

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They sold out immediately 🤷🏽‍♂️ local price in stores is what, 13$/pound? This is a bargain compared to that, and for named top tier varieties, it'd a no brainer.

You can buy from here.  For 29$ per pound it should come labeled...  :o :'(

https://www.etsy.com/listing/805059319/cherimoyas?ref=hp_opfy-1&frs=1&variation0=1392856276

For that price, they should drive them to you and spoon feed you after all seeds are removed.

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Pay attention to the screc website. This offer unfortunately already sold out but they had top tier varieties for sale at a bargain.


The first Cherimoya Pop-Up Presale is now live! We currently have only 23 bags of cherimoya for sale. Each bag contains between 5-8 pieces of fruit and weighs ~8-10lbs.

Bags are $50 each and contains a mix of the following varieties: Carmella, Sabor, Orton, Fino de Jete, Deliciosa, Selma, Big Sister, Pierce, Chaffey, Whaley, Oxheart, Santa Rosa, and White. 

All bags are prepacked; fruit cannot be swapped or exchanged.

Bags will be available for pickup on Friday, December 4th from 9-12pm at UC South Coast Research in Irvine. To purchase, please visit: http://ucanr.edu/survey/survey.cfm?surveynumber=32524

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: how much watering in how cold weather?
« on: November 30, 2020, 02:03:55 AM »
Depends what you are watering, whether or not the plant goes dormant in the cold season, and the type of soil you have. As an example, I water my avocados 3 times weekly in summer and once every 1-2 weeks in winter if there is no rain.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pinkerton avocado as rootstock
« on: November 26, 2020, 01:03:44 AM »
Large commercial grower in Fallbrook said to loon for big seeds or west Indian, and frank has seconded the west Indian suggestion. I've had great luck with bacon seedlings I got from Brad. Fast and vigorous growing trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Air Layering Balls
« on: November 26, 2020, 01:01:19 AM »
I tried similar ones. Worked well enough on figs in late spring.

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My trees have grown pretty well the past 2 years, although I haven't been on top of pruning. Seedlings definitely grow best, but some varieties like lemon zest and orange essence and Ambrosia have grown very well for me. My best fruit this year has been pina colada (brix 27-30, ripe in November) and cac (brix 26, ripe in October). Coconut cream had brix 16 but still carried its flavor well. Taralay alwa had been brix about 15, good texture and flavor just OK. Ambrosia I believe is not true Ambrosia, got it from plantogram. M4 has put out lots of fruit which I harvested early last week prior to ripening... I picked early because I figured our Temps were dropping and they wouldn't get any better, will report later. Overall, I was disappointed until tasting the Pina colada and cac. There's hope for next year. For comparison, I had picked 1 Pina colada 1 month ago, brix about 16 and not anything special. 1 month later - fantastic taste. Orange sherbet put out several mangos but the ones I've tried so far haven't been anything special either. I chalk it up to young trees. I'm planning on changing my fertilization and watering practices next spring and expecting better quality fruit next year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to top work cherimoya trees
« on: November 12, 2020, 03:56:04 AM »
Yeah, I'll pull one up. Give me a couple of days. Won't get to yard u til the weekend.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to top work cherimoya trees
« on: November 10, 2020, 11:17:42 PM »
Modified cleft /veneer. And you can still cleft the top if you like.

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Hi there. Looks like you really  Looks like you really want to make sure that you're doing it right. Over all you have a have a great shape which is the 1st part. If you want to get down to the fine details, up most of us will prune the tree individual branches when they get to about 18" long which is usually to flushes or so. I like to prune by tipping at the node so that but a buds an individual leaves get activated and you get branching all along being a new branch as opposed to multiple buds activated at the note which results in branching all at the same spot which is weaker. This should result  In shorter But stronger branches that have Better architecture. Good luck. As for fertilizing, some people fully or spray every month. I am on and off with that period otherwise you can fertilize every 3 months of be aware that in Winter the tree slows down you may not want to push the nitrogen. Same with growth. If you are happy with the growth in don't want the tree to become much larger com I would not push the nitrogen.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: August 06, 2020, 10:11:34 PM »
My reed tree set fruit for the first time this year.  They're sizing up quickly. Already baseball size. I should be harvesting them next year right? Is that normal? For them to get so large so fast? It's on toro canyon rootstock.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black sapote problems
« on: August 03, 2020, 03:04:22 AM »
6 feet tall and 8 feet wide. Many branches, bright green leaves, almost 100 flowers per tree, maybe more. They look just like persimmon flowers  but end up drying and falling off.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Black sapote problems
« on: August 02, 2020, 09:51:17 PM »
Hi all

I have 2 in ground black sapote, reinecke and ...black beauty(?). I've had them for 3 years. They flower every year, and each year the flowers dry up and fall off. They look very similar to persimmon flowers (I believe they are related). I know some plants have male flowers, but as I have grafted plants the source material should be able to bear fruit.

I'm at a loss at this point and am thinking of replacing the trees or topworking them. It would be a shame to sacrifice 2 great looking trees, but after 3 years and with no fruit to show for it, I'm hard pressed to keep these when they should have fruited within a year.

Am I missing anything? Doing something wrong?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: first time mango owner, need help
« on: July 22, 2020, 01:44:25 AM »
Welcome

Your tree is pushing out new growth from multiple buds, but it looks like the branches will be weak. The buds are all erupting from the joint. You may be better off cutting just below that area so that the buds are staggered.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Haas and Haas Carmen
« on: July 22, 2020, 01:29:01 AM »
The different season may be either from differences in climate or it may be one of the successive flowerings. My tree flowers 2 to 3 times per year, and it's hard to tell which group the fruit comes from.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Pollinating Cherimoyas
« on: July 02, 2020, 02:15:12 AM »
Brad, I've read that a small black beetle that likes compost and rotting fruit is an excellent pollinator for annonas, hence the stories of leaving rotting fruit under the trees. Reportedly, naturally pollinated fruits are more likely to be partially pollinated and will have curved shapes instead of being fully symmetric (completely pollinated).

Ive started to toss fruit underneath. Also it seems that my atemoyas set fruit more readily. South coast research station I was told doesn't do anything special for the Grove

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Technically avocados can be airlayered. That's how they generate clonal rootstocks, but it is a long and laborious process. I've heard they take up to a year or more to form roots. I personally don't think it's worth it. It's really easier to germinate seeds and graft over the strongest seedlings.

I've actually used the plastic shells and the flat air propagators for air layering figs and can usually get roots to show in 6 weeks.

A few years ago, a member posted a video from south Asia or Southeast Asia of a large mango tree that was essentially air layered, but it looked like the climate was tropical and really conducive to such.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« on: June 15, 2020, 02:36:07 AM »
Fwiw, I got nishikawa scions from squam 2 years ago and the tree grows like a beast here in socal.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Buying Ice Cream Bean Seeds?
« on: June 15, 2020, 01:21:58 AM »
Buy from oscar at fruitlovers nursery. He's got several different varieties. I have 3 different Inga species growing now, all seeds bought from oscar, all germinated and growing easily and well in socal.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Boost My Grafting Confidence!
« on: May 16, 2020, 07:18:48 AM »
Disagree re persimmons. I find them very easy to do... I have some to my 12 year old last year to teach him and he was 3/3 and I don't think the particularly cared, just wanted to be done so he could go back to what he wanted to do.

Apples are considered very forgiving - I taught my wife how to do several this past year with high success rate.

Figs are also forgiving, but easier to do for us in February or March when latex isn't so high but still great take rate.

Avos do well but are finicky and new growth is very susceptible to heat/high temps/heat waves

Stone fruit is also forgiving

Citrus has high success rate in spring and summer

Cherimoya also has high success rate.

Mangos are super forgiving for us in July and August

By forgiving, I mean high success despite your technique.

Good luck

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Shiranui at CCPP is very seedy?
« on: May 09, 2020, 08:20:30 PM »
Mine hardly has any seeds, maybe 1 per fruit. Source ccpp

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I recently bought gold nugget, dang rasimi, and black gold scioms from oscar at fruitlovers. Great quality and received quickly. Now I'd like to source some other varieties as well. A friend and I have 20 more seedlings that are looking to be grafted.

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I have a tree but scions won't be ready for a few months as tree is holding fruit now

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: May 07, 2020, 03:52:15 PM »
My grafts this year did really well also, but last week's heat wave fried my Kahalu'u blooms (every single one) and some of my new grafts as well.  >:(

I really like buddy tape. Works really well, and I just fold pieces to hold the graft union in place. The wood grows through it within a year and doesn't have any trouble.

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