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I did a quick search on this topic and may be I used the wrong key words to search it here but I was wondering if any of you had done bud grafting two different flower type avocado trees to promote fruit production. I have Lula and Brodgon  avocado trees and my Lula has some nice swelling buds that I would like to graft to the Brodgon. Has anyone seen a positive result for this? What are the negatives? It is recommended to plant different flower type avocados to encourage pollination of the fruits. Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Whats blooming?
« on: February 08, 2019, 05:35:07 AM »

Beautiful trees! What varieties if you don't mind me asking?

The low temp average also increases after February 9 every year on average so generally speaking things begin to warm up in Central Florida around mid February. Of course until that Polar Vortex comes out of nowhere and reaches the south.

Yes im still following all the exciting success stories of all of us in Zone 9B. Someone mentioned Zills coconut cream mango and I agree that particular tree was toast last year and died fairly quickly. Others didn't do well because of poor soil conditions and myself doing a few dumb mistakes like ground planting middle of December. I learned from those mistakes and now I have most of all my mango trees blooming. The largest is my Valencia Pride and that tree was toasted when we reached 24-25 degrees last February. It shed all its leaves but it bounced back with joy once March came around. I will let it fruit (hopefully) then go in to tipping mode after harvest. If I don't get blooms by  March I will start tipping earlier so I can re shape the canopy.

On another note it's forecasted to drop to 36 degrees on Tuesday morning and 38 Wed. but I will not panic to much as I know my trees can survive a chill of 24 degrees.

Here are some numbers for the freezes of 2018 around Orlando. In 2018 we began to hit mid 80's consistently after Fri 2/9 Actual Temp 85 /61 Hist. Avg. 72/53

Here are 2018 notable freezes in Orlando only a couple. The one in January 2018 toasted everyone's mangoes, but some made it through especially the ones of Haden parentage leading me and others as well to believe the Haden is a slightly more cold tolerable tree. It may be because of it's rapid root development and strong fast vigor. That's fine with me :) it keeps my pruning skills in check.

Fri 1/5
Actual Temp
55 /32
Hist. Avg.

Thu 1/18
Actual Temp
54 /28
Hist. Avg.


8 days in to Winter, and we are talking about Spring is near. A bunch of my mango trees are blooming.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Temperature difference under patio?
« on: December 10, 2018, 03:38:30 PM »
I would say depending if it's covered with an aluminum awning or something, a bit warmer in the patio but not enough to even matter because if it's covered the plants will not get sunlight. Your question depends on many factors but we are probably talking one or 2 degrees and you are better off lighting a bbq grill with charcoal around 12am and opening the grill vents to allow the wind to keep the charcoal burning slowly until the temps bounce back. Just place the grill with a cover of course. I have 4 small grills I use this way and never fails.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Banana Tree leaf tips yellowing
« on: December 10, 2018, 03:01:00 PM »

Try the " Hamlin " variety, those usually have a very strong citrus smell and are deliciously juicy and very sweet. However, the citrus industry is really hurting because of the Asian Citrus Psyllid and the Citrus Greening Disease.

Freezing weather, however, damages the fruit at 26 to 30 degrees.

Leaf freezing begins below 20. You should be fine. I removed my Hamlins because of the Asian Citrus Psyllid/ ACP bug or Citrus Greening from the ACP. I actually lost all my citrus to this horrible insect. Hope they come out with a variety that is resistant to it soon because I love sweet oranges from the yard.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Fruit ID?
« on: November 21, 2018, 04:13:27 PM »
Store bought stuff... pass. However look similar to a Russell Avocado.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Advice for an Orlando Beginner
« on: November 03, 2018, 08:48:53 AM »
How do you like the taste of the Fairchild Mango? Is it productive for you? Thanks.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Advice for an Orlando Beginner
« on: November 02, 2018, 11:10:22 AM »
Bad time of year to be planting anything tropical in 9B. I got mango trees going in East CFL near Bithlo. Been growing and experimenting with the zone. Here is my advice from experience so far.. Look around and you will find mango trees abound. You just have to pay attention because they are usually in backyards. Unlike tropical south fl they grow them in front of the homes so mango trees may not be visible but they're around. Do not grow them to sell them because that will be a loss for you. I have a mix bag of container mango and ground planted mango. Pickering, great choice if not the best choice for productivity in a container. Get a large container and leave it there for it's lifetime. Lychees especially sweetheart/sweet sensation doing excellent and actually like the cooler nights. Bananas love Orlando, look around. Ice Cream Bananas and some FHIA 3 Sweetheart and others (love me some bananas from backyard and plantains). Avocado Brodgen and Lula, just fine (hard to establish at first though). Citrus anykind not recommended because of the ACP/ Citrus Greening (research that). Star Fruit a thumbs up. Papayas thumbs up they grow fast. I suggest if you want to go mango go with an aggressive type that will grow quick and establish quick like a Valencia Pride but make sure you know how to prune that thing because it can quickly grow to 10ft a year. My VP was completely bald after a freeze in Feb 2018 and now 9 months later it has fully recovered with tons of new growth and im looking forward for mangos in 2019. Just give it a shot! gives you more reasons to plant and experiment. Good luck neighbor!   

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which 3 avocados for Orlando?
« on: October 25, 2018, 04:15:57 PM »
So, after reading this thread does anyone have more information on Stewart Avos?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Medium Height Banana Plants
« on: September 23, 2018, 05:11:17 PM »
Greetings, im looking to expand my banana plant collection. Wondering if any of the members here can recommend a banana plant variety that is productive and has a nice size amount of hands that grows about 6ft-10ft max and is some what cold tolerant.

Much better tasting indeed they are...

Very fast grower. Good for colder climate zones like 9B. Last winter the VP I had lost all of its foliage and had dead wood cut down. Now it is already back to around 6ft and still pushing. I would say 8 to 10 ft per year is good estimate. MUST keep it controlled by pruning right after fruit harvest. Prune three to four flushes down after fruit harvest. I would remove it but I like the size of the mango. Its huge with enough to share. I have a big family.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Coconut palms in Sarasota, FL
« on: July 11, 2018, 04:19:49 PM »
Yup, Coastal areas by Sarasota all the way up to St Petersburg even by Clearwater have Cocos. Not inland. On the East Merrit Island is about as far North. Nothing in Central INLAND Fl.

You had me thinking my wife met every criteria of perfection until "never gets mad nor complains". Any event, I can agree with the mangos this year not living up to the hype. Fruit Punch definitely was on that list for me as well. It has been raining gallons around Florida so that is definitely a factor. Central down South to Redland. I travel a bit to both areas and I agree. Cooler past winter provided earlier bumper crops which exposed them to the early summer rains... May be those Rosigold trees got the last laugh this year..

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Super Sweet C" Pineapple
« on: July 01, 2018, 10:27:08 AM »
same as the ones with "sugarloaf" label with out the Kaui?

is that the same sugarloaf that is just simply labled as "sugarloaf" by local nurseries?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: July 01, 2018, 09:46:39 AM »
I tasted a Gary from Walter that I believe was the BEST one so far. 0-15 was also up there..

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Super Sweet C" Pineapple
« on: July 01, 2018, 08:34:38 AM »
Got it at a local nursery called Lukas. They had a table upfront with them. I got one that had a fruit growing already so I will update you if I can get the fruit to mature and ripen (fingers crossed). I like the fact that it does not have the spiney edged leaves on it making it safer or easier to plant in bunches. I called the Nursery that originally sells them and they simply stated that it was edible and a new variety and that was about it. I guess not much on it either, kind of bummed about that.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: June 29, 2018, 11:42:26 AM »
Question... Is there anything that I can do to give my avo trees more energy to produce more foliage or strengthen their roots and branches? Not too concerned about the fruit production as they're only 7 gallon container trees, planted on ground. May be more Nitrogen? Trees are healthy just sort of slow growing as of now... May be that's typically for the first year then they take off??

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