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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB - Chrysophyllum roxburghii
« on: April 13, 2018, 08:08:11 AM »
Your the best.....let me know when available.


Cheers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ilama seeds have not sprouted
« on: April 03, 2018, 06:12:07 AM »
Generally with alot of these seeds, i.e. Annonaceae, the germination period or breaking of dormancy can be somewhat annoying.  These are a few things I have tried in the past....one I don't recommend in doing.

1) Heat from below with a heat mat.

2) Place in the refrigerator for a period.

3) Pour hot water on the seeds already sown.

4) I have swallowed the seeds before basically mimicking a natural animals response and the seeds obviously go through my stomach acids  (I DON'T RECOMMEND THIS)

5) Try putting them in the refrigerator take them out, putting them in a hot warm area outside for a few weeks and then back in the refrigerator.

Some people believe in day lengths, amount of watering and other natural things that can sometimes break dormancy which I tend to agree with but with a fair bit of experience with a lot of Annonaceae species, not necessarily with Annona, but I think most of these species in this family really need to have germination begin as soon as they are from the fruit.  I got 10 seeds of Annona diversifolia and within 3 weeks had 2 germinate, the others never did guessing that there was never a well developed embryo in some of the seeds in the first place. The worst I find is Annona crassiflora and Annona purpurea, yet others may find them easy.

I have always found it hard to understand how a lot of these seeds would survive in nature with a dormancy period with insect infestation and other variables. Generally you would think out of the fruit lets get going, but with some species this just isn't the case.  My biggest problem is nematodes getting into the seeds, I use to think they were rotting but that wasn't the case the embryo was being devoured by nematodes in masses.

I think maybe just patience is the key, which unfortunately I and probably others don't have.

The other thing is to find out what the weather's like where they are endemic to, i.e. some Africa species have fires run through the bush / forests so soaking the seeds in smokey water or pouring hot water on them can mimic this and break dormancy.

I hope this kinda helps a bit but maybe see how they are in another month or so.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ilama seeds have not sprouted
« on: April 03, 2018, 03:19:31 AM »
Quick question did you check the seeds....like do they look ok?

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Guys

I have bought plants from Stevo before and vouch for the absolute great quality in plants and the best tasting fruit species he sells, like Abiu Z4 and Jackfruit (Amber), plus I think it's probably the first time Annona diversifolia has really been offered in Australia in a plant form.

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Hi All

If anybody happens to have fresh seeds of Theobroma subinacanum or speciosum seeds PM please.

Cheers

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What you see when fruit sleuthing
« on: March 31, 2018, 10:29:31 AM »
That was the first time I tasted Matisia and no joke it was yummy in my tummy.

Taste is subjective and in the rich and varied tapestry of life Annonacae finds paludosa and matisia delicious and turns up his nose at durians. I'm with Stevo and John but if it weren't for different tastes we would all be sticking to apples, oranges and bananas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What you see when fruit sleuthing
« on: March 31, 2018, 10:28:01 AM »
Taste is very subjective.....its divine I will buy 20kg of them and the seeds are just like a passionfruit ;D


Did you try that Annona paludosa fruit?  I grew one tree from seed.  It fruited & died back -- not sure if it is coming back or dead yet.  The fruit on mine seemed to be nearly all seeds with no noticeable pulp.  Other than the fact it was quite small & might be of value for a dwarfing rootstock, I saw no redeeming features to it -- unless it was some fluke fruiting & is normally of better quality.

John

Hi John despite the fact that our member Annonaceae really loves them they are not really a top quality fruit and are very seedy
however they would make an excellent rootstock due to the short growth habit

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Trying to fruit Theobroma grandiflorum
« on: March 30, 2018, 05:33:21 AM »
Mikey baby.....I wish at my place there was trees laden with fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What you see when fruit sleuthing
« on: March 30, 2018, 04:29:47 AM »
Those Matisia fruits taste divine.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Trying to fruit Theobroma grandiflorum
« on: March 29, 2018, 05:05:59 AM »
Hi All

I have 2 x Theobroma grandiflorum, both probably 5-6 metres high....planted probably 1 metre apart from each other.  The tree flower constantly when in season, but I have never once received a fruit.  Some people tell me 1 tree is enough and have seen them fruit with no other species around, and then some say you need 2 trees.  I must state however these 2 trees were originally marcotts so may actually be marcotts from the same tree originally.

Can someone give some advice....the trees are in partial light / shade...but due to their height should get sufficient light.

Also I have Theobroma bicolor....they are probably 3 to 4 metres high...how long till they flower, any ideas?

Theobroma gileri is very slow growing but flowers constantly also.

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Hi All

Ex Zimbabwe the following is now fresh and ready to ship, please note due to the size of the seed the normal USD$9 registered post won't apply with these, so postage worldwide is USD$21 registered as it has to go as a small parcel ex Zimbabwe:

Berchemia discolor (RARE) edible & sweet USD$3 per seed (Probably never heard about)

Artabotrys brachypetalus edible USD$2.75 per seed

Vangueria infausta edible USD$3 per seed

Diospyros sp edible USD$3 per seed....waiting on pics of this....as its a newie.

Annona muricata edible USD$1 per seed (we are listing this cheap, but that being said the species fruit is somewhat different to a normal Annona muricata....can they cross with endemic species??????)

PM if interested.

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After Palologrower PM all sold

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / For trade - Fresh Ross Sapote seeds
« on: March 28, 2018, 06:31:16 AM »
Hi All

I have fresh from the fruit Ross Sapote seeds for trade.

PM if interested.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB - Eugenia klotzschiana seeds
« on: March 27, 2018, 07:47:45 AM »
Anybody selling Eugenia klotzschiana seeds at present?

Pm if available.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: wanted : Mammea americana
« on: March 27, 2018, 07:43:03 AM »
I think plants can be posted direct to Thailand as I have done it a few times with no issues.....ask Luke if he can post small plants to you?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: GDSeeds
« on: March 26, 2018, 07:42:49 AM »
PM sent

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True.....was these ANNONA EXSUCCA grown in California?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB - Chrysophyllum roxburghii
« on: March 22, 2018, 08:25:26 AM »
Satha thanks for the info, can you get seeds of this Chrysophyllum by chance?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rats Started Eating My Papayas
« on: March 19, 2018, 07:12:18 PM »
I feel for you on this subject.  Check out Uromys caudimaculatus (can grow 3 times the size of a black rat) and or Hydromys chrysogaster ( there is a family using my fountain at night )  They eat my seeds and cut down the small trees from ground level for bedding material.  I use wire over seed pots. Generally catch them in cages with peanut butter and relocate.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Chrysophyllum roxburghii
« on: March 19, 2018, 06:36:23 AM »
Any Indian members out there growing this?

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Have a few fresh seeds of Diospyros kaki for sale USD$1.50 each, Garcinia humilis USD$2.00 each (great tasting), Polyalthia suberosa (edible berry species - great for bonsai or keeping small) USD$2.00 each....postage USD$9, minimum 5 seeds.

PM if interested.

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Not many left now Mikey.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB - Chrysophyllum roxburghii
« on: March 18, 2018, 04:47:20 PM »
Does anybody grow Chrysophyllum roxburghii, whats the taste like? I am keen on some for a friend.

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I can take some pics....other than that check out google.  Please note it can grow to 5 metres.

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Hi All

Have a few Davidsonia pruriens seeds for trade. After any Annonaceae species seeds, i.e. Annona or cauliflorous species.

Found a heap of further ripe fruits so they are USD$2.50 each fresh as. Postage depends on country but normally USD$9. Minimum order 5 seeds.

Pm if interested.

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