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Fair enough. But I'm still interested in the quality of the fruit so far.

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Thats intersting. Can you describe the fruit quality? Is the fruit worth propagating more trees? Another late season mango could be a good thing. Im sure several people on this forum would be interested in another quality late season mango.

How has the fruit production been with all your pruning?
I had about 12 to 16 all on the lower third of the tree, three years ago I shocked the tree when I cut back to about here. The only reason this tree is alive is that it is late, I have one last mango ripening now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brahm Kai Meu
« on: September 13, 2015, 06:14:09 AM »
Nope. Mid season

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Can't wait!💩 😎

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is it with Angie mango???
« on: July 30, 2015, 07:40:24 AM »
I picked my last two Angie's this past weekend. My July angies have been terrific.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Considering replacing Angie mango
« on: July 18, 2015, 07:02:25 PM »
And tasting for a replacement begins...thanks to squams excellent mail order service, I was able to obtain a Maha Chanok, Venus and Fairchild to taste. First to ripen for tasting - the Maha Chanok...well the Angie has just had its death sentence I think! I let my husband have the first taste, and he made a hilarious face and proclaimed  "holy moly that's the sweetest mango I've ever tasted! Starts kind of coconutty and tart and then explodes with sweetness!" - I was most amused watching him. What did I think? One of the best mangos I've ever had! Very complex flavor, incredible sweetness near the skin, a good balance of sweet and subacid, flesh was firm and smooth with no fiber or mushiness - just outstanding! Not sure I taste cola syrup exactly, but do understand the comparison. There was absolutely no resinous or bitter flavor.  I thought the cut skin had a slightly piney scent, but there was no pine in the flavor. There is a distinctive scent to the fruit overall not unpleasant, fruity with a hint of earthiness, hard to pin down, and mostly stood out to me as smelling different than it tasted. Here's a pic of the fruit



And the inside

That is one ugly MC!  Thankfully it was tasty.


Can't see how either of the other varieties I have yet to taste will be able to top this! I think I've found a winner for my palate! If anyone would be willing to provide me with budwood, please send me a pm.







That is one ugly MC!  Thankfully it was tasty.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: July 13, 2015, 09:50:47 AM »
I've had both ends of the spectrum on several varieties this year. The early coco cream and angie are two. Early season was bland later season have been very good to outstanding.

Glad to see others having success. Interesting about the bloom time potentially impacting flavor. My trees actually seemed to bloom a bit late this year tho - must be the cooler temps in central FL. One of the most interesting things is that perhaps this is just one of those polarizing varieties where some really like them, and others don't. A critter got a low hanging one yesterday - maybe that means flavor is improving? Previously, critters would steer clear of this variety. Holding out for the later fruits to ripen being better...
 

I think there's more to it than just being a "polarizing" variety as some are getting washed-out flavor and lack of sweetness while others are getting an intensely flavorful mango.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Considering replacing Angie mango
« on: July 12, 2015, 02:31:41 PM »
I spray all year long, sometimes nutritional, sometimes copper/sulfur/ Plant Doctor . The first year it set fruit, I didn't spray fungicide and it set a heavy crop that i removed at about golfball size to promote vegetative growth.

It is indeed a marathon:) jc, do your tree set well without spraying? Mine sets zero fruit without spraying, which is another of the reasons it is on the bubble. I don't enjoy the task of spraying...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Considering replacing Angie mango
« on: July 11, 2015, 03:20:13 PM »
Remember, this hobby is a marathon not a sprint...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: July 11, 2015, 03:11:54 PM »
I don't know what to say to the disappointed Angie growers but my late season crop has bee pretty damn great. I have no disease issues and the fruit are clean and full flavored.








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Considering replacing Angie mango
« on: July 10, 2015, 11:23:26 AM »
Tasted even better than it looked.

Later season Angie




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 1st maha off my tree
« on: July 01, 2015, 11:32:37 AM »
My first of two MC crops started ripening this past week. Happy to say they are much more complex in flavor and aroma than last year.

Some claim to not detect aroma in the ripe MC. I am every bit the opposite. I can smell ripening fruit/sap as I get close to my tree. The sap from the fruit has the strongest aroma but the aroma of the flowers, crushed new leaves, and ripe skin all have the same aroma but to a lesser intensity. To ME, the aroma is similar to acetone or other ketone organic compounds. I like the smell of acetone and other ketones.

As I scrape the MC flesh from the skin with my teeth, I get more ketone impression in the flavor.  I dont get much of that flavor from the flesh as it gets closer to the seed. Once again, to ME, I can detect lesser amounts of the fruity ketone smell in other mango sap just much less intense. 

Its that fruity ketone aroma/flavor that I find so intriguing.  I detect it in other intense fruit like the Sweet Tart too.

I can't say I find a cola syrup flavor in mangoes. 



Coca Cola volatiles include  eugenol, coumarin, linalool 1,8-cineole,  and others.

Some of these components are shared in some mango varieties.

I have had an interest for some time, in what components make one variety taste like it has coconut, peach,  lemon etc.    also what makes one variety more susceptible to fruit flies and another more resistant.

what has surprised me, is how much difference there is between mango varieties,  its amazing.

If anyone is interested in looking into this,  here is the best reference I have found online:  explains each of the components in mango, and what the aroma / flavor is:
http://ietd.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/2445/10/10_chapter3.pdf

Components of Maha and Nam Doc Mai,   sadly the lactones are not listed here,   which I suspect MC is high in.
http://www.ifrj.upm.edu.my/19%20%2804%29%202012/22%20IFRJ%2019%20%2804%29%202012%20Laohaprasit%20%28024%29.pdf


Tropicdude,

Thanks for the fascinating information! Scientific, biochemically based "mango reviews" - no wine tasting b.s., just good old fashioned Likens-Nickerson
Simultaneous distillation-extraction (LNSDE) and Gas Chromatography Mass Spectrometry (GC/MS) data ;)

The ZINC-family and the Maha Chanok must both contain similar volatile compounds. And the Maha may have a different aroma compound in addition to the classics.

I also was fascinated to read in the second link Keow Savoy mango is eaten with with fish sauce.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: June 29, 2015, 01:31:44 PM »
Had a few more nubbins / Danny DeVito Angies and they have all been outstanding. I have a full sized Schwarzenegger Angie about a day or two away from optimum ripeness. Keeping my fingers crossed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: June 24, 2015, 04:17:10 PM »
LMFAO!!!!!

you call them nubbins? we always called them "Danny Devitos"

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: June 24, 2015, 04:09:16 PM »
The nubbins were from a late bloom. I have about six nubbins total. I also have about 10 fruit that will make it to full maturity from that late bloom.  Either way, the nubbins were outstanding.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Angie Is Not a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: June 24, 2015, 10:14:04 AM »
Ate some egg size Angies yesterday and they were out-freaking-standing!  My first crop in May were bland and unremarkable.  If these under developed fruit are representative of my next crop of fully developed fruit then it's top tier in my book.

Note: the early crop filled out well and softened up but but dropped before any significant color break. This later crop is blushing and starting to break color and the fruit are still rock hard and securely fastened to the stem. All the egg sized  under developed fruit have colored up very nicely before dropping or separating from the stem.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 1st maha off my tree
« on: June 14, 2015, 03:05:39 PM »
Harry, is that when you find the flavor and aroma profiles to be the most complex?  I'm discovering that some fruit eaten at the firmness that you describe is much more complex and pleasing. 

Yes, sexy indeed....in a mango sort of way.  Definitely don't wait for softness.  The slightest give to thumb pressure at the stem end is about as soft as you should let it get.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Angie Is Not a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: June 13, 2015, 06:10:38 PM »
My early ones have been exactly the same. I have a second and third crop to go. But as the season has progressed they have gotten much better. My early Coconut Creams were the same way, lacked sugars and intensity.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A New Maha Chanok Convert
« on: June 12, 2015, 06:30:58 PM »
When the concept of eating MC mangos at different stages of ripeness came up I found it interesting.

This year is only my third year of harvesting mangos but realy only my first year with enough fruit to taste at different stages of ripeness. So I've experimented this season.

Primary I've eaten Dot, Val Carrie, Carrie, Rosigold, Brahm Kai Mea, Angie, and a couple of Sweet Tarts. Maha C and the rest are not ready yet.

I have decided that I prefer some of these fruit at full color but still more firm. For instance the Dot, Sweet Tart, and Val Carrie are much more complex in flavor when they are fully colored but still firmer flesh. The complexity at this stage is mind blowing. When I let them get softer and more golden / orange, the sugars overwhelm the complex flavors and i taste ultra rich and sweet mango.  They're still terrific BUT they lack that "Holy $#!T"  factor.

My 2 pennies.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A New Maha Chanok Convert
« on: June 08, 2015, 08:22:05 PM »
Correction 36 fruits. Planted as a very small 3 gal in Fall 2012. About 8' tall now. Grows very well, 4-6 flushes per year.

The bags and .177 cal pellets help keep the rodents from the fruit. The bags also catch the fruit if I don't pick it before it drops.





Last year  was my first harvest/taste and I thought it was missing something. The aroma was amazing but it never carried through in the taste. I'm hoping this year's crop, 40+ fruit, will have that full flavor.  I have an Excalibur tree.


Wow.. 40+ fruit your second fruit year?!?!?!  Great.  Can you post pictures of your tree?




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A New Maha Chanok Convert
« on: June 08, 2015, 02:26:25 PM »
Sure, i will this evening.

Last year  was my first harvest/taste and I thought it was missing something. The aroma was amazing but it never carried through in the taste. I'm hoping this year's crop, 40+ fruit, will have that full flavor.  I have an Excalibur tree.

Wow.. 40+ fruit your second fruit year?!?!?!  Great.  Can you post pictures of your tree?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A New Maha Chanok Convert
« on: June 08, 2015, 10:22:00 AM »
Last year  was my first harvest/taste and I thought it was missing something. The aroma was amazing but it never carried through in the taste. I'm hoping this year's crop, 40+ fruit, will have that full flavor.  I have an Excalibur tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tasting 6/5/2015
« on: June 07, 2015, 12:13:35 AM »
In this case, I knew the answer before I asked it, but trial prep never hurts.

Harry, can we bring fruit to the tasting table?  I'm sure i dont have anything different, I'm just curious how fruits grown along the coast in Martin County compare to those grown in western Broward.

Are you seriously asking if you can bring more fruit to the table?  LOL.......you know it is a more the merrier rule.  Bring it on!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tasting 6/5/2015
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:03:10 PM »
Harry, can we bring fruit to the tasting table?  I'm sure i dont have anything different, I'm just curious how fruits grown along the coast in Martin County compare to those grown in western Broward.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kensington Pride Mango
« on: June 04, 2015, 05:41:36 AM »
Here in Florida, selected seedlings are named something other than the parent's name.  Otherwise we would have dozens of versions of Haden. The land from down should consider a similar approach instead of calling everything KP. The current method  of calling every  seedling mango KP is quite absurd.

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