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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba and Mycorrhizal Association
« on: October 25, 2017, 12:36:16 AM »
I am growing Plinia Inflata the Giant Mulchi organically.  I got seeds from Oscar At Fruit Lovers Nursery and they all germinated.  They seem to grow fairly fast.  Unfortunately I haven’t been able to get any first hand knowledge about the taste, texture, etc.  I do have the red Jaboticaba but they don’t excite me as much as the Giant Mulchi.
Yea, it seems they're from the same Family as Jabo. But I'm guessing the taste and commercial value probably not as spectacular as Jaboticaba, which can be noticed by the hype surrounding this fruit (Jabo) in the whole forum. Hell, if they could bear fruits in 3-4 years from seeds as it is described, I'm totally sold. Good yield due to cauliflory, nice taste (haven't tasted one tho), wide applications (wine, jam, etc).

In Bali Island, Indonesia there are vineyards and wineries, even though grapes don't thrive as good in the tropics. A Jaboticaba vineyard would be more in line with nature rather than against them I suppose.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Myrtaceae Thread
« on: October 24, 2017, 11:42:33 AM »
Hello all,

I want to start a thread about the aforementioned Family. Right now, I'm considering to do an experiment in inoculation of tree seeds with mycorrhizal gourmet mushroom. The mushroom in question forms mycorrhizal association with Tristaniopsis merguensis from Myrtaceae family.

Right now, I'm interested in getting a bunch of red Jaboticaba seeds which aren't available in my country. The reason I'm choosing jaboticaba is due to high yield, product quality and the fast bearing nature of Vermelha (if I'm not wrong) variety. But I'm open to other fruit trees from the aforementioned Family.

Anyway, here's the climate profile of the place where I live so that you guys can give me suggestions on Red Jaboticaba or other Myrtaceae trees : https://www.accuweather.com/en/id/serpong/202292/weather-forecast/202292

Thank you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba and Mycorrhizal Association
« on: October 24, 2017, 10:36:44 AM »
Thank you for the link. Have you grown Jaboticaba?? I might use some advice for the climate around my place! https://www.accuweather.com/en/id/serpong/202292/weather-forecast/202292
Btw, I'm interested in red Jaboticaba (they call it Vermelha if I'm not wrong, the fast bearing 3 years fruiting type). If you happen to know, will they thrive in my climate?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Jaboticaba and Mycorrhizal Association
« on: October 23, 2017, 02:11:15 AM »
Does anyone here have an info about the plant Jaboticaba (Plinia) and its mycorrhizal association?? There are different types of mycorrhizae, namely endomycorrhizae, ectomycorrhizae, orchid mycorrhizae, etc. For anyone who happens to research tropical fruit trees intensively, may you give me the enlightenment on the type of mycorrhizal symbiont the Jaboticaba have?? Thank you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: About the Inga genus
« on: October 19, 2017, 12:33:00 AM »
Thank you all for the replies you have provided! Really informative and educational. Those videos about Agenda Gotsch are indeed really well made. Based on what Oscar said I assume that regular red soil will do, since that what I thought at first after reading that Inga grows in poor soil. Precisely, that one quality of the genus Inga fits perfectly for Agenda Gotsch's agenda  ::)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: About the Inga genus
« on: October 17, 2017, 10:57:52 PM »
Thanks for the replies!

Btw, what's a good substrate recipe for the nursery stage?? Would straight red soil do??

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sale: Red Jaboticaba seeds
« on: October 17, 2017, 10:50:43 PM »
Do they fruit faster than other Jabo cultivars? Like 2 or 3 years from seed?? Thank you

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / About the Inga genus
« on: October 17, 2017, 01:46:18 PM »
Hi,

I'm new to this forum, and the reason I'm joining this forum aside from being in a tropical country is because I'm wondering about the genus Inga for these few days.

Apparently, this tree is being utilized to combat slash and burn farming which is being done in tropical rainforest areas of Africa and South America. The sad news also it's being done also in Borneo, but probably illegal logging is the bigger threat over there over our precious rainforest.

You guys can search "Inga Alley Farming" for more information and get lots of result. In summary, farmers are expected to plant rows of Inga shrub or tree and plant starch or cash crops in the "alleys" formed between rows of Inga trees. The merit of the method is that Inga is fast growing, and as such, farmers can prune them to form mulch around their crops and when they're getting big again, they will act as shade to prevent weeds and protect the crops from excessive sunlight (probably). Also being in the family of Fabaceae, they're nitrogen fixing legumes. I can also confirm, living in tropical country, legumes, any kind, be it weed, shrub or tree, all of them thrive in our climate.

The question is, why doesn't these rainforest savers advocating Inga Alley Cropping mention the economic bonus of harvesting ice cream beans?? Are they don't taste that particularly "good"??

Btw the reason Inga got in my mind recently is because I have been studying mycology for a few months. I'm doing trial and error of trying to isolate wild mushroom into culture, and there's one specific ectomycorrhizae from Thailand which is known to form connection with various family of trees including Fabaceae and that got me thinking about Inga, they're fast growing and they yield fruits. If I don't bring this up here, where should I?  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sale: Red Jaboticaba seeds
« on: October 17, 2017, 01:08:40 PM »
Is this the same as hybrid fast bearing jaboticaba (Myciaria cauliflora x) being sold at fruitlovers.com?? Cause the alias said so, "red jaboticaba"

http://www.fruitlovers.com/fruittreedescriptions.html#jaboticaba

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: October 17, 2017, 01:02:58 PM »
Hello all,

You can call me Albert. I live in Java Island, Indonesia where pretty much the fruits we're discussing here will thrive especially if they like full blown heat and humidity. For those in the middle which likes mild frost, I think not so much.

Currently interested in the Inga and Myrciaria or Plinia genus.

Albert

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