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I really don't like the stuff in a tray, ate a small amount and the smell just made me feel ill. I really like it canned in syrup though, you get all the flavour and none of the garbage smell. I think fresh off the tree is likely a lot nicer, I'm guessing that the smell is possibly partly decomposed fruit as my 'fresh' in plastic (same as yours) smelt like rotting fruit / garbage. The canned one has no smell of that, even if you wash all the syrup off and break it in half. I'd like to taste it one day fresh, as in properly fresh off the tree so am growing a few different types, so fingers crossed in 2-3 years, as for now canned jackfruit is fine.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Haskap
« on: July 30, 2017, 04:27:34 PM »
Just an idea but you could always container grow some berries that need a moderate chill and then bring them into a house with air conditioning for a few weeks. Obviously no good for berries that need it really really cold, but would work for something that would make do with 12-15C to chill of you have a small room you could put it in with the ac on full blast. Another way would be to modify a freezer thermostat from -18c to around -2C so the freezer doesn't get super cold and then just sling them
In that with a small led grow light for a month or so.
The freezer idea would probably be the cheapest as you can pickup a cheap chest freezer for next to nothing and they are a lot cheaper to run constantly than air conditioning. Should work fine for strawberries or small blueberry bushes.
Commercial companies pretty much do the same thing but on a vastly larger scale.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: co2 death chamber
« on: July 06, 2017, 11:20:27 AM »
Nitrogen dioxide aka hippy crack would be way kinder, they would go out in a head buzz opposed to co2 which triggers the body's 'I'm choking to death, I need air' response. Nitrous oxide you just get light headed then pass out as it replaces the oxygen you breath in and doesn't give any type of choking response.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee flower or just stem ?
« on: July 05, 2017, 04:49:13 AM »
I'm just experimenting at the moment as it's currently too hot here most of the time to keep it under the magic 20 degrees anyway, so may have to wait until later in the year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee flower or just stem ?
« on: July 04, 2017, 04:03:34 AM »
I'm in the northern but they are being grown under 24 hour grow lights and heating so the seasons don't exactly match the actual seasons. Iv heard they are more likely to flower if it's cooler though , so Iv tried leaving all the windows open at night time to simulate a colder day.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Lychee flower or just stem ?
« on: July 03, 2017, 05:27:10 PM »
Iv got a Mauritius lychee and it's been throwing out new leaf growth for a month or so and seems quite happy, I noticed these on it today and I'm not sure what they are. Is this the beginning of flower pannicles or just more branches growing ?.







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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone grow black goji berry?
« on: June 24, 2017, 03:40:54 PM »
I grow them here in the UK, I didnt get any fruit from it last year, it flowered though, im hoping to get some this year though as its got lots of flowers on it and the bush is huge. I just bought the plant from the supermarket here in the UK.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pomelo strange leaves.
« on: June 21, 2017, 04:05:30 AM »
Thanks I will move them all outside for now then. The grapefruit also has it very very slightly, on the other hand the mandarin is loving it in there but I think they like it a bit warmer anyway.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pomelo strange leaves.
« on: June 19, 2017, 07:53:45 PM »
From what Iv read about that the plant goes down hill, this plang hadn't gone downhill, it's just stayed the same. It's been on a plane and plane holds are like 7degrees c so wasn't sure if it's heat related, as a  few leaves fell off the first week, since then none others have fell and that was about 3 weeks ago now.

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Citrus General Discussion / Pomelo strange leaves.
« on: June 19, 2017, 06:36:03 PM »
So I bought this pomelo and it's been like this since I got it about 2-3 weeks ago. Bear in mind it came on a plane from Italy to the U.K. So I wasn't sure if this was cold damage from the plane ?. It came in a poly bag pot so I re potted it into dedicated citrus soil and it's been in a greenhouse at about 20-55c so not sure if it's too hot for it it of its better outside ?, as it's been 33c this week outside.
All the other citrus in there (mandarin, satsuma and pomegranate ) is doing fine in there. The pomelo hasn't got any worse than when it arrived, it's not yet sprouted any new growth either yet. I have it some citrus fertiliser yesterday and have been watering the same as the other citrus. So not sure if it's just yet to be established yet and show new growth or what's up with it. It doesn't appear to be getting any worse, it did drop a few leaves when it first arrived but hasn't got any worse.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya seeds floating
« on: June 18, 2017, 04:44:57 PM »
The way I find best to get them to germinate is take a blade and very carefully cut into the seed where the round hole is at the end, then you can either run the knife down the seam or just split the shell in half (not the insides, they must stay intact and not damaged). I do this under a microscope as its easier to see what im doing. Iv tried putting seeds prepared like this into damp kitchen roll and the shelled ones germinate in 1-2 weeks instead of 4-6 weeks. Its quite useful too as you can spot the rotten ones as soon s you open them.

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'well we have some success !, its been red hot here the last few weeks and the seed I had just sat in a tray in the greenhouse, with no cover over them etc have started to sprout. At the moment the leaves are only the size of pinheads, so not out of the woods yet, but at least they are growing now !. The ones I have in a propagator indoors and also the others I have in a propagator under a grow light have not germinated yet, so looks like the most successful method is just in a greenhouse in the blazing sun and nothing else.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citrus in the Pacific Northwest
« on: June 18, 2017, 04:08:33 PM »
I dont know the guy, its just a youtube channel from a UK grower, it was just to show what sort of citrus can be grown outdoors in similar climate.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citrus in the Pacific Northwest
« on: June 13, 2017, 05:24:23 PM »
We have a similar climate here in the UK, I think it equates to zone 8b-9a mostly where I live. This guy here is growing citrus outdoors and on the few days we do get a frost just uses a tarp and a work light or heater to keep it warm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGqulT2ZBHk

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I can't even find anywhere selling the yellow type. Too many is fine, il have some for trading and eBay then, because tropicals are quite rare in the uk and restricted to tropical greenhouse growers you can get a decent price for a lot iOS things.

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That would be interesting to see if your six month old ones germinate as that would rule out age if they do. I planted 3 batches last week so we'll see how they get on in 2 weeks or so as Iv got some in the greenhouse and others under 24 hour grow lights. Some are sat on the surface and others under it so hopefully something grows. Iv got one jujube sprouting, 3 cherimoyas, 5 key lime, loads of purple passion fruit, loads of papaya, and 4 ruby supreme guava , one Jack fruit and a million other tropicals, so growing stuff is ok, this seems to be my nemesis  ha ha.

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Ah ok, so there are some seeds that will grow from dried seeds then, Iv got mine in about 4 different conditions to see if any of them actually work, so far nothing though.

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Iv tried growing them wrapped in tissue paper then wrapped again in Saran Wrap / cling film and then put in a heated propagator and still nothing. I'm growing cheramoya and various other tropical trees so will have things to trade once they are a bit bigger.

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Can anyone ship the fruit or a seedling internationally ?. Iv tried germinating the seeds from several places on ebay and none of them ever germinate.

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Hi, I have some Muntingia calabura / Jamaican Cherry seeds and am having a nightmare trying to germinate them. I have bought 2 different lots of seeds off ebay from two different parts of the world. So far to try and get them to germinate I have tried :

Putting them in a damp piece of toilet roll, wrapping in plastic and putting in a heated propagator
Putting in the soil  in pots in a unheated propagator in a greenhouse
Putting them under a grow lamp in a unheated propagator in a room that is generally 20-25c most of the time with grow light on 247
Putting them in a pot just under the soil sat under a grow lamp turned on 247 in a room 20-24c

None of the above work, so im wondering whether dried seeds are even viable for Muntingia calabura ?. As everything I have read they seem to sow the fruit and seed directly into the soil for the best result. Getting hold of fresh fruit in the UK is impossible from what I have found though.

I have found plenty of places in Australia, USA that sell the live trees but dont ship internationally.

I have  fruiting mango tree, a lychee and a avocado in the same 20-24c grow light area and they are all growing just fine, and will be transplanted to a tropical greenhouse we are building on a farm with 7 metre head height. Its all going to be heated for free by the waste heat from my brothers wood chip heating / wood kiln business that runs 247 365 days a year, so heating isnt going to be a problem in the long run, it will be like the tropics in there.

I have successfully germinated several types of guava, key lime, sugar apple, cheramoya, melon etc but Muntingia calabura is a nightmare.

The issue I have is getting the damn things to germinate in the first place, once they are growing we will have a perfect home for it, but getting hold of a seedling or seeds that actually sprout is proving very difficult.

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