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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2018 Lychee Bloom
« on: January 30, 2018, 03:34:50 AM »
Most blooms on my lychee and mango (LZ) were frozen at 30F. So much for zone 10a. 
Clearwater, FL
Clearwater, FL
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I'm assuming I won't be getting any fruit until I see female flowers appearing and cross-pollinating with male flowers. So however many more years that may be, what happens in the meantime to the male flowers? Excuse my ignorance, but an internet search didn't provide any clues. How big do they grow? Do they eventually die?
And for the poster who asked, I'm about 6-8 miles inland from the coast in Los Angeles. It gets as cold as about 60 degrees at night in the summer and down to 50 in the winter.
It's not necessarily years. Usually female will appear about a year after male flowers. But it could longer in a cool SoCal. Although you are in a pretty sweet spot. Away from cool coastal areas and not too far inland for a tree to be stressed by cold.
Meanwhile if you are craving freh jackfruit, they have piles of it in a Little Saigon. Few months ago I purchased a whole 23 pounder for $13 only.
I havent done it but can't see why it wouldnt work. The nice thing about grow lamps and growing things indoors is you can control temperatures and light intensity. Should work out better than hot august sun IMO.Yep, anything better than outside >90 degree. I have 0% success (out of 4 grafts, scion/branch-green/green) so far in August.
In CA we have Navel. We buy Texan when we want sweet ones. They have seeds.I don't think the sweet orange (I mentioned) was Texan because of it has much more juice. Texas orange as I remember is very dry. Certainly it's not navel (no "navel" on the bottom), probably a sweet variety of Valencia. Very sweet even the skin has some green color.
Most of my citrus trees has some kind of greening or something cause young leave to curl up (not leaf miner). I heard from a nursery owner that there will not be any cure (greening) for the next 5-7 years until they develop a new root stock. I notice that my younger trees are more susceptible than the older citrus tree, still better not plant any until something new come out.Citrus greening doesn't cause leaf curl on new leaves. Usually that is leaf minor. Citrus greening has definitely
Something is eating my mango trees older leaves, not sure it's "little leaf notcher weevil" or something else.
hurt the industry, but what most of the remaining groves are doing is increasing the fertilizer. The citrus industry
use to average 350 boxes of citrus per acre. Now with the increase of fertilizer and other chemicals the groves are
trying to use, the breakeven point is 200 boxes per acre. I know someone who manages a smaller grove and he averaged
260 boxes per acre last year and he complains the owner won't pay for what he wants to really do. The juice prices are up and
the remaining groves who are willing to put out the costs are making a profit. If you look around some groves are adding trees
now. I think what the nursery was saying is if an actual cure or new root stock were to happen it would take at least 7 years
to prove the results. If citrus greening never happened the actual juice market would be flooded and the growers would be
complaining about no money because of over supply. What a fun business the citrus industry has been with canker and now
greening.
What does this mean to the backyard grower. Not much really. Who needs 350+ oranges per tree? I have several tangerines and they are
loaded with fruit. I am sure they have greening, I am surrounded by groves and one is a rocks throw away from my house. I have a kishu
right now loaded with fruit probably 200 or more. I have two ponkans with several fruit even though I cut them back severely
and was trying to give them the year off. I have way more tangerines then I will ever eat and will end up giving allot away.
You may have to double or triple the fertilizer but the backyard grower should be able to produce more then enough.
Trung
Ok I'm confused now lol . Either way I still want the tree. Gilbert told me that Na Dai and Vietnamese were one and the same. He also said that Na Dai was a firm fleshed fruit. Can anyone else confirm this ? I was going to buy a tree of each to add to my collection but guess I won't have to now. My regular green sugar apple and my kampong mauve are both holding fruit from hand pollination. First sugar apple fruits for me. I'm kinda excited lol.
William
Considering the flavor of MF is not what I would call very good, finding a final tree should be easy. With that being said, yes, Sweet Tart is far superior in taste to MF (I am not going to comment on any mango having a cola taste)."Sweet Tart is far superior in taste to MF" please elaborate, MF tastes very good to me (but too fibrous for me). ST is spicier? sweeter? more complex...?